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37. Tammy Duckworth.

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Sun Dec 16, 2018, 09:37 PM

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Nominating a woman or person of color vs. nominating "the best person." [View all] Garrett78 Dec 2018 OP

One thing for sure, after black womens' and other POC s' efforts in... brush Dec 2018 #1

+1 violetpastille Dec 2018 #2

This. CrispyQ Dec 2018 #6

Black folks share power within this party. nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #12

three-fifths? nt sheshe2 Dec 2018 #30

I saw what you did there. brush Dec 2018 #31

umhmm. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #45

+1000,000,000 ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #22

+ infinity! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #28

Hear! Hear! Kind of Blue Dec 2018 #86

I have no personal prerequisites sarisataka Dec 2018 #3

Only if a POC or woman is not the VP pick. Two white males would be problematic. brush Dec 2018 #4

Her gender and her race are PLUSES, not the be-all-end-all. (n/t) Iggo Dec 2018 #5

I agree with this. Adrahil Dec 2018 #16

Yep hueymahl Dec 2018 #33

"Let's not fall victim to color-blind racism." spicysista Dec 2018 #7

And the rhetoric used to argue against affirmative action is on full display in post #32. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #43

Don't let it get you down. The "colour-blind" folks are... spicysista Dec 2018 #61

Post #50 was to be my last, but I wanted to say I appreciate your thoughtful reply. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #77

Of course, people of color and women are far more likely to be elected as democrats, and of JCanete Dec 2018 #8

I am all for diversity, but, sadly, there is still a political cost to be paid for being inclusive. Persondem Dec 2018 #9

So how do those figures account for O winning twice and Hillary winning the pop. vote by 3m? brush Dec 2018 #23

Well you could do your own reading and figure it out. But apparently O was 5% - 7% better and so Persondem Dec 2018 #25

Meh, we always have to work harder to combat repug cheating... brush Dec 2018 #26

That seems to be an overly dismissive interpretation.... Persondem Dec 2018 #27

We just love this pessimistic stuff to kick off our candidate evaluations. brush Dec 2018 #29

What they're saying NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #69

That's not hard to understand. African Americans get that. Women get that. brush Dec 2018 #82

There are all sorts of problems with that analysis and the assumptions made. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #44

Did you actually read the article and do you understand regression analysis? nt Persondem Dec 2018 #84

There is also a cost for not being inclusive.n/t delisen Dec 2018 #52

That is very interesting information. If you are Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #55

Pew said 19% were more likely to vote for a woman, 9% less likely muriel_volestrangler Dec 2018 #70

Thank you for the reasonable response. I admitted in my post that I was extrapolating Persondem Dec 2018 #85

K&R. JHan Dec 2018 #10

Very well said. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #46

I understand your frustration. JHan Dec 2018 #63

It's. Not. Either. Or. Iggo Dec 2018 #11

That was, more or less, my point. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #41

Yes thank you Bucky Dec 2018 #48

So we should become a party of identity politics? nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #13

All politics is "Identity Politics" Caliman73 Dec 2018 #14

"...the way to minimize them is to call them "identity politics". brush Dec 2018 #24

Holy shit kcr Dec 2018 #15

Name an issue that does not boil down to "identity politics." The whole concept is a racist, sexist Squinch Dec 2018 #36

Oh, my gosh. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #17

Why isn't a woman or person of color Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #18

See my post below. Plenty of nasty women and minorities in the GOP. It is a party thing, not a race/ McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #20

They could be.... Adrahil Dec 2018 #42

Women and minorities in the GOP are as mean as the white men. McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #19

Funny, I see folks repeating the same shit as when Hillary ran. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #21

I'm for nominating the best person Jarqui Dec 2018 #32

Why are Kamala and Beto the two that intrigue you most if you don't know much about them? oberliner Dec 2018 #35

I didn't say "don't know much about them" Jarqui Dec 2018 #40

Gotcha oberliner Dec 2018 #54

I think another big factor too is who we will be Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #57

+1 totally agree 100% mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #75

Yeah. First thing to study closely. Can they WIN??? calimary Dec 2018 #76

I want the best person left-of-center2012 Dec 2018 #34

Define "best" Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #39

That's what most people would say. And yet pnwmom Dec 2018 #51

i want the best person left-of-center2012 Dec 2018 #65

Is that most people's fault, though? TCJ70 Dec 2018 #72

Tammy Duckworth. Squinch Dec 2018 #37

I love her, but do not think she will run yet.... Adrahil Dec 2018 #78

It's time to turn over they keys. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #38

Nominate the best person. lancelyons Dec 2018 #47

You lost me with "color-blind racism" Bucky Dec 2018 #49

Well, there are plenty of resources to help you not feel lost. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #50

I think racism/male chauvinism was Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #58

He added fuel to the fire, sure Bucky Dec 2018 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author VOX Dec 2018 #66

2004 was the last time we ran two white males Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #53

In 2016 the bet person for the job was a woman. 30% of the voters don't care for the best qualified allgood33 Dec 2018 #56

I think we should let the primary voters decide. What is absolutely, positively necessary is to be Vinca Dec 2018 #60

Kamala Harris could be the one. mia Dec 2018 #62

Go with the best person. kentuck Dec 2018 #64

This time around, I have no clear favorite at the moment. VOX Dec 2018 #67

The two aren't mutually exclusive. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #68

It's not a good idea to discount someone from something based on their gender or race. TCJ70 Dec 2018 #71

The two choices need not be at odds karynnj Dec 2018 #73

WHY are you framing this as either-or, 2 mutually exclusive options? I reject that premise Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2018 #74

It's others who have framed it that way. I'm disputing that framing. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #79

Let everyone interested run in the primaries. The voters will decide. If a woman or a POC jalan48 Dec 2018 #80

We nominated the best person who happened to be a woman in 2016. MoonRiver Dec 2018 #81

This quote from former Raiders owner Al Davis sums up my view on our politics BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #83