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192. I'd be good with the knocking out Sanders bit

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #52)

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:19 PM

Dec 2018

I supported him in 2016. I'm ready for a fresh leader this time around. Someone under 60 would be great.

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Gillibrand says she's worried about top options in Dem 2020 poll being white men [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 OP

She is just mad because there are more appealing candidates than her. phleshdef Dec 2018 #1

Yep. nt jrthin Dec 2018 #9

How then should she have responded? LanternWaste Dec 2018 #11

She could drop her name from consideration and support Kamala Harris Bucky Dec 2018 #150

...and why should she do that? brooklynite Dec 2018 #162

I'm thinking about all the money she'll save Bucky Dec 2018 #188

Agreed, cept substitute the name Elizabeth Warren. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #176

Didn't she Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #184

Remember those horrible mid80s hairstyles? Bucky Dec 2018 #186

Agreed nt Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #189

"I think he should resign," Elizabeth Warren said in a statement put out by her staff." brooklynite Dec 2018 #190

Who also called for Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #183

So you're saying there are natural allies. I agree!! Bucky Dec 2018 #187

Yup!! Nt helpisontheway Dec 2018 #22

Pretty much. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #27

Nailed it! NurseJackie Dec 2018 #35

The answer, ironically, is from Melania. Be best! ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2018 #40

8oO Bucky Dec 2018 #151

When did she say that? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #45

Its what I believe. And you don't get to complain about her being demonized... phleshdef Dec 2018 #46

And millions believed the Earth was flat for centuries Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #47

You're just posting nonsensical rhetorical jibberish. phleshdef Dec 2018 #48

Having respect for facts over beliefs is jibberish? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #50

News flash. I'm allowed to have an opinion about her personal character. phleshdef Dec 2018 #56

And that gives you the right to demonize someone? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #68

I watched her take the podium and attack Franken. MoonRiver Dec 2018 #86

OK Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #91

When asked what should happen to Franken she said "enough is enough." MoonRiver Dec 2018 #92

How is that a personal attack? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #99

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #116

...as did almost every other Democratic Senator... brooklynite Dec 2018 #163

Gillibrand disregarded facts, when ousting Franken. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #115

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #118

I'm not going to get into a debate w/you. Been there, done that. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #120

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #121

Stop it. If you don't know the facts at this late stage, you don't want to know. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #122

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #125

Your mama wears army boots? Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #128

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #136

Please see posts #122 and #128. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #137

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #139

Please see post #137. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #140

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #144

Please see post #137. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #146

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #147

Please see post #137, DU threads on the subject, CNN, Youtube videos on the subject. This is settled Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #149

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #157

Please see post #137. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #158

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #159

Please see Post #137. Case proven. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #168

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #169

The information is all there. Do your own research, please. Post #137. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #170

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #171

Please see post #170. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #172

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #173

I'm not doing your research for you. You don't want to know the facts. See post #173. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #191

What facts were disregarded? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #193

So you're knocking out Klobuchar, Booker, Harris, Sanders as well? brooklynite Dec 2018 #52

No just Gillibrand. She was especially shady about the whole thing. phleshdef Dec 2018 #55

...and the other were stupid enough to buy her argument? brooklynite Dec 2018 #57

Yes. They stupidly jumped on the bandwagon. phleshdef Dec 2018 #59

So you wouldn't want to elect them President either... brooklynite Dec 2018 #61

I would vote for Gillibrand if she is the nominee. phleshdef Dec 2018 #64

Several of those who jumped on the bandwagon... quickesst Dec 2018 #69

+1. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #117

Yep quickesst Dec 2018 #156

Exactly... Gillibrand led the way in denying Franken due process. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #180

I'd be good with the knocking out Sanders bit Bucky Dec 2018 #192

Indeedy-o. I second that. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #114

Yes, KG demonized herself! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #179

WAY more!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #77

Indeedy-o. I didn't know her hat was in the ring. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #112

