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anobserver2

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87. Read this chapter in the book "Conning Harvard" by Julie Zauzmer
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 07:40 AM
Dec 2018

I hope my response to you does not make it seem that I think it's OK for the Senate not to have demanded
proof of a claimed Yale degree from a potential CIA Director, because I think it is NOT OK if the Senate did not ask -
but with all the buddy-buddy pals in Washington DC on both side of the political aisle, it takes a deeper understanding of WHY it is important to demand something like a certified academic transcript from a career politician/war hero/etc who is now poised to take on a position like CIA Director.

There is a really good book written by the former student editor of Harvard's newspaper, concerning a young man, Adam Wheeler, who was criminally prosecuted in Massachusetts for faking his way into Harvard via forgeries, etc.
The book is called "Conning Harvard" --

https://www.amazon.com/Conning-Harvard-Story-Artist-League-ebook/dp/B00MJD770W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544441145&sr=8-1&keywords=conning+harvard

He had to return scholarship money he fraudulently received, and he is prohibited by the court from ever mentioning Harvard on his resume, even though he did attend Harvard classes and did receive grades from those classes after being admitted on the basis of forged documents.

IMO, this is a rather sad story, because the young man was actually a good student already going to a good college when he decided to transfer by forged documents into Harvard. It is an amazing tale of the work he put into creatin the forgeries he did, and a very revealing look at how Harvard can be so easily duped.

In one of the last chapters of the book, the author explains why she believes it is important to catch people who
fake college degrees, and she writes about a number of people who faked degrees - and crimes they later committed.

That particular chapter is one I think should be required reading of any member of Congress who has the power to consider and approve potential appointments.


Because in my opinion, GH Bush not only faked a college degree, but that was just the beginning of what would be a crime spree he went on against the American public. In my opinion, he was without question the most corrupt CIA director, the most corrupt VP, and the most corrupt president in US history, and none will ever surpass him.

But to understand what crimes I believe he later committed (financial) and how he committed those crimes, against the American People, by misusing his CIA/VP/and Presidential powers, and abusing his power to deceive others, in order to benefit himself and his family and others financially, you first have to understand the nature of the person you are dealing with. Understanding he faked a college degree is an important start.

I hope you might consider borrowing the above book from your local library and reading the chapter I described - although the entire book is well written and really does read like a "potboiler." It's a real page-turner.


