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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
52. How is saying someone is a woman any different than saying they are working class or from Scranton?
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 10:52 AM
Dec 2018

Or that they are part of the 1 percent? All of these are non-objective factors that help to make people who they are.

The idea that we consider all kinds of subjective criteria to help us determine whether we will support or not support someone but race or gender are completely off limits is, in my view, disingenuous and hypocritical.

I also strongly believe that anyone who claims that they don't "see" someone's race or gender are either lying or lack self-awareness. It also suggests that they not see the whole person.

Being an African-American woman has been one of the defining aspects of my life. It's affected how I am treated, how I am viewed and how I have had to navigate the world. So, when someone tells me that they don't see my race and gender - when, I know good and well that they do since that's my most obvious physical characteristic - I think they're either full of sh!t or completely clueless about their environment.

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Of course, goes without saying but I guess it doesnt. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #1
True, but I think that's a moot point right now. ecstatic Dec 2018 #2
As long as people are discussing potential candidates, my point is not moot EffieBlack Dec 2018 #3
Curiosity compels me to ask... druidity33 Dec 2018 #4
No EffieBlack Dec 2018 #5
Absolutely Effie. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #6
You nailed it! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #13
If the party accepted the reverse. Democrats would never win. rogue emissary Dec 2018 #7
K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #8
And women have voted for male presidential candidates mcar Dec 2018 #9
You're exactly right. EffieBlack Dec 2018 #14
This. K&R JHan Dec 2018 #10
Exactly Afromania Dec 2018 #11
What gets me is the thread from yesterday with a allegedly well researched finding... brush Dec 2018 #12
But some Democrats just don't see color or gender! johnp3907 Dec 2018 #15
With Democrats like that, who needs Republicans? violetpastille Dec 2018 #17
It needs to be strongly stressed that the most qualified candidate that can be elected should LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #16
What constitutes "qualified"? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #18
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2018 #19
Hear! Hear! Kick, Rec and BRAVA! Stinky The Clown Dec 2018 #20
A different view question everything Dec 2018 #21
No, a majority of white voters did not vote for Obama EffieBlack Dec 2018 #30
The truth is - I voted for him because I would always vote for the Democratic candidate question everything Dec 2018 #34
That's everyone EffieBlack Dec 2018 #36
She has been active progressively her whole life, even before marrying Bill. question everything Dec 2018 #38
Republicans think this way IronLionZion Dec 2018 #22
Of course you are right. potone Dec 2018 #23
K/R'ed LovingA2andMI Dec 2018 #24
I'm really like Kamala Harris; but I wish WhiteTara Dec 2018 #25
That's why the Repubs couldn't allow her to win... Wounded Bear Dec 2018 #28
Of course, she is very powerful. WhiteTara Dec 2018 #33
I was struck on Election Night EffieBlack Dec 2018 #37
It is a bit of a double edged sword, isn't... Wounded Bear Dec 2018 #26
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #27
A-fuckin'-men. Basement Beat Dec 2018 #29
K&R betsuni Dec 2018 #31
Voting for white presidential candidates people Dec 2018 #32
Awesome post! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #35
K&R PunkinPi Dec 2018 #39
This pasty old white guy sellitman Dec 2018 #40
Several factual misstatements in the OP Bucky Dec 2018 #41
What exactly in my OP were "factual misstatements" EffieBlack Dec 2018 #42
I do use race and gender as metrics when considering my vote. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #43
Very interesting take. Thanks! EffieBlack Dec 2018 #44
Thank you for hosting such a conversation. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #45
Can we get Obama back? Like, for life? Nt lostnfound Dec 2018 #46
Let this old white lady get in her two cents worth dem in texas Dec 2018 #47
"for the pushback I see against suggestions that the Dems should try to include a minority candidat" LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #48
I'm not aware of anyone who selects a candidate SOLELY because they are a minority EffieBlack Dec 2018 #50
"having their race be considered as an attribute" LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #51
How is saying someone is a woman any different than saying they are working class or from Scranton? EffieBlack Dec 2018 #52
I see that you are an African-American woman because you have said so. LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #53
How does being from Scranton or being young or not being wealthy EffieBlack Dec 2018 #54
I don't think I have said a person's origin, age or income bracket can make them qualified or not. LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #55
I vote a straight Democratic ticket, ALWAYS! oldlibdem Dec 2018 #49
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