I don't have a problem MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #2

I agree with her for once, as long as she's not the woman on the ticket. brush Dec 2018 #3

It's never "the right woman" is it. Maru Kitteh Dec 2018 #131

Don't even try it. Hillary was the right woman. Klobuchar, Harris, Warren could be... brush Dec 2018 #133

How many men have we forgiven that for? Maru Kitteh Dec 2018 #141

I resent your implication that I feel that no woman is ever the right woman. brush Dec 2018 #143

I'm worried it might be her. nt Baltimike Dec 2018 #4

I doubt it will be. BlueStater Dec 2018 #5

Yeah, as my old friend Lenny would have said, "Balls to her," after her Franken contribution., 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #8

Is that why she barely won re-election Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #51

And that means what as far as her popularity as a presidential candidate is concerned? BlueStater Dec 2018 #58

Yet it was still a larger margin Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #60

You realize New York is fourth in population, right? n/t BlueStater Dec 2018 #66

What does that have to do with % margin of victory? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #67

Are you serious? BlueStater Dec 2018 #74

Number of voters Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #90

Again, it's a mostly blue state. BlueStater Dec 2018 #100

Still a higher % than any other statewide candidate Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #102

Thank you for entirely ignoring all my arguments challenging your narrative. BlueStater Dec 2018 #106

I didn't ignore them Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #109

And I pointed out that it's a very blue state. BlueStater Dec 2018 #127

Yes it is Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #135

She led the charge against Franken. She chose to do that for political purposes. She miscalculated. dem4decades Dec 2018 #105

What does that have to do with her margin of victory? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #108

her margin of victory? who cares. My accusation that she led the charge against Franken? dem4decades Dec 2018 #134

My post was about her margin of victory Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #138

"people were suspicious that Gillibrand's move was a political gambit." dem4decades Dec 2018 #142

That is opinion Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #145

She's my Senator. She is dead to me for the Franken business. Golden Raisin Dec 2018 #41

Don't. nt greyl Dec 2018 #71

I agree, don't support gillibrand! Nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #89

Okay...run Pelosi pecosbob Dec 2018 #6

She threw her chance away. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #7

Van Jones asked her the question oberliner Dec 2018 #10

Yes, any Democrat would have given a similar answer. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #21

Exactly oberliner Dec 2018 #39

No. Here's what a real leader would have said, IMO: Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #119

polls at this point are meaningless. i wouldn't put any stock (or worry) into any of them Takket Dec 2018 #12

I just want to win in 2020 Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #13

So that's why she capped off Al? HipChick Dec 2018 #14

Hey, that's one less she'll have to worry about. nt oasis Dec 2018 #24

If Gillibrand is worried about her Presidential options, well Vogon_Glory Dec 2018 #15

Hahaha, very funny ! A tad obvious though... OnDoutside Dec 2018 #16

Sorry, Senator. elleng Dec 2018 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author DURHAM D Dec 2018 #18

I think that will change in the next year. I would like to see a woman take down Trump. Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #19

While I would love to see a woman or person of color as the Democratic nominee, Arkansas Granny Dec 2018 #20

She's already picked off one potential candidate. Look out.. jalan48 Dec 2018 #23

That was my first thought as well BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #85

We have better candidates IMHO. jalan48 Dec 2018 #113

Yes, KG has disqualified herself... but, there are many other capable, qualified women InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #167

That's alright Kristen you don't have to worry one minute about it, the Democratic Party grantcart Dec 2018 #25

Perhaps so, but Al Franken will have nothing to do with the decision. brooklynite Dec 2018 #53

It won't help. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #123

"There are a lot of people" brooklynite Dec 2018 #124

Sorry. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #129

She should force them out of office then budkin Dec 2018 #26

Hell, if she is powerful enough to do that alone. Blue_true Dec 2018 #36

Doesn't matter Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #54

I am afraid so. nt Blue_true Dec 2018 #111

I think it's pretty easy... Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #126

We shouldn't decide it must be a woman or it must be a man or it must be a person of color or Vinca Dec 2018 #28

