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pecosbob

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18. Ostensibly we are in Syria and Iraq to fight Sunni terrorists (ISIS or Daesh) on behalf of Iraq

Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:00 PM

Dec 2018

To continue to do so while we support their paymasters (Salman al Saud, et al.) is self-defeating. Assad of Syria wants ISIS defeated as Syria is a Shiaa majority state and supports their neighbor, Iran, another Shiia-majority state. Iran supports the new Iraqi state which is also Shiia majority and also finances groups that are fighting in various Sunni states. The Saudis, Turkey and Israel (at least Likud) and Exxon all want a war with Iran and all foment the civil war in Syria. So were sitting in the middle of a proxy war with Russia supporting Syria and Iran while all the Sunni states (with the exception of Quatar) covertly support ISIS and would like to see control of Iraq return to the Sunnis and probably wouldn't mind seeing Assad removed from power.

So my long-winded point is that we're supporting Assad in a roundabout way by fighting ISIS at the same time we're helping to finance ISIS by supporting the Saudis. Sounds pretty dumb to me...

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What is everyone's position on keeping troops in Syria? [View all] oberliner Dec 2018 OP

Ultimately we should get out. drray23 Dec 2018 #1

What would be a good potential exit strategy? oberliner Dec 2018 #2

No idea. I'm not a military strategist or diplomat. drray23 Dec 2018 #4

I would posit that the people who are 'experts' on this have no idea what they are doing. pangaia Dec 2018 #6

You would posit wrong. drray23 Dec 2018 #8

People who actually know what's going on shanny Dec 2018 #26

I know trump announced it. pangaia Dec 2018 #35

+++ There's a difference between having an exit strategy,leaving a building through a door.. JHan Dec 2018 #56

It's a Hobson's choice. Turbineguy Dec 2018 #3

No. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #5

What is yours? Hekate Dec 2018 #7

I don't think it is important to keep US troops in Syria oberliner Dec 2018 #10

To keep tabs on the Ruskies? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #11

2018 worst year in Syria's humanitarian crisis: U.N. official oberliner Dec 2018 #15

So do we stay there to back up the UN with military support? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #19

Personally, I do not see the value in US troops being there oberliner Dec 2018 #42

To keep that lunatic Assad from genociding his own people. Volaris Dec 2018 #55

Should never have been in there rockfordfile Dec 2018 #9

It does not take a lot of troops in Syria to limit some of the more heinous acts. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #12

I am a pacifist. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #13

I am pacifist too. violetpastille Dec 2018 #28

Our secret..... Shhhhhh..... BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #29

C.O. since before Vietnam. Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #51

I just learned something. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #52

Hmm. I know i was listed w the church myself, but, Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #53

It probably won't change much. ucrdem Dec 2018 #14

Like everything else DFT has done, you can't shoot from the hip RainCaster Dec 2018 #16

Irrespective of that oberliner Dec 2018 #17

Ostensibly we are in Syria and Iraq to fight Sunni terrorists (ISIS or Daesh) on behalf of Iraq pecosbob Dec 2018 #18

I think we should stay. Mosby Dec 2018 #20

who are "the opposition"? Assad? shanny Dec 2018 #27

our presence in the north is important Mosby Dec 2018 #31

Aren't the Turks the ones who are attacking the Kurds? oberliner Dec 2018 #40

thats what I meant, just poorly written Mosby Dec 2018 #50

Maybe bad for the Kurds. moondust Dec 2018 #21

The Turkish forces seem to be attacking the Kurds anyway oberliner Dec 2018 #39

"blatant betrayal" moondust Dec 2018 #43

Obama was accused of betraying the Kurds in 2014 oberliner Dec 2018 #44

Well, moondust Dec 2018 #46

I understand the POV of the Kurds oberliner Dec 2018 #47

Syria, Turkey and Russia wants us out. Xolodno Dec 2018 #22

I am no pacifist and a moderate by DU standards. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #23

Get them out Alea Dec 2018 #24

I notice you post a great deal and yet you don't have a star membership tavernier Dec 2018 #25

I try to click on the ads a lot oberliner Dec 2018 #38

We have to protect our allies the Kurds PaulX2 Dec 2018 #30

Turkish assault on Kurdish militia in Syria has 'killed 24 civilians' oberliner Dec 2018 #32

We leave and the Turks Chuuku Davis Dec 2018 #33

Isn't Turkey a NATO ally? oberliner Dec 2018 #37

they should be kicked out of nato imo. nt Mosby Dec 2018 #57

I am pro-Kurds Lithos Dec 2018 #34

Could we prevent that from happening without having troops there? oberliner Dec 2018 #36

Do not think so Lithos Dec 2018 #54

Your thoughts? Lithos Dec 2018 #58

I just don't really understand what the US military strategy is in Syria oberliner Dec 2018 #59

The US entered to fight ISIS Lithos Dec 2018 #60

We were down to 2,200 troops. Just over a third of what Trump sent to the Mexican border Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #41

I don't know, but if we leave Downtown Hound Dec 2018 #45

My thought is bluestarone Dec 2018 #48

Trump handed Syria to Russia and Iran DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #49