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Major Nikon

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62. 14% of the population smokes

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:40 PM

Dec 2018

Less for hard drugs. Hardly a vast majority. More than three times more people die from auto accidents vs skin cancer even if you attribute all of them to sun exposure.

Distracted and exhausted driving is regulated in every state for all drivers and is covered by several different laws with more new ones particularly concerning cell phone use.

Impaired driving increases everyone’s risk not just those who engage in it.

All of these tertiary things you keep bringing up are irrelevant. It’s like the gun nuts who claim we shouldn’t regulate guns until all other problems are solved. Such things are commonly referred to as red herring fallacies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

Lowering the BAC standard will save thousands of lives, reduce serious injuries, and save millions in property damage. That’s actually the issue.

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Utah set to drop blood-alcohol limit to .05, strictest in country [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 OP

In addition, any detectable coffee. Sneederbunk Dec 2018 #1

I was going to say: Aristus Dec 2018 #7

why not lower it to .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001? maxsolomon Dec 2018 #2

It's more about filling private prisons and revenue BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #4

Its Utah so IDK maxsolomon Dec 2018 #18

Not low enough. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #20

So, make it illegal for production and consumption? maxsolomon Dec 2018 #22

Just for Utah. Since they want to violate the Constitution. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #42

.05? Cirque du So-What Dec 2018 #3

Good. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #5

No... lame54 Dec 2018 #8

Question: maxsolomon Dec 2018 #17

Sounds good to me. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #19

And precisely what good end do you prophecize coming from this? LanternWaste Dec 2018 #26

He gets to feel good about himself Downtown Hound Dec 2018 #31

that's precisely who is the biggest risk maxsolomon Dec 2018 #36

Wow, you really have a vivid imagination. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #38

I remember lots of people saying, "I don't want drugs in my neighborhood," Downtown Hound Dec 2018 #39

Tired drivers? Distracted drivers? Depressed drivers? nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #41

In other words, no logic in your decision. Got it. nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #40

And capital punishment. dalton99a Dec 2018 #24

One drink is now impairment for me Rorey Dec 2018 #6

Anecdotal. It is possible to drink alcohol and drive afterwards. maxsolomon Dec 2018 #15

Absolutely right. Rorey Dec 2018 #35

A regular cocktail is 1 standard drink, not 2 TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #49

Okay, here's my (mostly) joke opinion: Buzzed drivers are the safest drivers out there. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #9

Only partially zipplewrath Dec 2018 #12

"People modify their behavior towards safety." Rorey Dec 2018 #37

Out of control zipplewrath Dec 2018 #10

Thanks, Zipplewrath maxsolomon Dec 2018 #23

Thank you Downtown Hound Dec 2018 #29

In America, if the risk is not 0% maxsolomon Dec 2018 #32

Yup zipplewrath Dec 2018 #51

Cringe worthy zipplewrath Dec 2018 #33

.05% is the limit for most of Europe already Major Nikon Dec 2018 #45

There's alot of question zipplewrath Dec 2018 #47

What you're describing is actually a pretty good argument for changing the standard Major Nikon Dec 2018 #48

But those other factors would have to be present zipplewrath Dec 2018 #50

Occupying a motor vehicle is the most dangerous activity the vast majority of us do Major Nikon Dec 2018 #54

Not even close zipplewrath Dec 2018 #60

14% of the population smokes Major Nikon Dec 2018 #62

At any one time zipplewrath Dec 2018 #63

It already has Major Nikon Dec 2018 #64

Between 0.05 and 0.08? zipplewrath Dec 2018 #67

My nephew got cited for having a lethal level of alcohol on his breath. LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #55

I was disabled by a drunk driver nini Dec 2018 #59

How drunk? zipplewrath Dec 2018 #61

Someone had better warn Brett Kavanaugh Ohiogal Dec 2018 #11

being from drunken wisconsin that would not go over well here dembotoz Dec 2018 #13

CDL class limit is .04%. Kittycow Dec 2018 #14

Don't drink and drive. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #16

That pretty much sums it up! There are so many options now there is no excuse for Luciferous Dec 2018 #21

At 0.050 I don't care. zipplewrath Dec 2018 #27

This is in line melm00se Dec 2018 #25

Kinda zipplewrath Dec 2018 #28

Europe also has amazing and affordable public transportation Downtown Hound Dec 2018 #43

I have no problem with that. Just have a designated driver who won't drink. still_one Dec 2018 #30

I found this chart illuminating: maxsolomon Dec 2018 #34

I can exercise the privileges granted by cloudbase Dec 2018 #44

I always thought the rule was... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #46

8 hours from bottle to throttle zipplewrath Dec 2018 #52

Texting or jacking with your cell phone while driving is WORSE........... Bengus81 Dec 2018 #53

The problem in Utah will be selective enforcement. hunter Dec 2018 #56

From this list, most of the world is at the Utah level or below karynnj Dec 2018 #57

I've been to Salt Lake a few times this year, Uber/Lyft is everywhere tritsofme Dec 2018 #58

Australia has had .05 in every state since the 1970s. Saved thousands of lives as statistics showed. BSdetect Dec 2018 #65

Not sure about that zipplewrath Dec 2018 #66