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Gothmog

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Thu Dec 27, 2018, 11:01 PM Dec 2018

NYT-For Bernie Sanders, Holding Onto Support May Be Hard in a 2020 Bid [View all]

The NYT has a great article on some of the difficulties that sanders is facing if he runs in 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-president-2020.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

WASHINGTON — Some of his top congressional supporters won’t commit to backing him if he runs for president again — and two may join the 2020 race themselves. A handful of former aides might work for other candidates. And Bernie Sanders’s initial standing in Iowa polls is well below the 49.6 percent he captured in nearly defeating Hillary Clinton there in 2016.

Mr. Sanders may have been the runner-up in the last Democratic primary, but instead of expanding his nucleus of support, in the fashion of most repeat candidates, the Vermont senator is struggling to retain even what he garnered two years ago, when he was far less of a political star than he is today.

“It’s not a given that I’m going to support Bernie just because I did before,” said Lucy Flores, a former Nevada assemblywoman. “There are going to be plenty of people to look at and to listen to. I’m currently open at this point, and I think the majority of people are.”

As Mr. Sanders considers a second bid for the White House, he and his advisers are grappling with the political reality that he would face a far different electoral landscape than in 2016. Rather than being the only progressive opponent to an establishment-backed front-runner, the Vermont Independent would join what may be the most crowded, fractured and uncertain Democratic primary in the last quarter-century.

