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Tom Rinaldo

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43. My gut tells me this would not be a great idea. But he won his seat by primarying a Dem incumbent

Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:21 PM

Dec 2018

I know Jeffries is in Democratic leadership but I do not know enough about either him or his district to have a well formed opinion on this potential challenge (or challenger), if true.

Both AOC and Jeffries got into Congress by winning a primary against an incumbent Democrat. Both can be primaried themselves if anyone wants to run against them (or support someone running against them.) I do not oppose primaries when each candidate represents themselves truthfully and is sincere abut why they are running. It is then up to the voters to decide.

I know the arguments against primaries that involve a Democratic incumbent. They make sense, but I think they are outweighed by the argument that democracy involves choices and let the voters decide. The first time Barack Obama ran for Congress he ran against a Democratic incumbent (and lost).

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Politico: AOC weighs a new primary target: Hakeem Jeffries [View all] EffieBlack Dec 2018 OP

Grrrrrrrr Me. Dec 2018 #1

Yes, this is the kind of thing that rankles people. LisaM Dec 2018 #2

Getting younger people of color and women into the House? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #33

How does primarying a solid Democrat help anything? mcar Dec 2018 #37

From all accounts (i.e. her staff quoted in that article) she isn't primarying Dems Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #38

I hope she's not mcar Dec 2018 #40

But She Did In The Recent Election Didn't SHe? Me. Dec 2018 #52

Obviously. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #63

Her Next Election Will Tell The Story Me. Dec 2018 #74

Exactly! Andy823 Dec 2018 #80

And He, Hakeem Jeffries Is Very Popular In His District Me. Dec 2018 #81

So was Joe Crowley oberliner Dec 2018 #95

It's how she won her seat oberliner Dec 2018 #94

We have yet to see if it helped mcar Dec 2018 #96

Helped in what sense? oberliner Dec 2018 #118

Well Here You Are Again Me. Dec 2018 #50

From what I've read and heard, Justice Democrats... Stellar Dec 2018 #71

I Believe Senator Sanders Took PAC Money Me. Dec 2018 #77

Good question Andy823 Dec 2018 #83

I really don't know, this info is from Open Secrets... Stellar Dec 2018 #98

I Looked At OPen SEcrets Specifically For Him Me. Dec 2018 #99

Exactly... Stellar Dec 2018 #116

Jeffries is not old, but he is black, so what's your point? nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #59

Heh heh heh. Ya know that Jeffries also got in office by chalanging a sitting Dem right? progressoid Dec 2018 #51

So Did She Me. Dec 2018 #53

I think it was Crowley and Jeffries targeting Barbara Lee womanofthehills Dec 2018 #85

If So That To Me Would Be As Out Of Bounds Me. Dec 2018 #86

Politico stands by their reporting.. Cha Dec 2018 #119

Regardless Of How aSome Feel About Her Me. Dec 2018 #120

Primary challenges cut both ways Blaukraut Dec 2018 #3

Exactly. She'll be up for re-election in two years also. brush Dec 2018 #4

Hakeem Jeffries obviously isn't in her district, but he likely has EffieBlack Dec 2018 #9

Yeah, she needs to just learn the ropes, do her job and keep her name out of the hedlines... brush Dec 2018 #60

"What makes her think she's a kingmaker?" NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #48

The TV media. Nt lostnfound Dec 2018 #115

Crowley is busy spending all his PAC money on trips to "horseracing tracks, high end restaurants, et womanofthehills Dec 2018 #92

Thanks for the update but what about AOC's alleged kingmaking? brush Dec 2018 #93

Interesting... disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #117

No wonder the voters tossed him out on his ear. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #122

It's all about Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #5

Eh......WTF? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #6

Wonder how she will gain friendship and trust in Congress to help get legislation passed. She seaglass Dec 2018 #7

I am caused to wonder how her supporters will defend this. Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #8

Defend what? A hit piece from politico filled with anonymous sources? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #11

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #14

If, as you suggest, this is a made up story, all she has to do is deny it. brooklynite Dec 2018 #17

Too bad she didn't have some staff that could speak for her. Maybe they could call the position... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #18

Actually, the correct answer would be... brooklynite Dec 2018 #19

I thought you wanted her to deny it? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #22

Yes, SHE can...her Congressional Staff cannot brooklynite Dec 2018 #30

Why does she have a staff, then? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #34

Her communications director is doing his job. Autumn Dec 2018 #41

Actually, AOC's communications director denied that AOC has recruited a candidate to run Autumn Dec 2018 #28

And you were certainly free to quote it as you did EffieBlack Dec 2018 #20

Not sure what you are on about but it should be relatively easy to see that I was responding.... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #21

My bad - I thought you were responding to me EffieBlack Dec 2018 #24

+1 Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #49

You didn't have to wait long, did you? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #13

