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In reply to the discussion: What motivates the outrage over Julian Assange's Political Asylum? [View all]reorg
(3,317 posts)of the case.
Yes, the main allegation by the women (Ardin: allegation #2; Wilen: #4) is about condom use, allegation #2 is specifically about the "broken condom" (see below).
Since you seem to believe the alleged acts would be considered rape in pretty much any civilized country, surely you must be able to provide an example of such cases where a comparable scenario has led to a conviction of rape.
Here is the relevant part of Sofia Wilén's police interview, based on and during which the interviewing police officer notified a junior prosecutor who was the stand-in for the weekend over the phone that Assange was a rape suspect, upon which the stand-in prosecutor immediately issued an arrest warrant. (When Wilén became aware of this, she refused to continue with the interview, BTW). Two days later, the Chief Prosecutor Eva Finné withdrew the arrest warrant and dropped the case, not finding anything worthwhile to investigate in this:
The Assault
They sat on the bed and talked and he took off her clothes again. They had sex again and she discovered he'd put the condom only over the head of his penis but she let it be. They fell asleep and she woke by feeling him penetrate her. She immediately asked 'are you wearing anything' and he answered 'you'. She told him 'you better not have HIV' and he replied 'of course not'. She felt it was too late. He was already inside her and she let him continue. She couldn't be bothered telling him again. She'd been nagging about condoms all night long. She's never had unprotected sex. ...
http://rixstep.com/1/20110131,00.shtml
Here is where Ardin describes allegation #2, the condom issue:
After a while Assange ejaculates inside her and thereafter withdraws. Anna saw that the condom didn't have semen in it when Assange took it off. When Anna began moving her body she noticed how things were running out of her vagina. Anna understood rather quickly that it must be Assange's semen. She pointed this out for Assange but he denied this and told her it was she who was wet with her own juices. Anna is convinced that Assange, when he withdrew from her the first time, deliberately broke the condom at the tip and thereafter continued the sex with the resulting ejaculation. In answer to a question Anna says she didn't look closer at the condom, if it was broken as she thought, but she says she thinks she still has the condom at home and will look at it. ...
http://rixstep.com/1/20110204,02.shtml
Police interview with Assange regarding allegation #2:
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MG: The accusation is the condom, a condom, was damaged after the act and Anna is of the opinion that at one point when you withdraw your penis there was a sound like you first removed the condom but when you entered her again she reached down and felt and she could feel you still had the condom on. Then you ejaculated and she feels amongst other things that she has semen in her. And she looks at the condom and there's no semen in the condom. And so the question to you, is this a situation you recognise in any way?
JA: No. At one point Anna pointed to the bed which had a wet spot. And said, look at that. And said, is that you? I said, no it has to be you. And we didn't talk about it anymore, at all, not at all. Until the accusations on Friday, a week later. ...
http://rixstep.com/1/20110130,01.shtml
Further transcripts at: http://rixstep.com/1/20110204,04.shtml