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(120,348 posts) Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:41 PM Aug 2012

Assange turned out to be a coward [View all]

The man who became world famous for his fight for freedom of expression would rather settle in a country where independent television stations are closed and critical journalists imprisoned, than allow himself to be questioned by Swedish police ...

What if Assange instead had backbone enough to get on a flight to Stockholm? The hearing, of course. It does not seem unbelievable that the investigation might then be thrown in the trash. Given that prosecutors had dropped it and taken it up again, the evidence certainly may not be optimal ...

The truth is that Julian Assange is talking shit about the reasons to escape the Swedish justice. He has proven to be a completely different person, than the heroic fighter for freedom he pretends to be.

Maybe he just could not manage his worldwide fame, and it turned him into a conspiracy theorist, of the sort that might as well spend his days brooding over why Obama refuses to recognize why Elvis lives, as wonder how he could get to Ecuador ...

Assange visade sig vara ett fegt kräk
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/oisincantwell/article15270151.ab

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Assange turned out to be a coward [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP

Are You Paid By The Word, The Post, Or The Opinion ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #1

ooh willy, +100000000000 xiamiam Aug 2012 #12

However... but he is being paid. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #21

Now, now, it's against DU rules to accuse other DUers of astroturfing... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #25

Bwahaahaa! Darlin'...you have done won my heart forever. Zorra Aug 2012 #44

Bring A Nickel, Tap Yo Feet... WillyT Aug 2012 #91

Love this! n/t Tess49 Aug 2012 #181

Gotta go with you on that one. Zalatix Aug 2012 #110

+ whatever is the most plus possible. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #119

lol Matariki Aug 2012 #135

Dude has averaged 22 posts a day for 8.5 years. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #201

Yeh, keep ignoring the possibility of his being sent to America. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #2

65,000+ posts????? joeybee12 Aug 2012 #3

You aren't interested in what the Swedes are saying in response to all the accusations struggle4progress Aug 2012 #29

I remember when the vast majority of U.S. citizens believed that Al Gore invented the internet. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #48

The point of view doesn't seem very rightwing to me: the author doesn't believe Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #51

It's more than "the author doesn't like Assange." Scootaloo Aug 2012 #101

Eeek! It's an attempt at persuasion! *hand-wringing* struggle4progress Aug 2012 #116

Very good, you identified the intent Scootaloo Aug 2012 #118

+1 progressoid Aug 2012 #209

Read the comments if you want to know what the Swedish people think I just did: sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #60

Thank you! For some reason, Google Translate wouldn't translate the comments for me. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #71

I found a good site. Some of them don't translate very well or not at all. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #73

The following Swedish-English dictionary was recommended to me eridani Aug 2012 #106

I keep wondering creeksneakers2 Aug 2012 #78

They can't. There are no requests from the US for extradition, yet. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #80

People are unaware the OP is a QUOTE, I guess Warpy Aug 2012 #79

You have to have done something extremely right to get that many high-level bastards against you. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #107

It is Swedish equivalent tama Aug 2012 #128

Assange is a Hero. Vox Moi Aug 2012 #4

A hero to some.... PragmaticLiberal Aug 2012 #49

He's done a tremendous amount of good for the world at incredible personal cost. 20score Aug 2012 #162

He who fights and runs away...etc n/t LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #5

Lives to fight another day! mazzarro Aug 2012 #108

Laughable Sweden's the coward, too cowardly to stand up to the US and issue a non extradition treaty riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #6

How do you "issue a non-extradition treaty"? TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #62

All Sweden has to do is say they won't allow Assange to be extradited to the U.S. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #140

And why should Sweden defy international law and piss off the US for... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #143

If Sweden was following its old precedents backscatter712 Aug 2012 #145

Assange is threatened with the death penalty now? And the prosecution is... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #148

There's that grand-jury investigation in the U.S. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #149

And when was that last used? Even Manning wasn't seriously threatened... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #153

Ira Einhorn. The prosecutor finally took death off the table, and the guy ran it up the flagpole MADem Aug 2012 #180

That's him. He did bounce around for 20 years before... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #182

He used the old "Say it forcefully enough, and people will believe you" schtick. MADem Aug 2012 #183

Is it defying international law when they refuse to extradite capital cases? EOTE Aug 2012 #197

Not true-- as long as there are no capital charges they are still... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #199

Please cite this law. EOTE Aug 2012 #203

I'll cite nothing-- I'm not a lawyer. But, this is not a law, it's... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #204

So you're pulling this out of your ass? EOTE Aug 2012 #205

Who's pulling what out of an ass? Not you, of course... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #206

I am not a fan of Assange but these attacks on him are becoming comical. grantcart Aug 2012 #7

I know - they're beyond absurd! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #36

we get that you despise him--is this latest screed for the newbies? niyad Aug 2012 #8

It's Swedish opinion. We know what Ecuador and the UK think. Let's hear from Sweden struggle4progress Aug 2012 #11

Let's hear from the women who claim they were NOT raped MNBrewer Aug 2012 #19

I give you the one and only interview they did....which weirdly enough is hard to find translated riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #31

Ooo, great link! You won't mind it I quote from it, I'm sure: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #35

Go nuts. I'm only interested in the women from the Assange case riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #37

I'm using your link, which indicates it's one of the women involved who is quoted there struggle4progress Aug 2012 #38

Yes, who states it wasn't rape. "Voluntary relations" is pretty explicit nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #41

So maybe Assange will be back out of the hands of the Swedish police soon after surrendering to them struggle4progress Aug 2012 #52

The situation at least one woman described is clearly rape by Swedish law. pnwmom Aug 2012 #113

Assange denies these allegations. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #172

Let him deny them in Sweden, where the allegations were made, and where he is wanted struggle4progress Aug 2012 #190

Sure he will, Sweden just has to give him an assurance they won't extradite him to the US. Simple nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #192

Funny that she didn't say anything like that when she invited him to stay with her sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #103

"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #198

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #30

Self-delete leveymg Aug 2012 #45

Damn. I may just have to guzzle down some mead and set sail for England struggle4progress Aug 2012 #57

"I would say go to hell, but you probably would not want to?" Do I have that translation right? MADem Aug 2012 #184

A bit more earthy than that. I apologize. leveymg Aug 2012 #185

It is Swedish opinion tama Aug 2012 #129

Whatever your thing is with Julian Assange is just down right creepy. What is Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Aug 2012 #28

Yeah.. sendero Aug 2012 #10

i pray they never get their hands on him..he deserves the right to do what he does xiamiam Aug 2012 #22

Do you ask those questions of DUers with far more posts? former9thward Aug 2012 #68

Most DUers with far more posts laundry_queen Aug 2012 #77

I don't get it either, I have been here over eight years, but lack the HUGE spam count Dragonfli Aug 2012 #85

I see people knocking posters for having just a few posts. former9thward Aug 2012 #195

I can multitask. nt laundry_queen Aug 2012 #202

I got many of those posts serving as a DU2 moderator: sometimes as moderator I'd have 200 posts/day struggle4progress Aug 2012 #87

And the rest you got by spammng Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #167

I think we know who the real coward is. And a non-thinker as well. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #13

What a strange post. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #14

This poster has been all over DU trying to tear this man down and Cleita Aug 2012 #18

He's been waging an amazingly persistent campaign. The posts keep coming! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #54

I asked him and he hasn't answered. n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #55

You really have it in for him. Cleita Aug 2012 #15

Who cares if Assange is courageous? Cicada Aug 2012 #16

Please show me on this doll where Julian Assange touched you Electric Monk Aug 2012 #17

Oh. My. Gawd!! Best laugh I've had all day riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #23

! graywarrior Aug 2012 #27

Genuinely LOL! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #33

This is a very deserving post. I'm waiting for an answer. Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #39

heh. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #109

Ahahahahahahaha Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #160

Heeheehee! Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author lordsummerisle Aug 2012 #24

