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reformist2

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8. With SS, I'd throw it back at them and ask, does 'fully funded to 2038' sound like a crisis?

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:43 AM

Aug 2012

Also, to drive the point further, ask them if they remember the days when Repubs used to say that the Dems said everything was a crisis. Now look, it's the Repubs that are always saying the sky is falling.

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When some one says SS or MC will go broke [View all] safeinOhio Aug 2012 OP

Sorry but there is really no comparison. Defense is funded out of general revenues. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #1

I think after the 80s those funds safeinOhio Aug 2012 #2

That is why the funds are going broke! liberal N proud Aug 2012 #3

No it isn't Yo_Mama Aug 2012 #81

No, we are not dependent on foreign lending. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #84

This is a different issue Yo_Mama Aug 2012 #89

Actually, there is a surplus due to illegals who work but never draw SS. liberal N proud Aug 2012 #86

You're entirely wrong Yo_Mama Aug 2012 #87

Here is a link for you... liberal N proud Aug 2012 #93

They are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States doccraig67 Aug 2012 #91

The tax cuts for the rich have been funded from those IOUs as have the military JDPriestly Aug 2012 #77

Ha ha ha. That's funny. Did you actually miss the point or are you just being obtuse? geckosfeet Aug 2012 #4

It's a perfect comparison. Both are funded by tax dollars. Scuba Aug 2012 #5

Now THAT is the million dollar question. n/t 5X Aug 2012 #6

Go to the head of the class. Best question ever. marble falls Aug 2012 #10

Brilliant. LittleGirl Aug 2012 #12

Corporations. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #15

We are doing all those things. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #18

I must have this wrong, are you implying that we need to hyper-fund the MIC to buy votes? Dragonfli Aug 2012 #20

Not exactly. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #21

LOL tama Aug 2012 #26

Then it is too late to "win" anything, if they own us so completely, our party is theirs Dragonfli Aug 2012 #27

We got the ACA Health Care reform. We got birth control covered by health insurance. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #29

Did 'terror' surrender or something? I must have missed that coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #55

Yes but our operations continue around the world. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #60

I keep feeling like I'm missing some sarcasm tags with your comments. The coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #69

I actually think privatizing the space program was one of the smartest moves he could have made. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #76

We got Heritage foundation policy that shovels cash to those that only deny health care Dragonfli Aug 2012 #90

Well, aren't you the cutest thing ever? Oilwellian Aug 2012 #39

LOL you may laugh, but remember we can't get anything done if we don't win. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #43

You're exactly right! Oilwellian Aug 2012 #49

You make it sound like there is another choice. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #57

Oh, there is another choice we could go with Oilwellian Aug 2012 #80

The corporate world and the Progressive movement are anti-thetical to each other EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2012 #53

Really? Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #59

You make the assumption that I'm not working for the things that matter EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2012 #64

I'm not even saying it is a good thing. I'm just saying it is a fact of life. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #70

That's the attitude that perpetuates the maintanence of the status-quo EvolveOrConvolve Aug 2012 #78

Hmm tama Aug 2012 #28

No it is true. Just ask the members of the Congressinal Drone Caucus. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #30

Ugly mugs tama Aug 2012 #35

Defense spending is most certainly 'optional' - it's a shitty option, especially coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #52

Except in real life we support or we lose. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #56

Feeding them and Gorging them are two different things. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #79

! lonestarnot Aug 2012 #41

I agree Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2012 #58

+1000000000 HiPointDem Aug 2012 #83

What a dumb statement. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #16

There are a lot of people on this board that need to learn more about how A Simple Game Aug 2012 #22

"Medicare for All" is not realistic. There is no support for it. It is a radical fringe position. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #23

Three strikes! You're out. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2012 #24

And you are Obvious. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #32

I have no idea what you are talking about. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #33

Fingers broken? Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #38

So you think Medicare for All is realistic in the Untited States? Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #40

Straw Man. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #46

Hardly irrelevant. It is the view of the vast majority of Congress and the President. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #47

And every single one of those politicians could be replaced inside of six years. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #50

Well I don't have to assert it to strongly. I guess we just disagree. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #54

Enjoy your stay. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #65

Well it's realistic in many countries that are less prosperous than the US. You must have a very .. Scuba Aug 2012 #71

yep - Obvious is it. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #67

Wow. It's amazing so many developed countries do it. gollygee Aug 2012 #34

In the United States it is a fringe position. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #37

I don't think it's fringe gollygee Aug 2012 #44

It is a fringe posistion in Congress and among Presidential candidates. Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #45

I disagree completely gollygee Aug 2012 #48

If we want to get elected, Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #51

Yes, you and the other cons have all the money... Scuba Aug 2012 #73

Ackety! lonestarnot Aug 2012 #42

A slim majority of even Republican voters support, at minimum, a "public option". ronnie624 Aug 2012 #62

I'm talking about "fringe" as in "snowballs chance in hell of ever passing" Proud Corporate Dem Aug 2012 #63

We wouldn't want people to have what they want. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #68

alrighty then... fair is fair. Medicare For All or else Medicare For None. Medicare for Some? Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #66

Hrm...50-80% supporting it is "no support"? jeff47 Aug 2012 #85

"Proud Corporate Dem" YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #72

sorta sticks out, right Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #74

A nuked one :) pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #92

No. Eventually these programs, Social Security and Medicare, will have to be funded JDPriestly Aug 2012 #75

Ithe programs aren't funded from the TF's, they're funded from FICA taxes. The TFs are a HiPointDem Aug 2012 #82

If we cut the military budget in half B Calm Aug 2012 #7

And we would still have the biggest military in the world! Our military budget is what Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #11

We didn't win the "arms race". The Soviets just lost first. Scuba Aug 2012 #13

With SS, I'd throw it back at them and ask, does 'fully funded to 2038' sound like a crisis? reformist2 Aug 2012 #8

I first heard the 20 year meme in the 70's. That's well over 20 yearas ago. mulsh Aug 2012 #9

In fact, the same arguments were made when Republicans fought the passage of the original Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #17

Thank you Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #14

I hate that tired old right wing lie, it goes something like this: Dragonfli Aug 2012 #19

Isn't it allready? tama Aug 2012 #25

Anybody who buys into that statement has already Wounded Bear Aug 2012 #31

The government will spend money depending on the priorities of hte people we vote for gollygee Aug 2012 #36

...and the Postal Service, and Amtrak... jberryhill Aug 2012 #61

Good one! I usually say, only if you allow that. It's up to you. Political will. freshwest Aug 2012 #88