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In reply to the discussion: Our system of government is breaking [View all]Garrett78
(10,721 posts)8. This has been true for a long time, but it's most certainly getting worse.
John Dingell is exactly right.
Democratic prospects for gaining and maintaining control of the Senate (by any margin much less a substantial one) are not good, even though we're clearly the majority.
The electoral college, a vestige of slavery, has long made a mockery of the principle of one-person, one-vote.
And gerrymandering (which is made easier by the concentration of liberals in urban areas) has got to stop. Neither side should do it. I realize that elections have consequences and shit like we're seeing in Wisconsin could have been prevented, but that shit shouldn't even be legal. Democrats won 53% of the vote for Wisconsin House seats but Republicans will control 64% of those seats. That's outrageous. It's not much better in MI, NC and PA.
Wisconsin State House
popular vote: 53-45
seats won: 36-64
Pennsylvania State House
popular vote: 53-45
seats won: 46-54
Michigan State House
popular vote: 52-47
seats won: 47-53
North Carolina State House
popular vote: 50-47
seats won: 46-54
There's no way a constitutional amendment is going to happen, precisely because of this tyranny of the minority system we have. But there are other measures that can be taken. And it's good to be talking more and more about the need for broad systemic change, as that's how seeds get planted in the public consciousness. The hope is that one day, maybe after all of us are long dead, those seeds will take root.
Democratic prospects for gaining and maintaining control of the Senate (by any margin much less a substantial one) are not good, even though we're clearly the majority.
The electoral college, a vestige of slavery, has long made a mockery of the principle of one-person, one-vote.
And gerrymandering (which is made easier by the concentration of liberals in urban areas) has got to stop. Neither side should do it. I realize that elections have consequences and shit like we're seeing in Wisconsin could have been prevented, but that shit shouldn't even be legal. Democrats won 53% of the vote for Wisconsin House seats but Republicans will control 64% of those seats. That's outrageous. It's not much better in MI, NC and PA.
Wisconsin State House
popular vote: 53-45
seats won: 36-64
Pennsylvania State House
popular vote: 53-45
seats won: 46-54
Michigan State House
popular vote: 52-47
seats won: 47-53
North Carolina State House
popular vote: 50-47
seats won: 46-54
There's no way a constitutional amendment is going to happen, precisely because of this tyranny of the minority system we have. But there are other measures that can be taken. And it's good to be talking more and more about the need for broad systemic change, as that's how seeds get planted in the public consciousness. The hope is that one day, maybe after all of us are long dead, those seeds will take root.
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You might be right but every generation says this at some point and we have only had one Civil War.
Squinch
Dec 2018
#5
Governors and other elected officials DO NOT the HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE COUNTRY.
Haggis for Breakfast
Dec 2018
#20
We had slave holder presidents; we had lawless Andrew Jackson; we had a Great Depression
delisen
Dec 2018
#27
An amendment is not possible precisely because of this tyranny of the minority system.
Garrett78
Dec 2018
#14
It's actually significantly stronger then it is in most countries. The assault on the system of
OnDoutside
Dec 2018
#22