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Caliman73

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16. He is wrong on this one.

Fri Dec 28, 2018, 08:02 PM

Dec 2018

I like Gutierrez. He certainly has been fierce in Congress but he is wrong on this issue. As most other responses have indicated, you cannot make deals with people who have a history of negotiating in bad faith. Trump has not intention of doing anything that benefits non-White immigrants in any way. DACA is safe for now with the courts continuing to slap Trump down. Republicans and Trump do not want any kind of comprehensive immigration reform because that will take their only really "drive up the base" issue off the table. If a comprehensive reform bill is signed then how will Republicans rile up the racists? They will not do it, even for Trump's wall. The majority of people see the shut down as Trump's fault and as the Democrats take charge in about 6 days, they can take control of the messaging by sending bills that the Senate has to hold up, or Trump has to veto. Now is not the time to cave in and accept Republican deceit.

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Rep. Luis Gutirrez to Democrats: Pay 'ransom' to get immigration reform [View all] DonViejo Dec 2018 OP

What I believe Rep. Gutirrez is missing: no_hypocrisy Dec 2018 #1

Eliminate the filibuster!!!! sharedvalues Dec 2018 #2

Currently, the Republicans control the filibuster in the Senate... LakeVermilion Dec 2018 #3

When Dems take the senate- commit to ending the filibuster sharedvalues Dec 2018 #18

NO!!! Where has Representative Gutirrez been for the last 20 years? They do NOT want to negotiate still_one Dec 2018 #4

let Repukes reach across the aisle for a change Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #11

Exactly still_one Dec 2018 #12

Appeasement is for cucks. Hugin Dec 2018 #5

You Cannot Negotiate With Someone. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #6

Negotiation is only a valid tactic Bettie Dec 2018 #7

+1000 UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #15

Stephen Miller blocked last deal Gothmog Dec 2018 #8

So if the GOP says, "no statehood for Puerto Rico if we pass your immigration bill," that's okay? DonViejo Dec 2018 #9

He forgets that an idiot is the current president. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #10

No. Hell no. Why pay a ransom to fucking assholes who won't do their job? Autumn Dec 2018 #13

If there was an honorable man in the White House that might work. spanone Dec 2018 #14

He is wrong on this one. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #16

No. After two years of the con man, he still doesn't get this guy. BeckyDem Dec 2018 #17