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Tommy_Carcetti

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18. Contrarians.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:48 AM

Dec 2018

You gotta love them.

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Reminder: Mattis is awful [View all] oberliner Dec 2018 OP

And Skidmore Dec 2018 #1

Trump is awful / Mattis is awful oberliner Dec 2018 #4

Hmmm. If a equals b, and b' equals c then a equals c............... still_one Dec 2018 #7

Frustrates me to hear people singing the Mattis praises on MSNBC / CNN oberliner Dec 2018 #11

You should have put this in your OP, it would have helped buttress your position Celerity Dec 2018 #37

Ironic isn't it still_one Dec 2018 #44

I agreed with a "Sorry, he shouldn't get to play martyr or victim or principled opponent now." Autumn Dec 2018 #86

measure of degrees of awful-ness. Javaman Dec 2018 #25

Which has nothing to do with his abrupt resignation. MineralMan Dec 2018 #2

It has to do with people who are praising him as "the adult in the room" oberliner Dec 2018 #5

He's a conservative military guy. No surprise there. MineralMan Dec 2018 #16

WOW DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #22

Is that a good WOW or a bad WOW? MineralMan Dec 2018 #27

It's a good WOW. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #31

Whew! MineralMan Dec 2018 #34

Another very good wow headed your way. saidsimplesimon Dec 2018 #45

+1 nt Skidmore Dec 2018 #49

That was a masterful takedown, MineralMan. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #32

Indeed it was oberliner Dec 2018 #63

+1000 ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #102

+1. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2018 #57

Mattis defends border deployment, likens it to 1916 effort against Pancho Villa oberliner Dec 2018 #60

So? What point do you think you're making here, oberliner? MineralMan Dec 2018 #64

Mattis is awful oberliner Dec 2018 #65

Uh, no. That's not the point you're trying to make. MineralMan Dec 2018 #68

Yes, it is oberliner Dec 2018 #117

To what end? Adrahil Dec 2018 #96

Agree 100%. Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #112

your posts have been spot on. +++ JHan Dec 2018 #119

Well said n/t emulatorloo Dec 2018 #87

Wow this is a truth bomb. SPOT ON. BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #104

Well spotted, well said. Maybe someone needs a new stir-stick for Yule. Hekate Dec 2018 #106

Thanks! MineralMan Dec 2018 #108

Contrarians. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #18

No, actually I don't gotta love 'em. MineralMan Dec 2018 #20

I think loving contrarians drives them crazy. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #29

Contrarian? No way. Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #83

+1000 smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #61

You are wide awake today Hekate Dec 2018 #109

I completely disagree oberliner Dec 2018 #67

LOL, the Translation is "Leave Trumpy Alone..." FSogol Dec 2018 #3

Translation: Neocons like Bolton, Mattis, et al are also 100 percent awful oberliner Dec 2018 #6

Having one competent person in the WH does not equal "everyone likes him." FSogol Dec 2018 #36

I'm hearing a lot of praise for him on MSNBC/CNN oberliner Dec 2018 #69

Cool story, bro FSogol Dec 2018 #78

"It's like Deja vu all over again." DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #30

Bingo! Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #85

Pretty much. Let Trump off the hook emulatorloo Dec 2018 #92

Stupid OP YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #8

It is a fact that Mattis is awful oberliner Dec 2018 #9

Given the situation, it's a fact that the OP is stupid YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #15

I respectfully disagree oberliner Dec 2018 #59

Respectfully disagree. In these Orwellian times, G_j Dec 2018 #105

Shades of grey. Awful vs maniacally insane. uppityperson Dec 2018 #10

Fair enough - but the anti-Trump wing of the Republican party is also very bad and dangerous oberliner Dec 2018 #14

Running with scissors in your hand is also very bad and dangerous. uppityperson Dec 2018 #21

Can we just set our relationship status with Mattis to "It's Complicated"? Anon-C Dec 2018 #12

There is value in not losing sight of the awfulness of "normal Republicans" oberliner Dec 2018 #17