Another article from the Swedish FOX News... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #26

If you read Swedish (and I do) Demeter Aug 2012 #32

All I've been getting is the Google Translate version of the article. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #34

Given the unkind stereotypes of Sweden circulated here by Assange supporters, I thought it fair struggle4progress Aug 2012 #117

Stereotypes, or facts? Demeter Aug 2012 #125

I suppose some people might regard it as a clarion call for fascism, if one wrote an article saying struggle4progress Aug 2012 #130

Not a good job then tama Aug 2012 #131

A view often suggested here at DU is that the Swedish courts are merely prostitutes struggle4progress Aug 2012 #141

Well tama Aug 2012 #147

seems the article only serves to reinforce those opinions.. frylock Aug 2012 #154

Contrary does not mean correct. progressoid Aug 2012 #210

Now you have just become obnoxious and irritating Marrah_G Aug 2012 #40

It's more fun to harangue him! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #42

as you wish struggle4progress Aug 2012 #63

Smear campaign FAIL. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #43

want to bet his flight would end up In Washington DC, NOT sweden lol nt msongs Aug 2012 #46

If by "coward" they mean a smart chess player, then I agree. It's a fraudulent case. Gregorian Aug 2012 #47

Retreating in the face of overwhelming force isn't cowardice, it's good strategy. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #53

Clear? tama Aug 2012 #134

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2012 #50

.. Cha Aug 2012 #67

A welcome confirmation, as always, that I am on the right side of the issue. nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #89

Why are you so overtly obsessed with Assange? It's bordering on surreal. Owl Aug 2012 #56

No shit, Owl. The OP is almost as obsessed with attacking him hifiguy Aug 2012 #61

I do wonder why the OP is so determined? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #64

Hero or not, Assange is unlikely to get a fair trial bhikkhu Aug 2012 #58

The people afraid of the truth Assange has exposed are cowards... nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #59

LEAVE JULIAN ALONE!!!! cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #65

.. Cha Aug 2012 #70

Well in the opinions of a large segment of the World's population, he is. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #75

It sure was thoughtful of Wikileaks to help the Belarusian government identify its opponents: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #124

Some of those articles are highly biased, ronnie624 Aug 2012 #138

If Wikileaks were running a little private intelligence service on the side, selling information struggle4progress Aug 2012 #142

Making those accusations is one thing, ronnie624 Aug 2012 #146

I gave you a link to a thread with multiple links in it, tending to support that ugly possibility struggle4progress Aug 2012 #156

I don't think 'progressive' means what you think it does. n/t ronnie624 Aug 2012 #105

Heh! Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #123

Oh yes, the Swedes, the ones who rolled over for the Nazis. Matilda Aug 2012 #66

Sweden managed to maintain it's neutrality during both world wars and during the cold war struggle4progress Aug 2012 #76

You Need To Get Out More, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #102

the 1% called Incitatus Aug 2012 #69

I'd speculate as to how they're expressing their gratitude... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #72

That's okay. Incitatus Aug 2012 #74

Without people to do the work for them Hydra Aug 2012 #81

For some reason I was reminded of this: Incitatus Aug 2012 #82

Pathetic. I hope they don't pay you much. Marr Aug 2012 #83

Fellow DU citizen, I must remind you that accusing people of being paid shills is a no-no. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #86

I have to agree. Bonobo Aug 2012 #88

Exactly. It would be terrible form to hurl such insults, even when they're well-deserved. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #92

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #115

my understanding is that changed with DU3. uncle ray Aug 2012 #93

LOL. 'Drown our voices out?' RZM Aug 2012 #94

Some people, who fancy themselves free-thinkers, cannot stand dissent struggle4progress Aug 2012 #97

Dissent or not, it's bizarre faux-persecution RZM Aug 2012 #99

What if it is true? We should just shut up? Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #120

According to the rules... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #126

