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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. I disagree. It's BEING broken, and we're going to stop it.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 07:19 AM
Dec 2018

Huge difference. This nation won't fall while the Democratic Party stands.

I haven't read any of your other posts since you joined, but it sounds like you may be caught up in the current pervasive anxiety and may have already forgotten the recent huge messages sent by the elections of Obama twice and subsequently of our first female (Democratic) president, as well as -- just a month ago -- from the midterms!

It's helpful to realize just how strongly our government is still standing against over 3 decades years of attempts to corrupt and dismantle it by what the Republicans have become. They themselves are bringing an end to the era of conservative domination of government, and what they've done will be repaired, and our institutions strengthened against corruption, by good people acting on the same principles as those who came before us.

As for the changes in our nation itself in a time of massive change, they are huge and constantly ongoing, but that's not new. Meeting and managing to advance our wellbeing in the face of giant disrupting changes has been the story of our nation's entire existence. The industrial revolution began in England a quarter century before we declared independence. Planetary wellbeing has been advancing enormously ever since, but always bringing great anxiety due to change and uncertainly and definitely new problems we had to overcome well enough to continue. But we have been doing that.

These are scary times, but this big-picture pattern from the past right up to today is far too strong to just dismiss.

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I don't think it would be a civil war marylandblue Dec 2018 #1
you are probably right Guppy Dec 2018 #2
Probably like Yugoslavia. roamer65 Dec 2018 #18
It is corrupt.. CentralMass Dec 2018 #3
The actual system Guppy Dec 2018 #4
You might be right but every generation says this at some point and we have only had one Civil War. Squinch Dec 2018 #5
We have NEVER been where we are right now. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #7
I understand that. Of course this has never happened before. But we have had Squinch Dec 2018 #11
We have NEVER had a president like donald trump before. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #12
we have governors and other elected officials JI7 Dec 2018 #19
Governors and other elected officials DO NOT the HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE COUNTRY. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #20
Sigh. Yes, I understand we haven't. I never said we did. Squinch Dec 2018 #21
We had slave holder presidents; we had lawless Andrew Jackson; we had a Great Depression delisen Dec 2018 #27
nt bdamomma Dec 2018 #32
Andrew Jackson? zipplewrath Dec 2018 #36
Yes yes yes. You are absolutely correct. Maven Dec 2018 #6
This has been true for a long time, but it's most certainly getting worse. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #8
Michigan's Proposal 2 is now law. roamer65 Dec 2018 #17
I would like to see the alternative jberryhill Dec 2018 #9
An amendment is not possible precisely because of this tyranny of the minority system. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #14
Then please answer the two questions jberryhill Dec 2018 #29
There are many zipplewrath Dec 2018 #37
MAKE DC A STATE EndGOPPropaganda Dec 2018 #10
The fact that The District has not been granted statehood Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #13
Constitutional? jberryhill Dec 2018 #30
Democracy has been replaced with a capitaliistic plutocracy nt elmac Dec 2018 #15
NY and New England are more like Canadian provinces than American states. roamer65 Dec 2018 #16
It's actually significantly stronger then it is in most countries. The assault on the system of OnDoutside Dec 2018 #22
I disagree. It's BEING broken, and we're going to stop it. Hortensis Dec 2018 #23
The electoral college has been broken forever. Guppy Dec 2018 #24
Yes to all that. And not only that, but in 2016 Hortensis Dec 2018 #25
The electoral college Guppy Dec 2018 #26
Gotcha. Hortensis Dec 2018 #31
Thank you, Hortensis peggysue2 Dec 2018 #42
I think it's already broken. mnhtnbb Dec 2018 #28
We Dems need to stop standing down when corrupt actions happen. JudyM Dec 2018 #41
I am amazed at how resilient our form of government is delisen Dec 2018 #33
Really? Guppy Dec 2018 #34
compared to the Civil War or all the system shocks I listed? delisen Dec 2018 #35
Yes, I took tons of political science Guppy Dec 2018 #38
The frog in the water zipplewrath Dec 2018 #39
concise op and to the point. harumph Dec 2018 #40
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