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ancianita

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60. We're good, no doubt. Great House Counsel, yes. But it's an uphill battle and maybe our last chance.

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 05:50 PM

Dec 2018

You're right about the larger "us." But in such a large country, people can get confused about which group's activities endanger or protect their freedoms.

Vigilance can work both ways.

Our opponents' vigilance is about advancing their monetary gains, about creating opportunities to advance their capitalist owners' no-government goals.

Vigilance on our side is about preserving their attack on democratic processes, government and citizens' constitutional rights.

We need to stay vigilant about advancing both capitalism's regulation and democracy. As one is diminished, the other grows, and we've got to realize that democracy will never preserve and protect itself. That's where we come in.

It's ironic that millions who get monthly checks fail to understand or accept that the third biggest country on the planet needs the big government they depend on, yet choose to hate.

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What if the stealth way of breaking a country is to empty its government of experienced workers? [View all] Grasswire2 Dec 2018 OP

I think it's all part of Putin's machinations eleny Dec 2018 #1

I'm not trying to start a firestorm here, but that's why Biden is in the mix for me. BadgerMom Dec 2018 #23

No firestorm from me. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2018 #26

We don't HAVE until the next election... pangaia Dec 2018 #42

the speed of destruction is accelerating.....nt Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #62

You damn right....and he knows all the players and will assemble A teams quickly. nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #67

"Administrative deconstruction" is indeed a thing, aka "Reversing the New Deal" FreepFryer Dec 2018 #2

thank you Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #8

Not just the NEW DEAL-- pangaia Dec 2018 #41

Glaude's comment was about GOP reversal of the New Deal as domestic goal of administrative deconst. FreepFryer Dec 2018 #50

It's a plan. CrispyQ Dec 2018 #3

Bingo! Quemado Dec 2018 #4

Also remember: The GOP has been doing this since before Trump was any part of it. FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #19

I keep telling my daughter: he's not just a fool. maxsolomon Dec 2018 #5

thank you Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #9

The shutdown will weaken TSA, Customs and Border Protection, and the Coast Guard Quemado Dec 2018 #6

there ya go.... Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #11

You got it.... pangaia Dec 2018 #44

AND the social safety nets that would feed and house all those bereft workers are under attack Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #63

This has been a major element of the Republicans wish list for years. enough Dec 2018 #7

Project PNAC DENVERPOPS Dec 2018 #31

He's the rodeo clown. The carnival barker. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #64

Rachel Maddow spotted this on Day One. She calls it "hollowing out" the federal government. So yes. Hekate Dec 2018 #10

So did PANGAIA! Or very, very soon there after. pangaia Dec 2018 #46

That's what Republicans have been hoping for. Kill the AJT Dec 2018 #12

Grover Norquist's "shrink and drown"quote Quemado Dec 2018 #14

Mmmhmm durablend Dec 2018 #25

That's why there is Turbineguy Dec 2018 #13

Forty years ago, a friend of mine predicted Quemado Dec 2018 #15

And by "reaching across the aisle" we've enabled this. FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #21

Could very well be *somebody's* plan Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #16

Yeah I haven't seen any evidence he is capable of a plan on his own ooky Dec 2018 #32

Thom Hartmann just gave a heads up to your thread on his program eleny Dec 2018 #17

Did he make the Russia connection, or downplay/ignore it? I'm guessing the latter. Nt FreepFryer Dec 2018 #28

He referenced Grasswire's points eleny Dec 2018 #36

I bet he's relieved they allowed it at all. FreepFryer Dec 2018 #43

You can always write and ask him directly about your concerns eleny Dec 2018 #49

He should be ready to answer for every time he called the Russia investigation "new McCarthyism" FreepFryer Dec 2018 #51

I just remembered ... eleny Dec 2018 #53

Actually I don't feel strongly about him, I feel strongly about Russian propagandists. FreepFryer Dec 2018 #54

this has always been the repug way since nixon, not so much to dumb down but to profit, elmac Dec 2018 #18

It's definitely intentional. Stealth attack from within. MaeScott Dec 2018 #20

Which is treason Liberalhammer Dec 2018 #22

Oh, come on. pangaia Dec 2018 #47

Exactly. Weakening government and oversight has always been the plan of conservatives, but Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #24

This has long been a plan by those who've leaked details at CPAC of what 'small gov' means. ancianita Dec 2018 #27

Yup. But thankfully, nowhere near small enough to drown in a bathtub yet. (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #29

Not thankfully. We all know it's a figure of speech pointing to a slow roll killing of democracy ancianita Dec 2018 #33

Suffice it to say we disagree - there's a lot more than the House and Mueller FreepFryer Dec 2018 #45

Only in our circles. It's too big a country for our ideas to influence whole pockets of govt. haters ancianita Dec 2018 #57

Imho you're wrong if you discount the power of the demos, but you're entitled to your opinion. nt FreepFryer Dec 2018 #58

We're good, no doubt. Great House Counsel, yes. But it's an uphill battle and maybe our last chance. ancianita Dec 2018 #60

Agree with all of the above. I keep an optimistic view, because I honestly do believe... FreepFryer Dec 2018 #61

k&R BlueJac Dec 2018 #30

WE know it's the plan. slumcamper Dec 2018 #34

I don't think that there's volstork Dec 2018 #35

The Republicans have been dismantling the government trev Dec 2018 #37

Not much actual "stealth" about it... n/t TygrBright Dec 2018 #38

Tax law enid602 Dec 2018 #39

OF COURSE it is the plan. It was from the beginning. pangaia Dec 2018 #40

I agree FirstLight Dec 2018 #48

No, the Republican party controlling the gov is in chaos Rizen Dec 2018 #52

This is a coordinated attack matt819 Dec 2018 #55

yes Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #69

Just take a look at what is happening in Turkey, the Philippines, Poland and Hungary. Initech Dec 2018 #56

We are far from powerless, if we can only resist the constant pessimistic insinuation to give up. Nt FreepFryer Dec 2018 #59

the difference now is there's a front man. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #65

The cabinet is not "largely acting". former9thward Dec 2018 #66

Quick! Somebody call Putin and ask him! akraven Dec 2018 #68