Point well taken. And it's good that you did! Anon-C Dec 2018 #41

It was all fun and games while campaigning and kissing up to this goddamn lunatic. What exactly Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2018 #13

Mattis never campaigned for Chump. That was Flynn. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #26

Oh that's right. The Moron just kept dropping his supposed nickname in campaign rallies. So Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2018 #47

Not to be argumentative but Mattis made no endorsement. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #51

Never said "endorsement". But I can't imagine anyone arguing that he did not support him. Given Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2018 #58

Who on DU is arguing his angelic and divine praises? LanternWaste Dec 2018 #19

It's that Duer "StrawMan" MineralMan Dec 2018 #43

There is a "Jim Mattis appreciation thread" oberliner Dec 2018 #71

Yeah. No appreciation from here. Autumn Dec 2018 #98

It's why I will not join in on the "appreciation" threads. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #23

Reminder: Most Democratic leaders, like Joe Biden, disagree with you. highplainsdem Dec 2018 #24

He was approved by the Senate, 98-1. A lot of Democrats even liberal ones voted for him. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #28

Not Gillibrand! oberliner Dec 2018 #33

Is she the benchmark ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #39

She has voted against Trump's Cabinet appointees more times than any other senator oberliner Dec 2018 #55

Take a look at some of those past DU threads about Mattis if you have a chance oberliner Dec 2018 #35

Agreed melman Dec 2018 #38

Well said oberliner Dec 2018 #54

Hate him all you want... ADX Dec 2018 #40

This! +1 Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #52

Mattis is back to his Iran obsession.. (DU post from last Feb) oberliner Dec 2018 #53

Awful, yes Bettie Dec 2018 #42

Fair enough oberliner Dec 2018 #50

Mattis is a patriot, Trump is a traitor. shockey80 Dec 2018 #46

James Mattis is linked to a massive corporate fraud and nobody wants to talk about it oberliner Dec 2018 #48

That deserves a thread of its own. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #56

Here ya go oberliner Dec 2018 #62

Today. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #70

If you start one I will post a supportive reply! oberliner Dec 2018 #73

I like and admire the general DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #76

"Iran, Iran, Iran," Mattis told me. oberliner Dec 2018 #79

Do you think it's good for Israel to have an Iranian puppet on its border? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #80

So you're for war in Iran? melman Dec 2018 #91

If that is the inference you drew there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #94

Yeah it is melman Dec 2018 #95

Are there or are there not ways of deterring unwanted actions other than war? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #97

Context melman Dec 2018 #99

Mattis supported the Iran nuclear deal and tried to convince Trump not to abrogate it. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #100

"If you think Roy Moore won't win, you're delusional..." Quoted from you. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #84

Elizabeth Holmes managed to charm a whole lot of people MineralMan Dec 2018 #81

If it was so well-designed, why didn't you fall for it? maxsolomon Dec 2018 #113

Actually, I do, but that's a different issue. MineralMan Dec 2018 #114

my hope for Trump's con has been the same. maxsolomon Dec 2018 #118

Well said... ADX Dec 2018 #66

Mattis was still an important check on trump Gothmog Dec 2018 #72

An adult in the room a la Donald Rumsfeld oberliner Dec 2018 #74

Ecological fallacy DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #89

In many ways he is like some of the leading Never Trumpers Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #75

Mattis is basically Rumsfeld oberliner Dec 2018 #77

+1 DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #103

People need to quit making Mattis into a saint. He's not. Cousin Dupree Dec 2018 #82

Nobody here said he was a saint emulatorloo Dec 2018 #90

Mattis did a good thing by resigning Progressive dog Dec 2018 #88

Mattis was a battlefield commander. Adrahil Dec 2018 #93

I think Trump picked him primarily because of his nickname. klook Dec 2018 #107

Likely. He HATED that nickname. Adrahil Dec 2018 #116

Nearly everyone looks good against I-1 ananda Dec 2018 #101

I respectfully disagree with this one-word "description". nt TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #110

His nickname was Colonel C.H.A.O.S. donkeypoofed Dec 2018 #111

Agree with you on all points, donk... tavernier Dec 2018 #115