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mr_lebowski

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82. A male who's shown solid and unequivocable support for women's issues

Mon Dec 17, 2018, 03:41 PM

Dec 2018

Will suffice for ME, given the expected stakes in 2020. The gender of our nominee is not the end-all be-all when it comes to 'fighting for equality' by our party.

In the even that Trump is gone and the Pubbies have nominated someone who I don't fear will hasten the end of the damn world dramatically like IQ45, I'm prepared to be a little more flexible on making 'the female gender' my most important defining characteristic of the Democratic nominee.

Just speaking for myself, and I'm not saying 'I'm right', it's just how I feel.

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I didn't vote for a woman in 2016 [View all] LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 OP

If the Democratic primary is between a woman and a man, Squinch Dec 2018 #1

You and me both. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #3

Regardless of positions or qualifications? Adrahil Dec 2018 #16

Really, does no one read? Squinch Dec 2018 #20

I see you automatically disqualifying people based on gender. TCJ70 Dec 2018 #28

Kay. You go with that. Squinch Dec 2018 #40

I mean...it's not like this is the only post you've made on the subject: TCJ70 Dec 2018 #49

Is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Squinch Dec 2018 #51

Not at all... TCJ70 Dec 2018 #55

We've spent recorded history in one specific place LanternWaste Dec 2018 #62

No arguments from me. I understand the history. TCJ70 Dec 2018 #67

No, it is not some sort of revenge! It is a desire to be represented! Squinch Dec 2018 #72

"I just think it's odd to think someone can't do something based on what's between their legs." Squinch Dec 2018 #66

Why are people assuming gender has to be the next frontier? MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #103

Because 51% of the population are women and we have never been represented. Squinch Dec 2018 #110

I'm not sure I agree with that. MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #113

Your agreement is not required. Squinch Dec 2018 #114

Temper temper. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #115

I feel no temper at all. Simply stating a fact. Squinch Dec 2018 #116

WEll, you said... Adrahil Dec 2018 #33

That's nice, dear. Squinch Dec 2018 #41

;) NT Adrahil Dec 2018 #58

I'm not sure you did get the point. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #56

I'll vote for the best, but if all else is equal I will vote for the woman. n/t Chemisse Dec 2018 #52

That is the best approach of all I would think LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #80

OK, so damn me. I want to be represented. Horrible, I know. Squinch Dec 2018 #81

I could come up with a different word I guess. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #87

For me, choosing from the list of Democratic possibilities being floated, all else IS equal. Squinch Dec 2018 #89

"how little regard even my fellow Democrats have for women" LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #92

Why would I need to analyze Sarah Silverman's actions? I didn't answer the question Squinch Dec 2018 #93

I only was curious about your reaction to the Silverman example LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #95

Happy holidays to you too. Squinch Dec 2018 #96

Been where you're at and it is exasperating, isn't it? I think some folks consider Atticus Dec 2018 #101

Thanks for this. The hysteria with which my words have been Squinch Dec 2018 #112

That's the plan. TomSlick Dec 2018 #97

I too would like to see a female president... but your stated policy borders on sexism FBaggins Dec 2018 #53

A woman says women should be represented for the first time Squinch Dec 2018 #91

Wow... you can just sense gender across the internet, eh? FBaggins Dec 2018 #99

Ok. You go with that. Squinch Dec 2018 #100

Don't agree. lark Dec 2018 #64

I love Joe, but he stabbed Anita Hill for HIS own burnishing. Squinch Dec 2018 #69

Joe learned and changed, their bad deeds just happened. lark Dec 2018 #70

Lol! I suspect that you guys will come up with some lame argument like Squinch Dec 2018 #73

I'm not a guy - fail. lark Dec 2018 #88

My reply stands. Squinch Dec 2018 #90

So....is someone like Sarah Silverman wrong? LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #83

You guys are working so hard to suggest I've said things I haven't said. Squinch Dec 2018 #84

"the horrible women in history"? trev Dec 2018 #104

Yeah, you don't see color or gender. johnp3907 Dec 2018 #2

Why is that a problem? trev Dec 2018 #105

Are you denying that every president has had a penis? MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #4