I agree, let primaries determine who represents us. Blue_true Dec 2018 #37

+1 n/t Devil Child Dec 2018 #87

I think we should assume the nominee will be either Trump or Nikki Haley. pnwmom Dec 2018 #29

Harris/O'Rourke or O'Rourke/Harris would be most formidable. John Fante Dec 2018 #30

Trump won't be around in 2020, I hope. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #132

Enough with the identity politics Lheurch Dec 2018 #31

Are we never allowed to have white males again? Our last 3 tickets OrlandoDem2 Dec 2018 #32

Every single president in the history of the US has been male oberliner Dec 2018 #33

44 out of 45 Presidents have been White Males dsc Dec 2018 #43

White males had well over a two-century run and look where it got us... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #79

That's precisely the identity politics we don't need. OrlandoDem2 Dec 2018 #82

Fortunately Democratic primary voters will decide GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #34

I moved from Texas to Nevada some years ago pecosbob Dec 2018 #38

Too bad, KG. ananda Dec 2018 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #44

I could easily vote for Gillibrand. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #49

No way she gets the nomination with her record... zero chance. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #81

Her record is pretty solid. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #104

Actually her record is amazing. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #166

Can we please TheFarseer Dec 2018 #62

And how they can effectively communicate with thousands of grantcart Dec 2018 #65

Our last nominee was a woman, Clinton and before her a man of color, Obama. Rizen Dec 2018 #63

"that we are all of that, we are everything" greyl Dec 2018 #70

It is OK if the top contenders for the Democratic 2020 POTUS nominee are men. democratisphere Dec 2018 #72

Depends on which men you're talking about. BlueStater Dec 2018 #75

I would also... Mike Nelson Dec 2018 #73

only one person can win the nomination. All the women who want to run, run. Stop balming other wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #76

Too soon for the intraparty 'undercuts' empedocles Dec 2018 #78

It doesn't worry me at all. If it's a white woman or man or a woman or man of color and I like Autumn Dec 2018 #80

Not good that she demonizes someone based on their gender and race. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #83

It's really not a good look to automatically discount... TCJ70 Dec 2018 #84

While I think diversity is important.... Adrahil Dec 2018 #88

What did Van Jones mean when he asked the question? oberliner Dec 2018 #95

I think he was looking for a reply like he got. Adrahil Dec 2018 #101

Isn't it a rule on this forum not to bash other Democrats? crazycatlady Dec 2018 #93

You consider my posting an article that quotes Gillibrand to be bashing? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #94

Pretty sure they were referencing the responses to the OP oberliner Dec 2018 #97

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #98

I might be wrong about others blue cat Dec 2018 #152

The ticket will be racially and gender balanced as it should be. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #96

Sorry, this NYer says... we don't need a NYer. zonkers Dec 2018 #103

Is she now? Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2018 #107

She's got a lot of men left to throw under the bus before she can announce for president. milestogo Dec 2018 #110

So am I. nt Maru Kitteh Dec 2018 #130

She's spot on. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #148

The woman's march was barely covered? BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #160

being covered vs. being covered in a serious manner MariePinchon Dec 2018 #164

Glad you mentioned the blue wave BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #165

No, it's not subjective. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #174

Yeah I think we're definitly consuming two kinds of media. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #175

You either realize gender bias in the media, or you don't. MariePinchon Dec 2018 #177

Remember Al Franken? JeaneRaye Dec 2018 #153

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) has bogged herself down LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #154

It just so happens that the candidate who I like the most, Tom Steyer, is a white man. StevieM Dec 2018 #155

Amy Klobuchar is in the mix as well. brooklynite Dec 2018 #161

She's fourth over all in this poll Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #185

I agree with that. Sparkly Dec 2018 #178

Let's play diversity bingo, and who cares if we lose! X_Digger Dec 2018 #181

For goodness sakes, as Democrats, should we not be content with having a collective mindset Mr. Ected Dec 2018 #182