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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. Could a push to immediate impeachment before
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 07:50 AM
Dec 2018

it could succeed possibly be coming from a preemptive plot to derail the Democratic house investigations being prepared against not just Trump but various very powerful Republicans?

If you want to suspect something, suspect that. I told you after another of your posts, Bait, that one of your notions was standard Republican/Russian "tell a lie often enough and they'll believe it" rhetoric. They've been soaking the nation in that very phrase.

May I ask, have you read or heard somewhere that the Democratic leadership may be plotting betrayal by refusing to impeach? That the Republicans aren't the only ones betraying our nation, that the Democratic Party is complicit? If that's not just your getting carried away on your own, I'd like to check that out.

Itm, maybe imagine over half the nation outraged what was seen as a corrupt partisan attempt to remove the president in the senate (and that would fail right now). It's not only Republicans who disbelieve Trump-Russia -- there's still much suspicious doubt about how real all this is on the left also. Now imagine much of the nation believing that the Democratic investigations of others in their leadership were just as corrupt and phony as the attempt to remove the president.

All this would of course be carefully organized by the right, with plentiful media support. None of these powerful oconservative leaderse intend to go to prison, they'd burn the nation down first. And, critically, this kind of giant misstep would be likely to help them regain the power they just lost and more in 2020. House, senate, presidency, states.

We MUST have the support of a majority of the people to proceed. Trump trying to nuke NK or invade Mexico would also do, because that would create that support in short order afterward.

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Yes. We're in uncharted territory here, but he defrauded the people. panader0 Dec 2018 #1
Through impeachment, yes. Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2018 #2
Hard to believe we have Democrats on this site trying to argue away the House's Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #4
Exactly!!! Makes me very suspicious. By saying "take it Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #7
I'll tell you another thing that makes me suspicious. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #8
Perfect example of that was the immediate belief Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #10
Good example. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #11
It seems like Scarsdale Dec 2018 #13
That is so true. If trump rule has taught politicians Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #18
DiFi fell for the "Gentleman's Agreement" scam that Flake engineered with Grassley. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #47
Yup, suspected it the second they all were a-ok /w further fbi probe..instant flip flop- Phil Mudd Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #57
Could a push to immediate impeachment before Hortensis Dec 2018 #54
Everyone seems to miss a very important moving piece of this puzzle. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #63
Meanwhile ReTHUGs pass laws to remove power from newly elected Democratic governors malaise Dec 2018 #20
I don't think we have to be dirty like they are but Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #30
A unified message would be wonderful. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #65
Most here who state reservations about impeachment KPN Dec 2018 #15
Don't you think the Mueller Report will be ready by the time the Dems take the House? Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #23
Yes BB !!! Start getting ready! It's the way Comey Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #31
. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #32
Sorry, I don't believe there's a responsibility to impeach at this time. elocs Dec 2018 #21
Why do people assume that Mueller's Report isn't going to be ready by the time the Dems take Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #24
Why would you assume it will be ready? elocs Dec 2018 #28
Things are moving quickly. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #29
Why do you assume it will be ready by then? onenote Dec 2018 #34
If we continue at this rate with the Mueller disclosures Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #35
And, someone was saying it may be incremental... Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #45
Exactly. Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #64
That is the saddest thing ever. If we all.. especially Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #67
Bait, NO ONE is trying to do that. We have a duty Hortensis Dec 2018 #53
trump got elected not by fraud, but by disintereste democratic voters who either voted for stein or beachbum bob Dec 2018 #3
Yes, think we are also talking about fraud in the Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #6
I disagree. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #17
Strikes me as a wash. If more people voted for HRC Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #37
Barbara McQuade makes some good points there! FM123 Dec 2018 #5
THE GOP CONTROLS THE SENATE ROB-ROX Dec 2018 #9
If you are right...let them stand up, in public, and Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #38
We have to ask that question? KPN Dec 2018 #12
Yes. AllyCat Dec 2018 #14
Yes, but the obvious question is how? D23MIURG23 Dec 2018 #16
Let the cockroaches be accountable now!! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #39
Yes! Civilian tRump committed these crimes and should be held to those standards. ffr Dec 2018 #19
Our Constitution (remember that?) only provides 1 way to remove a president from office, elocs Dec 2018 #22
Sure. Know all that. They tried twice with Andrew Johnson Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #40
My stand is with the Constitution of the United States. elocs Dec 2018 #50
Understand. Not sure why you are saying it though. Who is suggesting otherwise. Nt Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #55
There are lots of posts on DU that claim we need to get rid of Trump elocs Dec 2018 #56
threat of Impeachment led Nixon to remove himself by resigning delisen Dec 2018 #52
The winner of a poker tournament or beauty pageant would lose their winnings, and a new winner... Garrett78 Dec 2018 #25
yes and branded with a T for traitor samnsara Dec 2018 #26
Impeachment's the mechanism for that. TDale313 Dec 2018 #27
Yup, lots of buts and ifs. So what. Wrong Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #41
Oh, I agree. TDale313 Dec 2018 #43
of course Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #33
SHOULD he? DFW Dec 2018 #36
There is no mechanism to "strip him from office" Calista241 Dec 2018 #42
Yes. TDale313 Dec 2018 #44
That is simply not so. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #48
That is a change in policy that will have to be made by the Attorney General Calista241 Dec 2018 #60
What does it say about the law if he isn't? ck4829 Dec 2018 #46
Who does the stripping? DFW Dec 2018 #49
There's got to be a groundswell - protests - demands to Reps and Senators. But, you must Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #59
Stripped immediately! democratisphere Dec 2018 #51
Yes. In It to Win It Dec 2018 #58
to answer your question bdamomma Dec 2018 #61
Hell yes. He obtained it by fraud. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #62
Fully support impeachment here BUT timing IS important. Keeping in mind bluestarone Dec 2018 #66
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