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Garrett78

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32. Trump benefited from a large field and winner-take-all primaries. And, as others have said...
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 02:54 AM
Dec 2018

...the Republican electorate is much different than the Democratic electorate. There were factors at play in 2016 that won't be in 2020. We had a Democratic nominee who had been under ruthless attack for 3 decades, Comey's last minute announcement and Trump was new (he still has a cult following, but he's even more hated now than he was 2 years ago).

MI and PA were blue for 6 straight elections prior to 2016, and WI was blue for 7 straight. I think any number of potential Democratic nominees will carry all 3 states, which would give our nominee 278 electoral votes. Because I don't think Trump can carry a single state that Clinton won. Be it VA or NV or CO, I just can't see Trump winning any state that he lost in '16.

Other states that will be in play include Florida (which is less red in presidential elections), North Carolina, Arizona and Georgia. Maybe even Iowa, Ohio and Texas. At the very least, Republicans will be forced to spend money in those states.

There's also a chance that some right winger will launch a 3rd party bid and pick off a state such as Utah, which would make Trump's path to 270 even more challenging. This is assuming Trump doesn't resign between now and then.

My strong preference is for Harris, but there are other potential candidates who can win.

I don't care what he is. I have one criteria for our 2020 candidate - the ability to beat Trump. Vinca Dec 2018 #1
Many people meet that criteria. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #6
Almost everyone meets that criteria. Almost. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #11
I'm not so sure about that. Look at how Trump blew through the primary. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #20
Not too many quality candidates in that bunch, though Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #24
People like Jeb Bush, Gov. of Florida, were thought to be "quality." pnwmom Dec 2018 #25
I don't agree about Biden at all Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #26
Agreed, great post. Trump is just a vulgar insulter, R B Garr Dec 2018 #30
How many debates have you seen Biden excel in? n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #38
Against Palin and Ryan Sugarcoated Dec 2018 #46
This is what I'm afraid he could descend to in a debate with Trump. pnwmom Dec 2018 #47
the problem with the republican primary are the republican voters themselves. JI7 Dec 2018 #29
Trump will not be running scarytomcat Dec 2018 #42
The Republicans in the Senate are unlikely to convict him, pnwmom Dec 2018 #43
time will tell scarytomcat Dec 2018 #44
Trump benefited from a large field and winner-take-all primaries. And, as others have said... Garrett78 Dec 2018 #32
Hear hear! ananda Dec 2018 #14
At this point, that's all that matters. Tiggeroshii Dec 2018 #27
Well...., UncleTomsEvilBrother Dec 2018 #2
Agree. Doremus Dec 2018 #12
Golly jeez. TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #3
+1. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2018 #5
The first comment in the thread made me lol. violetpastille Dec 2018 #4
Here we go again Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #7
Whereas I don't like labels, either. I pay attention Cha Dec 2018 #33
His failure to support Pelosi was a bad sign pecosbob Dec 2018 #8
Yep. Remember just a couple days ago people lost their collective shit over even the prospect of... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #15
more likely it was a political move since he is from Texas and was seeking higher office JI7 Dec 2018 #21
It probably was, but his endorsement of Tim Ryan is, I admit, disturbing. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #37
In the US House, Beto O'Rourke belongs to the New Democrat Coalition Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #9
He voted with the Republicans for bank deregulation. That worries me. vsrazdem Dec 2018 #10
I'm not big on labels either. I think that is a good stance to take. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #13
Good for Beto. ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #16
+1 grantcart Dec 2018 #17
I stand with Beto Gothmog Dec 2018 #18
Good for him. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #19
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING! NT Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #39
does anyone know where he stands on Gun Control ? JI7 Dec 2018 #22
here Tiggeroshii Dec 2018 #28
He was for background checks and bans/regulation of assault weapons. Pretty bold for a Texas race.n Blue_true Dec 2018 #45
Guess what? I like Beto n/t Liberal In Texas Dec 2018 #23
Good for Beto for rejecting divisive labels! We all know R B Garr Dec 2018 #31
He is a Texas Democrat and politically savvy for his age. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #34
Why don't we just let him be a Democrat for Christ sake. demosincebirth Dec 2018 #35
Good call. These days you don't know what people mean when they say progressive. betsuni Dec 2018 #36
It's become a hollowed out Skidmore Dec 2018 #40
Labels are divisive. Labels are dumb. Bucky Dec 2018 #41
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