The NYT looks at a number of issues that show that sanders may have a very hard time duplicating his prior success
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Good.. BS is too Divisive. Cha Dec 2018 #1
I think irrelevant as well. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #12
Happy New Year, LakeArenal! Cha Dec 2018 #21
Got two copies. Gonna donate one. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #22
Good on you! Cha Dec 2018 #25
That is so very wonderful. Thank you for sharing it. Made my heart melt. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #69
Mine, too, WeekiWater. Cha Dec 2018 #74
I totally share your feelings about this!! The division is toxic and it always weakens the party. NurseJackie Dec 2018 #73
The Division Cha Dec 2018 #75
The attacks on the party certainly aren't unifying... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #86
Me neither.. I've just been on Twitter.. Cha Dec 2018 #89
I think I understand the cynical motivation of those who attack the Democratic party... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #91
We Won the Democratic Majority Cha Dec 2018 #92
I am looking toward the future and not the past. nt sheshe2 Dec 2018 #2
I received an email from BS today asking for money. lapucelle Dec 2018 #3
"We made financial elite pay a price" Gothmog Dec 2018 #6
"It is just as important we do it again today." ucrdem Dec 2018 #8
Same broken record.. Adrahil Dec 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #37
Yep. SunSeeker Dec 2018 #46
I think a lot of us here are done being enchanted with him, Adrahil. He's always been a gadfly... Hekate Dec 2018 #50
"In 2016 we faced the kitchen sink" ucrdem Dec 2018 #13
There are evil forces who are against me. NanceGreggs Dec 2018 #14
Yeah, this is exactly what the first post Cha Dec 2018 #20
That is a great article Gothmog Dec 2018 #79
A few of President Obama's Accomplishments.. Cha Dec 2018 #85
A group running ads is going to scare candidates from supporting a progressive agenda? betsuni Dec 2018 #30
"Last time we ran, we made the financial elite pay a price for their attacks on our progressive WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #59
OMG, shouldn't he be attacking Republicans by now?! R B Garr Dec 2018 #71
He faced the kitchen sink, by golly! N/T lapucelle Dec 2018 #90
What I don't understand Andy823 Dec 2018 #78
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #4
Promised the day before the great Roman Holiday. George II Dec 2018 #7
Is the great Roman holiday ... NanceGreggs Dec 2018 #11
Yes. Alas Pope Francis had no idea he was going to be there until he "bumped into him"..... George II Dec 2018 #17
Of Course It Will Be A Far Different Landscape Me. Dec 2018 #5
According to his email, in 2016 BS "faced the kitchen sink". lapucelle Dec 2018 #10
That's a funny way to describe the Clinton campaign ucrdem Dec 2018 #16
Maybe he felt the press was unduly harsh. lapucelle Dec 2018 #18
rofl Cha Dec 2018 #28
The Press bent over backwards to make him look good. nt Blue_true Dec 2018 #93
Yes, but what about...THE KITCHEN SINK! lapucelle Dec 2018 #94
he's confused.. that was Hillary who Cha Dec 2018 #23
The Little Baker's Kitchen Sink Me. Dec 2018 #24
lol Cha Dec 2018 #32
Maybe it's elitist to use idioms correctly. betsuni Dec 2018 #43
Oh yeah! Cha Dec 2018 #26
At His Peril Or Any WOC Me. Dec 2018 #29
No he is Not. Cha Dec 2018 #31
Maybe he can run as what he is this time redstatebluegirl Dec 2018 #56
You Are 1000% Correct Me. Dec 2018 #66
Sounds exactly right. Independent until you need help R B Garr Dec 2018 #70
Many Democrats in addition to POC would not be happy on attacks on Pres. Obama Gothmog Dec 2018 #80
I just was on twitter combating Cha Dec 2018 #88
From Josh Marshall Gothmog Dec 2018 #95
Yes, The Big Divide.. thanks Cha Dec 2018 #96
I wouldn't underestimate his appeal to many of his followers DFW Dec 2018 #15
Not Enough To Win The Primary Me. Dec 2018 #27
There never was that DFW Dec 2018 #35
We know that. George II Dec 2018 #63
What? Me. Dec 2018 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #36
Without a compliant media, that would have gone nowhere DFW Dec 2018 #38
Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #39
Of course. Everyone tried for it. So how come only they got it? DFW Dec 2018 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #41
Reminds me of Ron Paul of the left Trenzalore Dec 2018 #42
The day he announced I'm sending $100. roody Dec 2018 #45
I'm sure he will maintain a core, but... Adrahil Dec 2018 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2018 #19
I'm not sure that "expanding a nucleus of support" is synonymous with "securing the nomination". N/T lapucelle Dec 2018 #33
Right, it is still far to early to draw any conclusions. Tiggeroshii Dec 2018 #47
Gary Hart and John Edwards had other issues (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Dec 2018 #49
Edwards was losing even before his issues came out JI7 Dec 2018 #53
Good luck to him here in the south! GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #34
Or heckling Latina civil rights icon Dolores Huerta. nt SunSeeker Dec 2018 #44
Were "the gloves off" against.. disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #58
that was the general election. the primary is made up of mostly black voters in the south JI7 Dec 2018 #67
I was at the National Convention when Congressman John Lewis was booed Gothmog Dec 2018 #81
Thank goodness there will be fewer caucuses next time. n/t Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #48
He had his chance and he blew it. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2018 #51
LaRouche, Kucinich, Sanders NBachers Dec 2018 #52
... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #87
News flash: NYT does usual number on Bernie shanny Dec 2018 #54
... betsuni Dec 2018 #55
Yup... disillusioned73 Dec 2018 #60
I fail to see what is productive about bashing Bernie around, but I do think that Magoo48 Dec 2018 #57
Campaigning is not "bashing Bernie around". Speaking of which, did you see the email he sent... George II Dec 2018 #64
Although I don't want to see him run again, Magoo48 Dec 2018 #68
I fail to see what is productive Cha Dec 2018 #76
K&R mcar Dec 2018 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Dec 2018 #72
He better be content qazplm135 Dec 2018 #77
I wonder if he'll have Tad Devine as manager again NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #82
Probably will as long as Devine hasn't been indicted by that time. Remember Devine's name.... George II Dec 2018 #84
6 Reasons Bernie Sanders Has Lost His 2016 Mojo Gothmog Dec 2018 #83
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