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Thank you DU anobserver2 Dec 2018 #1
And that only touches the many scandals of that family mithnanthy Dec 2018 #4
Neil Bush's Banking Crimes Have Been Swept Under the Rug dlk Dec 2018 #30
Am frankly getting of these posts. secondwind Dec 2018 #5
I know! Even the MSM has moved on! nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #23
Freeedom of Thought anobserver2 Dec 2018 #65
Here are links I will add when I have more time anobserver2 Dec 2018 #66
Source for this? Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #2
Yes, I'd be interested in the source for this, as well. MousePlayingDaffodil Dec 2018 #3
And people will believe it because someone made it an op. Tipperary Dec 2018 #6
Very. nt Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #8
There is none Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #12
Of course it is... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #18
The OP is also extremely sexist obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #24
Indeed. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #29
Reminds me of the kooky "where was he the day JFK got shot" posts. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #50
Couldn't have said it better myself Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #51
THere is none p-- it's false obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #22
... shanny Dec 2018 #76
Thanks; I corrected it anobserver2 Dec 2018 #78
Well, here's another piece of info for someone to research. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #7
Sounds like research you could do on your own. stopbush Dec 2018 #9
Because google is my best source, Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #10
OR...your dad was being creative. stopbush Dec 2018 #11
It's not even a CT. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #13
The question is: what rumors are worthy of pursuit? stopbush Dec 2018 #15
There you go. Nothing is gained if you don't ask the question. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #16
I hated that Columbo "one more thing" schtick. stopbush Dec 2018 #17
Proving that different biographers can describe totally different people. McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #14
"spoiled his kids"? shanny Dec 2018 #77
Im surprised that the CIA missed the Yale fraud fescuerescue Dec 2018 #19
Because it isn't true n/t obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #25
Well ;) fescuerescue Dec 2018 #26
Sorry! obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #36
Maybe you do not really know how a CIA Director is hired anobserver2 Dec 2018 #69
no thats not it. fescuerescue Dec 2018 #70
Well, 3 points I would say you should perhaps consider anobserver2 Dec 2018 #71
The 3rd point - practical matters: Hard to "un-do" what an elected official has done anobserver2 Dec 2018 #73
Transparency in elections - more can be done anobserver2 Dec 2018 #74
From July 2015: "Exclusive: Why Doesn't Jeb Want to Talk About Lehman Bros?" anobserver2 Dec 2018 #79
From the Daily Beast: "Jeb Bush's Big Lehman Brothers Problem" anobserver2 Dec 2018 #80
About " legacy " admissions to private universities in the US anobserver2 Dec 2018 #83
Economics of Education Review: The impact of legacy status ... anobserver2 Dec 2018 #84
Re Senate anobserver2 Dec 2018 #86
Read this chapter in the book "Conning Harvard" by Julie Zauzmer anobserver2 Dec 2018 #87
Another good read: Carl Bernstein's 1977 Rolling Stone article on CIA and the Media and Senate anobserver2 Dec 2018 #88
Motive: Can't go into the private sector and risk being exposed; so - cash in at the public sector anobserver2 Dec 2018 #89
A Dec 2015 DU thread on Jeb Bush and his college career - and how media reports it anobserver2 Dec 2018 #90
See what is happening now with this ACLU lawsuit against CIA anobserver2 Dec 2018 #91
Maybe it is considered "free speech" by the CIA anobserver2 Jan 2019 #92
Journalists should help educate voters, too anobserver2 Jan 2019 #93
In fact, journalists should also quote FERPA federal law when reporting politicians' alleged degrees anobserver2 Jan 2019 #95
From the National Ethics Association anobserver2 Jan 2019 #96
What happened to me anobserver2 Jan 2019 #94
I'd like to see the Supreme Court discuss other questions, too, since: elections have consequences anobserver2 Jan 2019 #97
I will remember him most for denying that atheists are deserving of American citizenship Goodheart Dec 2018 #20
"... a girl's college, Smith..." obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #21
I changed it to "women's" anobserver2 Dec 2018 #27
You should delete this OP. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #32
this op is ridiculous obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #35
Three things obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #33
Yes. Tipperary Dec 2018 #40
You should delete this. tammywammy Dec 2018 #39
You have to address the specific degree program - economics anobserver2 Dec 2018 #42
And yet you have absolutely no proof. tammywammy Dec 2018 #48
Any determined student can get a BA in 3 years. hexola Dec 2018 #67
Thank you! ellie Dec 2018 #28
It's not true. The OP is full of it... nt Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #31
the OP is not true obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #34
Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #37
You're recommending an OP that is patently false? Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #56
Feel free to refute it. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #58
Here's my refutation. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #59
The first sentence: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #60
Added WAY after he made the OP. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #61
What's the proof of your assertion rusty fender Dec 2018 #38
I think he did not. Tipperary Dec 2018 #41
What's the proof of your assertion anobserver2 Dec 2018 #43
You made the claim. It's up to you to prove that Bush didn't graduate. Kaleva Dec 2018 #45
Ever hear of analysis or opinion? anobserver2 Dec 2018 #46
Which economists did you talk to? How do we know they are "real"? Kaleva Dec 2018 #47
Sources? Alsteen Dec 2018 #54
How about giving the names of these real people you claim to have interviewed. WillowTree Dec 2018 #62
I never asserted that he graduated rusty fender Dec 2018 #53
Thank you to all those who recommended my opinion piece here anobserver2 Dec 2018 #44
Your self aggrandizement is appalling. stopbush Dec 2018 #52
You ARE the lies. Delete your OP. nt Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #55
This has really damaged your credibility with a lot of DUers. Just read the read the responses. WillowTree Dec 2018 #63
Reads like an unsourced crockpot full of hooey to me BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #49
This is made up disinformation Raine Dec 2018 #57
Thanks again to all those who recommended my opinion piece here anobserver2 Dec 2018 #64
This is not an opinion piece! hexola Dec 2018 #68
Welcome to ignore Blecht Dec 2018 #72
lol, my favorite part of this thread is OP's "woe is me" shtick. tritsofme Dec 2018 #75
Yale says he graduated in 1948. former9thward Dec 2018 #81
From The Journal of Business Ethics 2004: "Small lies, big trouble..." anobserver2 Dec 2018 #82
This all reminds me of "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen anobserver2 Dec 2018 #85
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