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calimary

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34. My friend who voted for trump (because she likes Pence!?!?!) is also mighty quiet
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 12:39 PM
Dec 2018

these days.

I do feel like goading her sometimes, though.

“So you’re STILL ‘just going to be hopeful’?”

“So you STILL believe there’s no evidence?”

I haven’t yet. She’s having kind of a rough go at the moment. I’m not that sadistic. She has yet to give me a good reason why she clings to the GOP. She’s a union member, deathly afraid she won’t be able to qualify for union coverage if she doesn’t keep working. She’s the mother of a daughter. She’s a single mom scraping by who’s bent over backwards to raise two kids on her own, alienated from the rest of her family who COULD give her support but refuse to do so. She’s underwater on her mortgage with bills piling up that she can’t afford to pay. And her kids are now grown up and moving out of state, leaving her to slog through her troubles alone. You’d think she’d recognize how much more sympathetic and supportive the Democrats’ policies are - especially to people struggling to make ends meet as she has had to do. But I did hear her mumble “babykillers!” while visiting us awhile back, when we were edging into talk about politics. Maybe that’s it.

And I’ve TRIED AND TRIED AND TRIED to get through to her. With no success. Maybe it’s because years ago she moved with her kids to a red state and watches a lot of Pox Noise. I suspect her neighbors and friends there in that red state do too. So she’s surrounded and totally immersed in that toxicity. I can tell, every time she argues back at me. All the knuckledragger talking points and slogans are there. I’ve actually said I want to rescue her from that poisonous prison. She replies that she doesn’t need any rescuing.

So sometimes I just throw up my hands in resignation. Some people WON’T be saved. It’s awfully hard to have to admit you were wrong, or even worse, to admit you’ve been HAD. There’s the shame thing. So we talk about her rather ridiculous work schedule that she complicated with her own problematic decisions. And about her kids whom she loves like crazy and struggled to support and provide for. I’ve tried and tried and tried to help her and be supportive because she’s having a seriously hard time. But she WON’T budge in her thinking.

Because “babykillers” I guess. Go figure. Not sure what else I can do. I used to slip her a little cash every week. But the kind of help she needs is WAY beyond my means. It’s like trying to bail out a sinking boat when all you’ve got is a teaspoon.

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My variation on your riff is "You were told but you wouldn't listen." no_hypocrisy Dec 2018 #1
I have been thinking the same... going to wait until more criminality is exposed to the light. apcalc Dec 2018 #2
What will really get to them is if we don't say a word. Just... TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #3
Just let a slight smirk cross your face. They'll see it and understand. No words. (nt) erronis Dec 2018 #30
This has been my approach. susanna Dec 2018 #41
guess we answered the question just how fucking stupid are you dembotoz Dec 2018 #4
Well, that's one approach. Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #5
April 15 greymattermom Dec 2018 #6
nope they will blame Nancy Pelosi. Just you watch. mucifer Dec 2018 #26
"So many of us are still holding our tongues." elocs Dec 2018 #7
I've been here before louis c Dec 2018 #8
Same here! MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #15
My brother voted for Trump. He admitted to me a year ago that he made a mistake. Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #9
I won't ever say that to my best friend, but we both know it's true, lol. lark Dec 2018 #10
I think his father gave him 400 million? Maybe I'm wrong. watoos Dec 2018 #12
Oops, I left out a zero. I will fix that. lark Dec 2018 #13
I'm guessing only federal/state auditors and SCO know the real $s. Probably more than 400-500M. erronis Dec 2018 #31
To change the narrative you have to talk like Richard Painter. watoos Dec 2018 #11
Curiously snowybirdie Dec 2018 #14
My friend who voted for trump (because she likes Pence!?!?!) is also mighty quiet calimary Dec 2018 #34
On "Babykillers" violetpastille Dec 2018 #40
I've noticed that, too. WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2018 #42
My Trump voting mother announced last week Sedona Dec 2018 #16
My "I told you so" moment Granny M Dec 2018 #17
I won't get to. They wanted this chaos. They wanted an unknown. MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #18
The tRumpers I know are all still in denial infullview Dec 2018 #19
You can't fix stupid. In response to a suggestion that she LibDemAlways Dec 2018 #25
Rachel is not as easily watched as FOX violetpastille Dec 2018 #36
True. Rachel never met a topic she LibDemAlways Dec 2018 #44
We won't have to. They'll be telling us, "I always opposed Trump! struggle4progress Dec 2018 #20
I think that's what's coming. Sure did with Nixon. calimary Dec 2018 #38
Exactly Nictuku Dec 2018 #43
I keep telling people what I always have: Are you that stupid? Is anyone?! Efilroft Sul Dec 2018 #21
I have otherwise sane longtime friends who shy away from LibDemAlways Dec 2018 #22
Yup RealityBasedNewYorkr Dec 2018 #23
Good edits. Thanks. erronis Dec 2018 #32
Yep. calimary Dec 2018 #39
Do not curse the light! griloco Dec 2018 #24
According to this, it's now! usrbs Dec 2018 #27
"Don't avoid us. We know what you're thinking. Just own your regret, say it and move on. ancianita Dec 2018 #28
Are all the others staying quiet about their love of trump? lancelyons Dec 2018 #29
I said it yesterday to an idiot aquaintance ooky Dec 2018 #33
How about today? PJMcK Dec 2018 #35
In my group, I'd waiting to see them turn on Trump first. Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #37
I rubbed it in my best friend's face after Cohen got sentenced Mr. Quackers Dec 2018 #45
Depends on who you want to say it to Bucky Dec 2018 #46
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