No, I made no such assertion. Please reread my post. /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #5

Too many penises. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #6

Will any vagina do? NT Adrahil Dec 2018 #19

Oh here we go again. That's been addressed. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #21

Read what Squinch posted.... Adrahil Dec 2018 #25

Apparently BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #24

No, that poster is saying no such fucking thing. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #31

You don't read very well, apparently. Name the possible female Squinch Dec 2018 #43

You don't read very well either BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #45

You going to change the word again, or do you think it makes sense this time? Squinch Dec 2018 #48

That's a stupid comment. trev Dec 2018 #106

Who is denying they should be embraced? BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #108

Someone who has never NOT been represented, telling those who have never BEEN Squinch Dec 2018 #111

Then why do you think only men have been president? How do you account for that? kcr Dec 2018 #117

Because I don't make reflexive choices based on gender BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #120

Which possible female Democratic primary contender has Squinch Dec 2018 #47

Kirsten Gillibrand. NT Adrahil Dec 2018 #50

I can understand that, but every male contender I have ever been Squinch Dec 2018 #77

Okay. Fair enough. NT Adrahil Dec 2018 #78

Tulsi Gabbard. n/t namahage Dec 2018 #79

... LexVegas Dec 2018 #7

I agree with you Guppy Dec 2018 #8

You are only worried about your own comfort zone. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #12

This is exactly my point Guppy Dec 2018 #29

Yes, everyone is emotional but you my dear. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #32

you prove my point Guppy Dec 2018 #37

Whatever helps you sleep at night. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #38

wow big tough woman Guppy Dec 2018 #42

Representation is selfish? Squinch Dec 2018 #75

I assume that almost all of us did just that in 2016 nt karynnj Dec 2018 #34

Perhaps you should reflect a bit on what you wrote. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #65

Stacey Abrams and Gillum's Positions were not the same as Beto's BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #71

*sigh* ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #9

Whiteness is a VERY VISIBLE standard. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #68

I think default is a better word ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #74

Definitely Caliman73 Dec 2018 #76

You miss the point. cilla4progress Dec 2018 #10

Additional, yes but that does not mean that - in total - they would beat all white males karynnj Dec 2018 #27

For me, race and sex are just two factors I consider. Adrahil Dec 2018 #57

I agree. But no matter how you phrase it.. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #11

True. A lot of that twisting you refer to is obvious projection. borgesian Dec 2018 #36

Thank You -- this is exactly how it should be looked at karynnj Dec 2018 #13

I've always voted for policy. I don't give a damn what is between Autumn Dec 2018 #14

It's almost as if you're taking an adult approach to your decision. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #35

the plain fact of the matter is mopinko Dec 2018 #15

Let then push their way through and show us what they got. Adrahil Dec 2018 #22

yeah, sure, the cream rises to the top. mopinko Dec 2018 #23

Your "wall of white penises" comment is not to far off...maybe it's time to try something different InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #85

edit sorry kcr Dec 2018 #118

I plan to support my Democratic Party's candidates FakeNoose Dec 2018 #17

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #18

Pretty sure we all will. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #26

So do I. But if the primary is between a Democratic man and a Democratic woman, Squinch Dec 2018 #86

I am with you. nt jrthin Dec 2018 #30

I agree with you. DavidDvorkin Dec 2018 #39

From a fellow longtime Dem living in AZ ... +1 mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #44

you are correct that women face a steeper uphill climb than men, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #59

A male who's shown solid and unequivocable support for women's issues mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #82

I'll vote for the most qualified candidate, like always BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #46

We've never elected a woman as President, either. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #54

I voted in the Texas primary and the general election for the best candidate Gothmog Dec 2018 #60

I voted for Obama. I also voted for a black man. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #61

I understand the sentiment. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #63

I base my vote... quickesst Dec 2018 #94

Among Democrats, being a woman weighs a LOT. Sparkly Dec 2018 #98

I vote for what's between their legs and the hue of their skin. Every time. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #102

Well said! +1!!! Devil Child Dec 2018 #107

You did vote for a woman, but that's not why you voted for her... cynatnite Dec 2018 #109

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way kcr Dec 2018 #119