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luvtheGWN

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97. Here's a view from the north:

Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:42 AM

Jan 2019

You have to ask yourself: Did Reagan get elected because of his policies or because he was glib and well-practiced in front of the camera?

Did GHW Bush NOT get elected because he was, maybe, too bland?

Did Bill Clinton get elected because he too was extremely good in front of the cameras, despite his sexual proclivities? (I thought he was the best candidate, but was still amazed that all those good CINOS didn't put up more of a stink)

Did W get elected because...? Oh wait, he actually didn't, the first time. The second time he had Dirty Tricks Rove working all out for him.

Did Obama get elected because of his experience? No, he was new, young, with great policies and even greater sex appeal.

The second time he was running against a stodgy, dull Mormon.

Did Trump get elected because he was experienced and knowledgeable? No, he was a TV star and knew how to appeal to the deplorables. And he ran against Hillary (for whom I have the utmost respect) who had no sex appeal and seemed to turn off too many of those who would otherwise have voted for her.

So my conclusion is that, even though I agree with 95% of what Elizabeth Warren stands for, and I admire her passion and her commitment, she is yesterday's news, and will never bring in the votes. Her appeal to the deplorables and the independents is basically non-existent.

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Elizabeth Warren on The Rachel Maddow Show: Anyone watching? [View all] Auggie Jan 2019 OP

Go Elizabeth! nt Xipe Totec Jan 2019 #1

Just tuned in to DVR. cilla4progress Jan 2019 #2

5he's impressive teach1st Jan 2019 #3

Yep GP6971 Jan 2019 #4

Yup superpatriotman Jan 2019 #5

Good to see! Cha Jan 2019 #6

I'm watching tulipsandroses Jan 2019 #7

She's so authentic ... it's very powerful Auggie Jan 2019 #8

Yes. Spontaneous, authentic, powerful personal story. Raven123 Jan 2019 #9

No question, I still love her ... Greywing Jan 2019 #10

Yes. She's so passionate about her causes Cousin Dupree Jan 2019 #11

Warren has gotten the full attention of the 1% Auggie Jan 2019 #12

Yes. May all their precious body parts dry up and drop off. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #80

If the election were tonight she'd have my vote. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #13

Mine too! Auggie Jan 2019 #14

I'm in the car (parked) so listening. She is utterly prepared. nolabear Jan 2019 #15

I think she'd be a great candidate. we can do it Jan 2019 #16

She sounds very presidential Clash City Rocker Jan 2019 #17

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #18

Bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #22

+1 Auggie Jan 2019 #24

Well, you never know who's who anymore... The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #25

She is less likable than Hilary Guppy Jan 2019 #30

Yeah, the racist and asshole don't like her of course buts that another KGOP framing. We're not uponit7771 Jan 2019 #46

Did you ever think, tiny fishy, that you might not know that much about the American people? hedda_foil Jan 2019 #54

If you think she isn't likable, then you don't like successful, warm, caring, smart women. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #55

"I liked Hilary" (sic) "the DU faithful" betsuni Jan 2019 #60

Rofl Cha Jan 2019 #76

I remember seeing Warren on TV PatSeg Jan 2019 #88

I think she's more likeable than Hillary whathehell Jan 2019 #95

Here's a view from the north: luvtheGWN Jan 2019 #97

Yeah, sure... Moebym Jan 2019 #98

Hillary is spelled with two "l"s lunatica Jan 2019 #99

She is more likable than Hillary and she's a fighter for the right causes k8conant Jan 2019 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jan 2019 #122

Umm, no. n/t demmiblue Jan 2019 #123

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #33

It's pretty clear you're in the wrong place, elleng Jan 2019 #61

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #26

Oh, how terribly "unfortunate" that we "hired" Barack Obama then? Say what? Hekate Jan 2019 #34

So which "rock star" are you excited about for 2020? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2019 #35

Somebody got lost on his way to Freeperville. George II Jan 2019 #75

LOFL !!! Yaw here early no? uponit7771 Jan 2019 #40

Somebody is seriously dumping all over this thread with some astonishing talking points... Hekate Jan 2019 #49

+1, some old gnarled up stank talking points too uponit7771 Jan 2019 #50

I've seen Warren described as an "annoyed librarian" and "schoolmarm": talking point. betsuni Jan 2019 #53

By Republicans. QED. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #59

Well, saw those comments at JPR and SplinterNews, self-described progressives/independents. betsuni Jan 2019 #66

That's a way sexists and misogynists of any party seek to diminish women. pnwmom Jan 2019 #119

What a sexist comment. pnwmom Jan 2019 #52

Yes, it was sexist and wrong. Blue_true Jan 2019 #62

No kidding Hekate Jan 2019 #64

Oh ow. Whoa. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #65

How in the world are we going to pick one candidate Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #19

Answering the last line; No we have a lot of awesome people in our party. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #86

Inslee is my Gov. MFM008 Jan 2019 #118

I'm guessing Shitler is probably watching intently as well. Expect a Tweet first bullwinkle428 Jan 2019 #20

doubtful jcgoldie Jan 2019 #51

His Syria policy just developed... Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #67

yes bdamomma Jan 2019 #21

She's a genuine populist. Nt spooky3 Jan 2019 #23

just like William Jennings Bryan n/t Guppy Jan 2019 #28

She's a progressive, not a populist. Big difference. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #29

