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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. We shouldn't mistake media plays for more than they are.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:41 AM
Dec 2018

By far most of the big stuff is happening out of our sight.

Right now, sure, impeachment has zero Republican senate support. Big surprise with 95% of their voters against impeachment? The Republicans are already fighting ferociously for control of the nation in 2020, no way they would cave at this point.

There's so much going on that we don't know about. We do know that a bunch of top Republicans took money from Russia legally (they wrote the law making it legal) Will this alone make them fight to the (nation's) death to protect Trump as a way to protect themselves, does it create opportunity for a deal they really can't afford to pass up, or...?



The news about Butina made me think of this article from last summer. The press talk very little about the religious right in politics. They should, of course, but they're understandably afraid to take Big RW Religion on.



How the National Prayer Breakfast offers foreign lobbyists a chance to “pay to play”
Journalist and author Jeff Sharlet on the National Prayer Breakfast, Maria Butina, and the group that calls itself “the Family.”

The New York Times broke a story last week about the degree to which the National Prayer Breakfast has become a “pay to play” event. At the gathering, foreign dignitaries and lobbyists pay thousands of dollars for access to the event itself and — perhaps more importantly — the week of meetings and events surrounding the breakfast. According to the Times’ Kenneth P. Vogel and Elizabeth Dias, “the annual event has become an international influence-peddling bazaar, where foreign dignitaries, religious leaders, diplomats and lobbyists jockey for access to the highest reaches of American power.” ...

At the 2016 and 2017 breakfasts, Butina allegedly met with unnamed American officials and “very influential” Russians, and seems to have successfully attempted to broker meetings between figures in these groups.

As evidenced by the Times report, something more insidious than prayer has been understood to be taking place at the breakfast, says Jeffrey Sharlet, an associate professor of literary journalism at Dartmouth College.

In his 2009 book, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, Sharlet chronicled the influence of a Christian organization known publicly as “the Fellowship” (and internally as “the Family”), the founders and administrators of the National Prayer Breakfast. The Family — of which Vice President Mike Pence and Attorney General Jeff Sessions are members — is an intensely powerful organization, whose specific vision of Jesus as the ideal “strongman” governs their political theology and who have found, in strongman-sympathetic President Trump, an ideal vessel for their beliefs. ...

Sharlet says the Family often uses the National Prayer Breakfast, and the events surrounding it, as a backdoor recruiting and diplomacy tool for between lobbyists and foreign governments that organizers feel share its “strongman” approach, without formal government oversight.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/18/17586516/jeff-sharlet-maria-butrina-national-prayer-breakfast-the-family

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It's time to do the right thing. It's their constitutional duty. onecaliberal Dec 2018 #1
Totally agree with this. ooky Dec 2018 #4
Everyone knew Clinton's was a sham. Trump is destroying the country and it will be seen differently. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #25
There is a lot more to come on the Mueller front. I am starting to see that the special counsel onecaliberal Dec 2018 #28
I wonder how the Mueller report that we all speak about will come out. I heard recently that he Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #38
Before we start impeachment we need to step back and let the implosion happen from his fear kimbutgar Dec 2018 #2
Let it ride for a while SCantiGOP Dec 2018 #3
"40% of 2018 voters said they want Donald Trump impeached, Hortensis Dec 2018 #37
So you think it's more likely that gop and Russians would be supporting NO Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #39
I think they'd love a premature, failed attempt, Laura. Hortensis Dec 2018 #40
Thinking a lot about what you and others are saying. Concluded that there are so many Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #41
Well, got a clue today. Repukes saying trump's Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #43
We shouldn't mistake media plays for more than they are. Hortensis Dec 2018 #44
The problem is that the fundamental assumption of impeachment is false marylandblue Dec 2018 #5
Sometimes you just need to do what's SMART. Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #6
What's smart Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #7
S.M.A.R.T. Goals Bucky Dec 2018 #10
There is a big difference between treason BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #8
Anyone who cites the founding fathers needs to review the history Bucky Dec 2018 #9
Impeachment is the legal recourse to a President having committed high crimes & misdemeanors. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #13
It might feel good to say that, but... Bucky Dec 2018 #14
Thank you for being a voice of reason EffieBlack Dec 2018 #34
I totally agree. The first duty of Congress is to protect the country, above all else. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #11
Trump convicted of multiple felonies will be very difficult to defend in Congress. Ford_Prefect Dec 2018 #12
So far, we know that trump committed at least 1 felony. Any party that attempts to sweep this under ecstatic Dec 2018 #15
Impeachment is a political process EffieBlack Dec 2018 #35
i think the most important thing to do first will be the investigations JI7 Dec 2018 #16
Field of dreams whistler162 Dec 2018 #17
Don't start a battle, even a righteous one, before you are armed enough to wage it DFW Dec 2018 #18
Two words - Fox News dansolo Dec 2018 #19
And how many times did the house vote to kill the ACA? Chasdev Dec 2018 #20
Because THAT approach worked so well? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #36
Good point. JohnnyRingo Dec 2018 #21
Apples and oranges pecosbob Dec 2018 #22
I would even question the premise -- that it backfired on the Republicans karynnj Dec 2018 #23
The impeachment of Cinton was fake. Scruffy1 Dec 2018 #29
Never start a fight you can't win, Codeine Dec 2018 #24
Is McConnell even required to act on it? Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #26
Do the math, do the math. Dems need to slice and dice Trump until the OnDoutside Dec 2018 #27
Impeaching with a simple majority in the House is no problem ... marble falls Dec 2018 #30
It doesn't mean it won't either. elocs Dec 2018 #31
K & R SunSeeker Dec 2018 #32
I look at it this way, Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #33
So why do they get to do whatever they want and we don't? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #42
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