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PhrankT

(113 posts)
2. President Obama's Green New Deal as well.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:18 PM
Dec 2018

Friedman’s ideas made it into the mainstream the following year when presidential candidate Barack Obama added a Green New Deal to his platform.
In 2009,
the United Nations drafted a report calling for a Global Green New Deal to focus government stimulus on renewable energy projects.

A month later, Democrats’ landmark cap-and-trade bill — meant to set up a market where companies could buy and sell pollution permits and take a conservative first step toward limiting carbon dioxide emissions — passed in the House with the promise of spurring $150 billion in clean energy investments and creating 1.7 million good-paying jobs.

But, by 2010, austerity politics hit.
The cap-and-trade bill, known as the American Clean Energy and Security Act, died in the Senate.



In Britain, the Labor Party, acting on a proposal that a team of economists calling themselves the Green New Deal Group drafted, established a government-run green investment bank to bolster renewable energy — only for the conservative Tories to sweep into office months later and begin the process of privatizing the nascent institution.

Balanced budgets and deficit hysteria became the dogma of governments across the developed world.
Talk of a Green New Deal withered on the vine.



Great Post
It is really interesting to read the history of the Green New Deal, the attempts by Democrats in the US as well as the Labor Party in UK to bring about such positive green deals, only to be stopped, predictably, by the conservative Torries in UK and the Republicans in the US Senate.

