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4. Philip Bump from April: Why Cohen visiting Prague would be remarkably significant.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 02:08 PM
Dec 2018
Philip Bump @pbump 2h2 hours ago
From April: Why Cohen visiting Prague would be remarkably significant.

It suggests that Cohen took over management of the relationship with Russia after campaign chairman Paul Manafort was fired from the campaign in August (because of questions about his relationship with a political party in Ukraine). Cohen is said to have met secretly with people in Prague — possibly at the Russian Center for Science and Culture — in the last week of August or the first of September. He allegedly met with representatives of the Russian government, possibly including officials of the Presidential Administration Legal Department; Oleg Solodukhin (who works with the Russian Center for Science and Culture); or Konstantin Kosachev, head of the foreign relations committee in the upper house of parliament. A planned meeting in Moscow, the dossier alleges, was considered too risky, given that a topic of conversation was how to divert attention from Manafort’s links to Russia and a trip to Moscow by Carter Page in July. Another topic of conversation, according to the dossier: allegedly paying off “Romanian hackers” who had been targeting the Clinton campaign...

Cohen showed his passport to BuzzFeed. The only travel into the proper area indicated by passport stamps was a trip to and from Italy from July 9 to 17. But note that this is too early for Steele’s time frame — and for the assertion that it was a response to the firing of Manafort. How Cohen would have gotten to Prague is still unclear.

But this contradiction between a clear allegation from the Steele dossier and the assertion that it wasn’t true by Cohen and Trump helped drive the idea that the dossier was broadly discredited shortly after its release. Pick out the Prague trip and nothing that follows could have happened. Put the Prague trip back into the mix? A lot of the other parts of that allegation now become possible.* What’s more, it undermines the credibility of those who insisted that the claim was completely without merit.

Look at it another way: If the central conceit of the Steele’s claim were accurate — that Cohen was working with agents of the Russian government directly to aid Trump’s candidacy — it would be very hard to argue that no collusion took place. That likely requires Cohen’s having been in Prague.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/14/michael-cohen-visiting-prague-would-be-a-huge-development-in-the-russia-investigation/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.00e73df19049

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Ted Lieu: COLLUSION! [View all] bigtree Dec 2018 OP
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's side leaked this to get ahead of it. manor321 Dec 2018 #1
They're Not That Smart OMGWTF Dec 2018 #41
Conspiracy to defraud the United States of America. This is the charge, right DU lawyers? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #2
Yet, the right still says they see no evidence. Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #3
To be fair, they only watch fox and breitbart so they actually havent seen any other than Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #5
+1, this is 75% of the reason they support him imho !!! uponit7771 Dec 2018 #34
Philip Bump from April: Why Cohen visiting Prague would be remarkably significant. bigtree Dec 2018 #4
How you know if they are lying, other than their lips are moving, is how adamant they are Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #6
some fixer bigtree Dec 2018 #7
So is the assumption that cohen has told mueller the truth about this and they have Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #9
I always take heed of what Ted says on Russia bigtree Dec 2018 #16
And THIS is why he said it Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #18
Prob used it stupidly, like calling his apartment or office phone to check for messages. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #15
If he just turned on the phone, to perhaps check his contacts list, the phone CharleyDog Dec 2018 #29
kinda but not really. mopinko Dec 2018 #27
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #26
Seeking out the help of an American adversary who says they are at war with us. ffr Dec 2018 #8
Maybe not treason, but possibly Rebellion or insurrection Xipe Totec Dec 2018 #13
Lieu 2020!!! Catch2.2 Dec 2018 #10
Unfortunately hes Taiwanese American Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #24
Even Trump's internet troll pals will have no response Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #11
I am assuming Cohen told all that to Mueller already? AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #12
Right, so Mueller already knows all of this. Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #30
I am sure that had Mueller humbled_opinion Dec 2018 #39
Has Cohen admitted to the Prague trip? Renew Deal Dec 2018 #14
No he hasn't. In fact Lani Davis doubled down on the no trip to Prague OnDoutside Dec 2018 #17
Natasha Bertrand weighed in on Lanny's denials bigtree Dec 2018 #19
Thanks, that's very interesting. OnDoutside Dec 2018 #42
Didn't Cohen's wife go with him to Europe that summer? FakeNoose Dec 2018 #46
One thing we can be sure, is that Mueller knows it all. It's going to come out. OnDoutside Dec 2018 #47
I Love Ted Lieu! calimary Dec 2018 #20
Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Dec 2018 #21
Kick dalton99a Dec 2018 #22
Kick. Tactical Peek Dec 2018 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2018 #25
...a lonely German from Prague! 0rganism Dec 2018 #28
1+ alfredo Dec 2018 #37
I don't follow this. This is old news, isn't it? It's still not clear whether Cohen was in Prague? Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #31
COLLUSION....call it out. Hulk Dec 2018 #32
Why are folks leaking this info? hughee99 Dec 2018 #33
Yes. Google "Trump Traitor" alfredo Dec 2018 #40
Please be true ! Pepsidog Dec 2018 #35
Investigation enid602 Dec 2018 #36
The righty's have lost it. humbled_opinion Dec 2018 #38
Maybe they're trying to distract us with Prague, to keep us from paying attention pnwmom Dec 2018 #43
Kick! red dog 1 Dec 2018 #44
He was using shooting someone in the middle of 5th Ave. as cover! czarjak Dec 2018 #45
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