Sooooo predictable. Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #15

Indeed Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #23

Looks more like rats to me Autumn Dec 2018 #44

Interesting edit job there melman Dec 2018 #10

Not "interesting" at all - EffieBlack Dec 2018 #12

you mean the part where her spokesman denied she was recruiting someone to challenge Jefferies? bigtree Dec 2018 #29

Without your own spin, you'd be motionless. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #45

Let's see, Crowley was #5, Pelosi is #1, and Jeffries is #4 ucrdem Dec 2018 #16

what? AOC supported Pelosi when it came down to it. Deals were struck with the new progressives. nt JCanete Dec 2018 #25

I'll bet JustAnotherGen Dec 2018 #26

hey if Politico says so, it must be true bigtree Dec 2018 #27

Thank you nt Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #105

I wish wryter2000 Dec 2018 #31

There's not a single "word" from her in that article by Politico Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #39

Hakeem Jeffries won like 94% of the vote in our district. Cha Dec 2018 #32

I really do not like the Just Us Democrats Gothmog Dec 2018 #47

What's to like? Divisive Cha Dec 2018 #55

I stopped paying attention to Cenk a long time ago Gothmog Dec 2018 #58

I hope this isn't true. I like Jeffries ecstatic Dec 2018 #35

She thinks she's a kingmaker, apparently mcar Dec 2018 #36

To all those complaining about "politico".. this is from Cha Dec 2018 #42

My gut tells me this would not be a great idea. But he won his seat by primarying a Dem incumbent Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #43

this bigtree Dec 2018 #56

IMO it wasn't smart for AOC to campaign out of her district, and state... brush Dec 2018 #66

The Just Us or Justice Democrats are after Jeffries Gothmog Dec 2018 #46

The BLUE WAVE DEMS who Cha Dec 2018 #62

I am a bit disappointed with Sharice Davids. She campaigned as a progressive Celerity Dec 2018 #76

Yeah, you're not going to try and smear Cha Dec 2018 #84

It is not a smear, she joined the New Democrat Coalition Celerity Dec 2018 #88

So What? Sharice Davids is doing a Brilliant Cha Dec 2018 #89

She isnt even a sworn-in voting member of Congress yet, so we cannot Celerity Dec 2018 #90

Sharice Davids Flipped a red seat BLUE. Cha Dec 2018 #91

Thanks Cha. Some of our fellow Democrats don't understand what it takes to flip a red seat blue. redstateblues Dec 2018 #104

You're Cha Dec 2018 #108

Yes. It sucks. I would take any kind of Democrat- blue dog, yellow dog whatever. redstateblues Dec 2018 #110

I hear Ya! Virtual Hugs.. Cha Dec 2018 #111

You're the best doll. fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #121

flea! Cha Dec 2018 #123

So depressing to see two young POC Democrats like AOC and Jeffries being minimized Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #54

I'm glad this was debunked Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #106

It was denied, not debunked. ucrdem Dec 2018 #107

She needs to cool her wheels--her *training* wheels--and quit targeting good Dems. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #57

Not so simple - it's more complex - womanofthehills Dec 2018 #67

I see. It is more complicated than I was aware of. Cooling my own wheels now. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #72

Per the Intercept it's all about Bernie: ucrdem Dec 2018 #109

LOVE to see the whining from the right! RandiFan1290 Dec 2018 #61

No, you don't "see the whining from the right". Cha Dec 2018 #64

You know when the right uses lies and innuendos to smear her she's Autumn Dec 2018 #70

Pretty poor article. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #65

Cenk wants big corporate money out of the picture but this is really all about Rep. Barbara Lee womanofthehills Dec 2018 #68

Cenk wants money in his pockets. He doesn't care where else it goes. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #69

I don't care what cenk wants.. Cha Dec 2018 #87

Why is this article any more credible than the Politico one? dansolo Dec 2018 #112

Thanks for the heads up on the UPDATE! Cha Dec 2018 #114

Rep. Joe Crowley's (D-NY) staff denied that the outgoing Cha Dec 2018 #113

More Politico division. What crap. pwb Dec 2018 #73

Laura Barrn-Lpez covers Democrats for the Washington Examiner. oberliner Dec 2018 #82

This story has: - Not a SINGLE named or verifiable source oberliner Dec 2018 #75

You noticed that too. The author quotes himself. pwb Dec 2018 #78

I was suspicious of the article when I saw it was Politico Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #79

AOC called this article out as a junk article, bird cage lining as her Dad called it. Autumn Dec 2018 #97

Thanks, Autumn. elleng Dec 2018 #102

Thank you very little for posting this article without highlighting its problems. nt greyl Dec 2018 #100

Not true. Take this down or edit 'headline.' elleng Dec 2018 #101

Perhaps She Should Get Sworn in First dlk Dec 2018 #103