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In reply to the discussion: Former prosecutor: "Should Trump be stripped of office he gained by fraud?" [View all]Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Ultimately, supposedly more people voted for Trump in three states (in small margin) to shift the electoral college vote to him. There were definitely a very large percentage of people who did not vote.
Where I find problem with your argument is that you basically saying that the election was completely clean and Trump just won. You seem to be saying that because you and other people had already chosen your side and were not swayed by anything, that other voters are exactly like you and just "made the wrong choice" on purpose.
What Mueller's investigation appears to be showing more and more clearly is that Trump coordinated with Russian operatives tied to the government, who undertook a campaign to suppress voter turnout, feed false information to people for the purpose of dividing them and influencing them to vote for stein, or stay home. In addition, the fraud you write about was Trump paying money to stop verifiable negative information from coming out in the closing days of the election, which could have had a significant effect on said election.
You and I know that Clinton was the absolute best candidate in the general election. I am sure we both saw from the very beginning that Trump was unfit and would be a disaster. I would also assume that you and I spend a lot of time thinking about, reading about, and discussing politics. The majority of the electorate are not like us. A great many of them get their information from Facebook and other social media, or from their friends. We know that most of the social media sites were rampant with false information. We know that there has been a more than 30 year effort to paint Hillary Clinton as a bad person and that it wasn't going to take a Herculean effort to keep those negative stories in the media.
Trump was elected for a variety of factors including voter suppression by GOP lead state administrations, the culmination of decades of fake stories implying Clinton's dishonesty which were ratcheted up by Trump and fed into millions and millions of social media pages by coordinated effort of Russia and the Trump campaign. Comey's decision to "re-open" the investigation into her emails just before the election.
To say that Trump was elected simply because "disinterested democratic voters" is just not accurate.