She's awesome torius Jan 2019 #27

She was impressive. Would make a fine president. nt oasis Jan 2019 #31

I'll vote for her leanforward Jan 2019 #32

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #36

Who are they voting for? oberliner Jan 2019 #37

Donald Trump Guppy Jan 2019 #38

I meant what Democrat would they vote for over Trump? oberliner Jan 2019 #42

And they'll vote for Trump no matter who the Dems nominate. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #45

You mean the racist enabler and assholes? There are more dems and non voters than Obama switch voter uponit7771 Jan 2019 #48

well no shit jcgoldie Jan 2019 #57

I see...so...rural GA speaks for the rest of America? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #71

People like that are brain dead. Forget them. defacto7 Jan 2019 #84

With all due respect to our GA DUers, the next Dem spooky3 Jan 2019 #92

Why are you hung up on rural voters in a red state? n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #111

??? Hekate Jan 2019 #43

Hey, if GA isnt on board...I know about 20 States that will be by then. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #69

why not? She is from Oklahoma AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #83

LOL! lunatica Jan 2019 #101

We don't expect R votes from rural Georgia, and we don't need them. pnwmom Jan 2019 #109

I had forgotten how much I really like Senator Warren. Let's all be prepared to have her back... Hekate Jan 2019 #39

Exactly. SHE IS A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!! still_one Jan 2019 #77

+1 fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #90

I agree with Guppy's various replies. I really like her, but I know... LAS14 Jan 2019 #41

If after 4 years of Trump Democrats can't get excited enough about our candidate to get up and vote Blaukraut Jan 2019 #72

I agree, OncoRN Jan 2019 #78

Young people are concerned PatSeg Jan 2019 #91

Are you aware that she has gotten stellar teaching evaluations spooky3 Jan 2019 #93

Harvard law students are a distinct sub group of the "young people" population. nt LAS14 Jan 2019 #132

She taught in other places before Harvard and spooky3 Jan 2019 #137

You want someone that will "charm" you? My mind tilted on that one. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #79

I want someone who will charm voters who might otherwise stay home. nt LAS14 Jan 2019 #131

Does it concern you that you are dissing two strong women spooky3 Jan 2019 #96

Nope, it doesn't concern me, because I'm not dissing her. Read the post. LAS14 Jan 2019 #133

Glad you're confident, and obviously I DID read your post. spooky3 Jan 2019 #136

You and I are both dealing in opinion. We disagree about what might be the case, but neither of us. LAS14 Jan 2019 #138

I think that's a really shallow quality to demand lunatica Jan 2019 #102

Watching her, I thought she DID have charisma. I don't see how any progressive, pnwmom Jan 2019 #120

We need more than progressives and left-center people to want to get to the polls and vote. nt LAS14 Jan 2019 #134

Most left of center issues poll extremely well even with a lot of conservatives Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #135

Warren is awesome... jimlup Jan 2019 #44

She handles spit-balls well, better than most pecosbob Jan 2019 #47

Someone in this thread has been a busy boy doing just that with the tripe.... Hekate Jan 2019 #68

I guess some people were never taught not to throw food at the table. pecosbob Jan 2019 #73

He/she won't last long lunatica Jan 2019 #104

I have loved her since 2004, when I read her book... albacore Jan 2019 #56

The more good Democrats in the running the better, I say. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #58

excellent interview, there will be a lot of energy and excitement behind her campaign.nt elmac Jan 2019 #63

She's great. TDale313 Jan 2019 #70

I'm giving every candidate a chance to make their case aikoaiko Jan 2019 #74

Oooh! A lot of Post Removed's in this thread. KPN Jan 2019 #81

Just guessing here, but... sweetloukillbot Jan 2019 #100

I will watch later, and it will determine whether I'll support ecstatic Jan 2019 #82

Thank you. Flaleftist Jan 2019 #85

Even if she isn't the nominee, her presence will influence/improve the platform/talking points AdamGG Jan 2019 #87

We have so many remarkable choices this time PatSeg Jan 2019 #89

Disappointed in Rachel stillspkg Jan 2019 #94

Maddow was tame compared to what Warren will faces from others n/t Auggie Jan 2019 #126

Not super impressed so far kennetha Jan 2019 #103

uh...how is that blather? Do you actually have a contention with it? That I'd like to read. JCanete Jan 2019 #110

Blather? So you disagree that the system is KPN Jan 2019 #113

And what pray tell do you suppose people oriented politicians can do kennetha Jan 2019 #117

I'd call it blather too... if my biases compelled me do do so. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #129

More blather. Stop drinking the koolaid and maybe you'll KPN Jan 2019 #130

Long on accusations ... GeorgeGist Jan 2019 #140

*ring* Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #105

I really like Senator Warren and would support her if she is the nominee Gothmog Jan 2019 #106

Don't Feed the Sexist Attack Trolls McKim Jan 2019 #107

Thank you Senator Warren Gothmog Jan 2019 #108

Transparency! betsuni Jan 2019 #114

And so of course The Hill turned the entire interview pecosbob Jan 2019 #115

First time I ever changed channels on Maddow wiley Jan 2019 #116

She was excellent malaise Jan 2019 #121

She was fine and I could support her as the nominee. I want to see everyone first though. Vinca Jan 2019 #124

I'm not a Warren fan (do not ask me why), but i have to say she Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #127

+1 Auggie Jan 2019 #128

She was magnificent. sellitman Jan 2019 #139