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yea.. none of those ideas are new nini Dec 2018 #1
None of the proposals in this plan are original Gothmog Dec 2018 #25
Been part of the Dem platform for years, just as many of the ideas of a certain senator... brush Dec 2018 #26
The New Deal isn't new either, but many of us could use one. DemocracyMouse Dec 2018 #83
President Obama's Green New Deal as well. PhrankT Dec 2018 #2
K&R betsuni Dec 2018 #3
Thank You, George.. for the origins of The New Green Cha Dec 2018 #4
Actually someone sent me that article earlier today. Figured we were due a little dose of reality. George II Dec 2018 #5
Definitely need a dose of reality around here. Cha Dec 2018 #6
Where is the problem? DemocracyMouse Dec 2018 #86
I'm grateful the OP posted Cha Dec 2018 #89
The history is helpful, but it was framed negatively. DemocracyMouse Dec 2018 #91
I seem to recall VP Al Gore speaking up about climate change mcar Dec 2018 #7
Yes indeed, and Jimmy Carter was ahead of the curve, too. As President.... George II Dec 2018 #8
Forgot about Carter's good work mcar Dec 2018 #9
+1 betsuni Dec 2018 #14
A lot of it is cribbed from Martin O'Malley's plans from his last run for the WH. FSogol Dec 2018 #10
That's all from 2016, but Obama was all over it seven years earlier in 2009. George II Dec 2018 #11
Yeah, like clean coal. progressoid Dec 2018 #19
WTF? George II Dec 2018 #23
I thought we were talking about green energy and stuff re: Obama progressoid Dec 2018 #74
Henry David Thoreau was pushing green thinking over a century ago... DemocracyMouse Dec 2018 #90
Lol Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #35
Is snark the only thing you have to offer, as if there were no green initiatives... brush Dec 2018 #52
Yeah, I guess in the day of trump it's okay to take shots at President Obama. Such is life. George II Dec 2018 #75
Sorry, I just get the memo. progressoid Dec 2018 #97
Mentioning clean coal and Obama is a pot shot? Autumn Dec 2018 #102
Apparently it is. progressoid Dec 2018 #107
You know you're though the looking glass when mentioning what a Dem Autumn Dec 2018 #109
Just taking cues from the OP. progressoid Dec 2018 #106
Is that all ya got? That's the only "insult" Cha Dec 2018 #64
Any chance he will try again? question everything Dec 2018 #12
Don't know. This appears to be the age of the amateur and rhetoric FSogol Dec 2018 #20
Not even a little bit. ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #13
Oh snap! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #15
PS sheshe2 Dec 2018 #16
You too! ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #27
I also don't see where Castor outright dismissed it. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #17
It's the usual propaganda meant to divide us. herding cats Dec 2018 #18
That's my take as well. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #21
+1 betsuni Dec 2018 #22
If not divide us, dilute the opposition. We have to make sure it doesn't work this time around. George II Dec 2018 #24
AOS IS us. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #87
I'm going to be very clear here. herding cats Dec 2018 #93
Duh! Who ever thought it was new? KPN Dec 2018 #28
Some are acting like they just came up with the idea recently. George II Dec 2018 #30
The young are taking responsibility, since they will actually have to live in that hellish world. irresistable Dec 2018 #34
No they're actually not melman Dec 2018 #37
Exactly. Some are making shit up. nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #60
Oh? Or is it more like some are acting like they assume some are acting like they just came up KPN Dec 2018 #41
Links please? nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #61
No one ever thought it was something new. Remember, rain is wet. Autumn Dec 2018 #31
Nobody melman Dec 2018 #36
BINGO! KPN Dec 2018 #40
And it's so funny that the OP thinks this is some big 'aha!' or something melman Dec 2018 #51
this thread confirms the need for a renewed, energetic focus, which AOC brings to the table bigtree Dec 2018 #38
You are absolutely right. In a way, behaviorally, it reminds me of 45s stance on the Wall. KPN Dec 2018 #42
Representative-elect Cortez wasn't even mentioned in the OP. George II Dec 2018 #44
clever. bigtree Dec 2018 #46
.. George II Dec 2018 #47
Well aren't you the coy one. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #88
A special committee dedicated to a Green New Deal with subpoena power would be a good thing. irresistable Dec 2018 #29
This was Hillary's platform in 2016. yardwork Dec 2018 #32
just one more reason why we should take action now irresistable Dec 2018 #33
So why the obvious put down of young folks bringing a renewed focus on it? KPN Dec 2018 #43
??? Where have I put down young folks? yardwork Dec 2018 #56
Crickets. Cha Dec 2018 #65
Chirp, chirp, chirp. KPN Dec 2018 #68
uh huh. Cha Dec 2018 #84
Did I say you? No, I didn't. KPN Dec 2018 #67
"So why the obvious put down..." yardwork Dec 2018 #99
There you go again. Did I say you? KPN Dec 2018 #100
I'm not the OP. You seem really confused. yardwork Dec 2018 #101
I'll answer that with another question then. KPN Dec 2018 #105
I was responding to the OP, not you. yardwork Dec 2018 #110
Oh brother. KPN Dec 2018 #111
Trying hard to see what its actual legislative goals were. ucrdem Dec 2018 #39
Oh, so you approve of the catchy meme, just not their use of it? KPN Dec 2018 #45
"Keep up or step aside" ucrdem Dec 2018 #70
Yes. It was never a real program but a platform to attack Democrats from. Hortensis Dec 2018 #62
Exactly, not unlike the Wall Street meme ucrdem Dec 2018 #66
I am so glad that President Obama pushed for these programs Gothmog Dec 2018 #48
cap-and-trade (House passed) died in the Democratic-controlled Senate bigtree Dec 2018 #50
You need 60 votes in Senate Gothmog Dec 2018 #63
that's not the point bigtree Dec 2018 #72
What was the point of attempting to blame the "Democratic-controlled" Senate for betsuni Dec 2018 #77
missed the point completely bigtree Dec 2018 #78
Jump in? My first comment was #3. I've been following this thread. betsuni Dec 2018 #79
you must be talking to yourself in the post directed at me, the one that wasn't directed to you bigtree Dec 2018 #80
Wut. betsuni Dec 2018 #81
blocked bigtree Dec 2018 #82
Lucky You, betsuni! Cha Dec 2018 #85
And it's my first time! Nobody has ever wanted to block me before. betsuni Dec 2018 #95
lol.. well you did Cha Dec 2018 #96
He did. I agree. So why can't AOC and KPN Dec 2018 #69
These are not new programs and she should give President Obama credit for using his ideas Gothmog Dec 2018 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Dec 2018 #73
Ha! Cha Dec 2018 #94
Okay, so again, who said they were new? I didn't hear that from KPN Dec 2018 #98
But one deserving of support? oberliner Dec 2018 #49
That's a good question melman Dec 2018 #54
Of course it does, and Democrats have been supporting this for decades. Remember Al Gore? George II Dec 2018 #55
Actually Nixon was pro-environment before Gore Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #59
No one compares to Al Gore on this issue. Speaking R B Garr Dec 2018 #103
But the same resource industry billionaires, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #53
Obamacare wasn't original either. Few things are. Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #57
Nobody said it was.. but it got passed and Cha Dec 2018 #58
Politicians aren't looking for copyrights... HopeAgain Dec 2018 #76
MOST politicians aren't looking for copyrights. George II Dec 2018 #92
K&R! Great info. Thanks to Friedman and thanks to you R B Garr Dec 2018 #104
Well it's not like FDR invented Keynesian economics Bucky Dec 2018 #108
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