If you don't like the opinion, you can complain to the Swedish newspaper that published it struggle4progress Aug 2012 #90

Just to let you know: You give away your bias so badly... Bonobo Aug 2012 #95

It's thoughtful of you to say so, I suppose, but I'm not hiding my views struggle4progress Aug 2012 #96

Less a question of "views", more a question of "state of mind". nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #98

it's not a "swedish" view, it's a "right-wing swedish" view. it's aftonbladt. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #114

Aftonbladet is one of the older newspapers in Sweden. The history of the newspaper struggle4progress Aug 2012 #133

i know it belongs to a 'labor group'. i'm judging it on its behavior -- tabloid sensationalism, HiPointDem Aug 2012 #139

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #84

I wish I could unrec. nt. polly7 Aug 2012 #100

The US National Defense Authorization Act is not a conspiracy theory. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #104

I wouldn't be surprised if they sent a drone after Assange. Zalatix Aug 2012 #112

Walking into a U.S. trap would be stupidity. cali Aug 2012 #111

Should there be a Romney Attorney General Next year.. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #121

K&R OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #122

He's nuts treestar Aug 2012 #127

And your qualifications to make this diagnosis are? hobbit709 Aug 2012 #132

Common sense treestar Aug 2012 #158

LOL tama Aug 2012 #166

What charges? Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #168

You don't get out much in the real world do you. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #171

Asking the US authorities to "bring it on" Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #163

Look what happens when very powerful people are exposed KansDem Aug 2012 #136

FAIL for transparency of intent Matariki Aug 2012 #137

Fail. Alduin Aug 2012 #144

Assange offered to be questioned by Swedish authorities in the UK yurbud Aug 2012 #150

So what? Assange is wanted for a Swedish criminal process, at a stage that the UK courts have agreed struggle4progress Aug 2012 #155

if you can't win on the issues, turn to petty gossip and personal attacks yurbud Aug 2012 #151

For example: accusing the Swedish women in this case of being extreme feminists or CIA agents. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #178

so...Great Britain suddenly got religion on sex crimes and decided questioning suspects yurbud Aug 2012 #207

Perhaps I missed a point here or there.... djean111 Aug 2012 #152

Disagree. Unrec. Taverner Aug 2012 #157

Are you serious? Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #159

Wow! I wasn't a fan of unrec's. But in this case... This post is deserving of one. 20score Aug 2012 #161

"Santa Assange's country house Christmas" has sad photos showing how Julian has suffered struggle4progress Aug 2012 #179

I think that it is wonderful that kind and compassionate well to do folks, Zorra Aug 2012 #193

Doesn't Julian's suffering just bring tears to your eyes? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #194

Wow. That's like, really, really, sad. Zorra Aug 2012 #196

Yep. You won't see him w/o his shirt...the yellow stripe shows. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #164

The Yellow Stripe? HangOnKids Aug 2012 #200

Another Swedish opinion tama Aug 2012 #165

That ends any possibility of you receiving further attention from me. I hope others also drop you. sibelian Aug 2012 #169

Since many here jump up and down, accusing the Swedish prosecutors of prostituting struggle4progress Aug 2012 #174

Assange is indeed a coward Zorro Aug 2012 #170

^^^This is NOT me!^^^ I am Zorra. With an "A" on the end. The female counterpart of the Zorra Aug 2012 #191

No. Assange is a hero, standing up to Big Brother, War Inc. Octafish Aug 2012 #175

I agree. Overseas Aug 2012 #187

Again? brush Aug 2012 #176

Quelle horreur! An anti-Assange article from a Swedish paper! I fear I may swoon! struggle4progress Aug 2012 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #186

silly H2O Man Aug 2012 #188

To fear extradition to a country that has tossed out habeas corpus is not cowardly. It's sensible. Overseas Aug 2012 #189

He'd be extradited to the US and sent to GITMO or worse if he went to Sweden. Assange is no fool. Erose999 Aug 2012 #208