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mcar

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Tue Dec 11, 2018, 04:01 PM Dec 2018

Pierce: Nancy Pelosi Just Mocked the President* to His Face in the Oval Office [View all]

Nancy Pelosi Just Mocked the President* to His Face in the Oval Office
So much for the Liberal Sellout.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
DEC 11, 2018

On Tuesday, right about at lunchtime, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer dropped down the street to the White House to have a chat with the president*. What followed was a piece of video that will live forever as a window into this sludgepot of a political moment. It is not that remarkable if you've ever watched Question Time from any of the various parliaments around the world. (I mean, holy Oliver Cromwell, somebody presented the mace in the House of Commons on Monday.) But, because the American government is greased by tawdry piety and transparently artificial civility, the meeting might as well have taken place in the Octogon.

The single most lasting impression of this altogether remarkable bit of reality-show theater was the look we got into what happens when people tell this particular president* that he can't have what he wants.

Watch as Pelosi tries, not altogether angrily, to explain to him that he doesn't have the votes for the big, beautiful, stupid wall for which, of course, Mexico is going to pay. She says the votes aren't there. He keeps saying he can get them instantly, but that the problem is that he can't get the votes in the Senate. They're both right. He doesn't have the votes in either place. But he runs down all the applause lines that get the rubes all ginned up at his rallies, and Pelosi keeps calmly telling him that, while he's as full of shit as the Christmas goose, nevertheless he and his big, beautiful, stupid wall should get further stuffed anyway.

(You should also notice that, off to one side, Mike Pence clearly has been shot with the trank gun by the Secret Service.)

Even Schumer suddenly discovers a thin vein of iron in his spine and maneuvers El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago into bragging about shutting down the government unless he gets his way, thereby undercutting any political strategy the Republicans in Congress might have been developing to blame a prospective shutdown on the Democrats. That sound you hear is the Republican congressional leadership taking delivery of a barge-load of bourbon.

Welcome to the next two years, and thank nature's god for them.

Pelosi has the president in her pocket and she knows it. (It will dawn on him eventually, too. Maybe.) The House controls the budget and, in January, the Democratic Party will hold the House. Since any argument about Pelosi's being an Accommodating Liberal Sellout should die with the release of this video, she will be the Speaker—and, as such, she can shred his administration*. This is the most essential part.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25475246/nancy-pelosi-mocks-president-trump-wall-oval-office/

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Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #1
Trump is clearly out of his league in that meeting. apcalc Dec 2018 #2
And I don't think Pelosi & Schumer were expecting it mcar Dec 2018 #3
I agree. The only person "setting" everyone up was Trump lunatica Dec 2018 #52
We saw the power of speaking the truth to defeat a Repug setup by Orange#45. nt NCjack Dec 2018 #64
Mitch came out right away and said no shutdown! True Blue American Dec 2018 #20
He doesn't know government or governing. He is out of his league when he leaves Mar-a-lago. allgood33 Dec 2018 #31
He's used to people he can con. Pelosi & Schumer aren't those people. calimary Dec 2018 #66
Great piece dalton99a Dec 2018 #4
here you go... DonViejo Dec 2018 #5
So good! mcar Dec 2018 #6
Thanks, Don! Nancy.. ".. we'll see Cha Dec 2018 #8
Take note the repeated use of her first name before each proclamation. Bully behavior. LuckyLib Dec 2018 #13
My auto mechanic does that constantly. He speaks broken English, so he uses it as a pause. C Moon Dec 2018 #19
Was Pence hypnotised Scarsdale Dec 2018 #32
He sure seemed heavily sedated mcar Dec 2018 #36
Mama trying patiently to explain NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #35
Sweet Nancy.. what's this Cha Dec 2018 #7
She is a badass! mcar Dec 2018 #37
.. Cha Dec 2018 #41
I'm reading he's still pitching a hissy mcar Dec 2018 #42
This should shut down the Pelosi whine that she's . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #9
Go, Nancy! connecticut yankee Dec 2018 #18
You got THAT right!!!!! MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #33
And if you noticed, Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #49
It should, peggysue2 mcar Dec 2018 #38
You will not win! GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #10
the wallTrump the wallTrump the wallTrump Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #11
I heard on the Lawrence O'Donnell show that he said it 45 times. lunatica Dec 2018 #53
is reality playin a joke on us? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #54
It depends on which reality you're talking about lunatica Dec 2018 #55
Best political television I've seen in decades. mahannah Dec 2018 #12
He's like an impatient child mokawanis Dec 2018 #14
See that face go red?:) True Blue American Dec 2018 #21
He tried so hard to appear like he was't angry mokawanis Dec 2018 #26
Especially when True Blue American Dec 2018 #58
My theory about Mike Pence ;-) FakeNoose Dec 2018 #15
He's Busy Thinking SDJay Dec 2018 #17
Yeah. Blue_true Dec 2018 #29
Don't forget about Pedophilia. They bring that shit up all the time. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #43
Nice To See Pence SDJay Dec 2018 #16
Either that, or he ate some special brownies before the meeting. Ilsa Dec 2018 #28
. AwakeAtLast Dec 2018 #50
Nancy and Chuck not only exposed dotard as being out of his league trying to Enoki33 Dec 2018 #22
Didn't even have to lead him. He built and then threw himself in his own trap. paleotn Dec 2018 #23
booyah! The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #24
The worlds greatest negotiator just got pantsed in front NoMoreRepugs Dec 2018 #25
And by a girl!* mcar Dec 2018 #39
As much as I admire and respect my J-school classmate -- Charlie Pierce -- I'm surprised... Fritz Walter Dec 2018 #27
This isn't just a distraction- they have to pass a funding bill YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #51
I didn't notice her mocking him in front of him. But I saw that HE was trying to blame the Democrats Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #30
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2018 #34
It was a thing of beauty and a joy forever. Then Nancy donned her red cape and flew away. nt Hekate Dec 2018 #40
I want that red coat! And the 😎 mcar Dec 2018 #46
I know! Badass Red Cha Dec 2018 #61
Nancy D'Alessandro from Baltimore DeminPennswoods Dec 2018 #44
...Pence clearly has been shot with the trank gun by the Secret Service babylonsister Dec 2018 #45
What was that! mcar Dec 2018 #47
Music to my ears. All of it. I waited 2 years for this. Pepsidog Dec 2018 #48
But Michael Moore thinks Trump is an evil genius. betsuni Dec 2018 #56
And, we "should Cha Dec 2018 #60
Wow what **sholes Stardust1 Dec 2018 #57
One of the most beautiful things BlueMTexpat Dec 2018 #59
That is my fondest hope mcar Dec 2018 #62
Pelosi will be third in line to the White House . . . MrModerate Dec 2018 #63
What a wonderful locution... NNadir Dec 2018 #65
wish p.o.s. would shut himself down Marthe48 Dec 2018 #67
Go Nancy !!! Apollyonus Dec 2018 #68
Cartoon: Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #69
Great one! mcar Dec 2018 #70
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