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In reply to the discussion: For Those of Us with Aging Parents, [View all]pnwmom
(110,261 posts)121. No, the separate spend-down provisions do not require divorce.
https://www.elderlawanswers.com/medicaid-protections-for-the-healthy-spouse-12019
Example: If a couple has $100,000 in countable assets on the date the applicant enters a nursing home, he or she will be eligible for Medicaid once the couple's assets have been reduced to a combined figure of $52,000 -- $2,000 for the applicant and $50,000 for the community spouse.
Some states, however, are more generous toward the community spouse. In these states, the community spouse may keep up to $123,600 (in 2018), regardless of whether or not this represents half the couple's assets. For example, if the couple had $100,000 in countable assets on the "snapshot" date, the community spouse could keep the entire amount, instead of being limited to half.
The income of the community spouse is not counted in determining the Medicaid applicants eligibility. Only income in the applicants name is counted. Thus, even if the community spouse is still working and earning, say, $5,000 a month, she will not have to contribute to the cost of caring for her spouse in a nursing home if he is covered by Medicaid. In some states, however, if the community spouses income exceeds certain levels, he or she does have to make a monetary contribution towards the cost of the institutionalized spouses care. The community spouses income is not considered in determining eligibility, but there is a subsequent contribution requirement.
But what if most of the couple's income is in the name of the institutionalized spouse and the community spouse's income is not enough to live on? In such cases, the community spouse is entitled to some or all of the monthly income of the institutionalized spouse. How much the community spouse is entitled to depends on what the Medicaid agency determines to be a minimum income level for the community spouse. This figure, known as the minimum monthly maintenance needs allowance or MMMNA, is calculated for each community spouse according to a complicated formula based on his or her housing costs. The MMMNA may range from a low of $2,030 to a high of $3,090 a month (in 2018). If the community spouse's own income falls below his or her MMMNA, the shortfall is made up from the nursing home spouse's income.
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Example: If a couple has $100,000 in countable assets on the date the applicant enters a nursing home, he or she will be eligible for Medicaid once the couple's assets have been reduced to a combined figure of $52,000 -- $2,000 for the applicant and $50,000 for the community spouse.
Some states, however, are more generous toward the community spouse. In these states, the community spouse may keep up to $123,600 (in 2018), regardless of whether or not this represents half the couple's assets. For example, if the couple had $100,000 in countable assets on the "snapshot" date, the community spouse could keep the entire amount, instead of being limited to half.
The income of the community spouse is not counted in determining the Medicaid applicants eligibility. Only income in the applicants name is counted. Thus, even if the community spouse is still working and earning, say, $5,000 a month, she will not have to contribute to the cost of caring for her spouse in a nursing home if he is covered by Medicaid. In some states, however, if the community spouses income exceeds certain levels, he or she does have to make a monetary contribution towards the cost of the institutionalized spouses care. The community spouses income is not considered in determining eligibility, but there is a subsequent contribution requirement.
But what if most of the couple's income is in the name of the institutionalized spouse and the community spouse's income is not enough to live on? In such cases, the community spouse is entitled to some or all of the monthly income of the institutionalized spouse. How much the community spouse is entitled to depends on what the Medicaid agency determines to be a minimum income level for the community spouse. This figure, known as the minimum monthly maintenance needs allowance or MMMNA, is calculated for each community spouse according to a complicated formula based on his or her housing costs. The MMMNA may range from a low of $2,030 to a high of $3,090 a month (in 2018). If the community spouse's own income falls below his or her MMMNA, the shortfall is made up from the nursing home spouse's income.
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But you can only transition to Medicaid if you have spent down all the assets.
Grasswire2
Dec 2018
#92
Good point and thank you for mentioning this. I'll remember this in my planning. Thanks again. NT
SWBTATTReg
Dec 2018
#15
It's likely some siblings will never understand. Some by choice, ignorance (willful or otherwise)
Maru Kitteh
Dec 2018
#122
Thanks for your story. It is a difficult one, that as you say, a lot of us are dealing w/, ...
SWBTATTReg
Dec 2018
#14
It is not just our parents. This is what we will have to consider, at some point
question everything
Dec 2018
#26
Never heard of it. Where does one get it, how old do you have to be, and how expensive is it?
LisaL
Dec 2018
#82
Wow! 94! My dad passed away when I was 27. :( Loved the guy a lot, too. Still miss him.
C Moon
Dec 2018
#99
OMG do i relate!! add in: crazy siblings accusing me of slapping my 94 yr old dad..
samnsara
Dec 2018
#128