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37. There was a time

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:19 PM

Aug 2012

when I followed the anti-Chavez threads on DU. Same'o with Ecuador now. You've never followed those discussions?

Since when has spying of UN officials and extrajudicial assassinations of US and other citizens been lawful or acceptable? I'm not US citizen so I thank god don't need to bother myself about who to vote there, and this is not the forum of uncritical support for everything that Dems do. Of course I'm also aware that during election campaigns things get more touchy and intolerant - as your response shows -, but also the whole world keeps changing at its pace.

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Meanwhile, Ecuador prepares to extradite a blogger it offered asylum in 2008. [View all] Robb Aug 2012 OP

I would like to tama Aug 2012 #1

Some additional sources: Robb Aug 2012 #12

Thanks tama Aug 2012 #17

Really? You think that's a positive sign, after the leader of Belarus personally visited Correa? MADem Aug 2012 #27

Freedom of press in Ecuador tama Aug 2012 #29

Usual culprits? Human rights agencies are suspicious, now? MADem Aug 2012 #33

There was a time tama Aug 2012 #37

You said "usual culprits." I responded with the names of four human rights agencies. MADem Aug 2012 #44

Yup tama Aug 2012 #47

OK, so your position is that these agencies, which support freedom of the press, are right-wing MADem Aug 2012 #50

I am quite certain that if the UK Downwinder Aug 2012 #2

Uh-oh...this kind of fucks up the "narrative," doesn't it? MADem Aug 2012 #3

You seem to accept that the extradition is a case of venal pay-for-play by Ecuador with Balarus leveymg Aug 2012 #4

Heck of a coincidence, then. Robb Aug 2012 #6

You should be happy, it means Ecuador has a price they're willing to sell Assange for riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #7

Think about the absurdity of what you're saying. Robb Aug 2012 #9

You're the one who posted the OP that strongly implies Ecuador sold Barankov to Belaraus riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #18

Just as likely, Ecuador imagined the US would offer something, and we didn't. Robb Aug 2012 #34

Oh, that may very well be. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #36

I don't "seeeeeeeeeeem" to "accept" anything. I'm speculating here like every other swinging MADem Aug 2012 #23

So Ecuador's a "little hypocritical and self serving", and the US is about a million times more. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #25

Where's the US's "offer?" And why would they make one? They've gotten what they want! MADem Aug 2012 #31

Your post #3 made this OP about $. Robb, who knows, maybe he wants to make Ecuador look $ grubbing? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #32

I didn't "make it" about money. I opined as to motivation, is all. MADem Aug 2012 #38

Honestly, at this point we don't know if its hypocrisy, $$ grubbing, attention seeking, principles riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #40

If you will look at my first position (sounds like ballet lessons) you'll see a field of MADem Aug 2012 #46

It is a uniquely American solution you've got there! Robb Aug 2012 #48

More like a "why re-invent the wheel" type thing. MADem Aug 2012 #49

I expect Assange to write while in confinement, and confined he will be. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #52

Ecuador has granted Assange asylum, but we do not know what kind of JDPriestly Aug 2012 #51

That's the international game then isn't it? If Assange gets 5 more years to expose intl crimes riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #5

would that come under political actions/behavior? Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #30

Ecuador has publicly offered to hand Assange over to Sweden, too. Also to facilitate questions by.. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #8

You're quite aware, as is Assange, that formal questioning off Swedish soil holds no legal ground. Robb Aug 2012 #10

Which is fine, because he hasn't been formally charged with anything. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #19

Under Swedish law, he cannot be -- until he is formally questioned. You know that, too. Robb Aug 2012 #26

I'd bet if he were wiretapped from where he is and admitted something, they would use it against him julian09 Aug 2012 #28

Marianne Nye has lied about this. There is no Swedish law that prevented sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #39

Why is he not willing to come to the US and be tried? treestar Aug 2012 #13

Duh, maybe because there's no public case against him yet? Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #15

Assange case has nothing to do with civil disobedience tama Aug 2012 #22

They have? That doesn't sound like "asylum" to me, then! MADem Aug 2012 #24

I see you've been reading the tabloids. But then, this is a typical example sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #41

If you are going to be snarky, at least read the whole thread, OK? MADem Aug 2012 #43

It appears the asylum Ecuador offers is not permanent treestar Aug 2012 #11

Technically it hasn't been revoked yet, but there was a hearing to do so on the 9th. Robb Aug 2012 #14

Ecuador has offered to hand over Assange also. Is there any report on the sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #16

Thanks n/t tama Aug 2012 #20

mideast war promoters together again, what does it all mean HiPointDem Aug 2012 #21

Color me not surprised TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #35

Assange and Correa became acquainted while Assange was working as a correspondent/interviewer/ MADem Aug 2012 #45

DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #42

There appears now to be a Wikipedia article: Robb Aug 2012 #53

heh mediafibs Aug 2012 #54

even google mediafibs Aug 2012 #55

Update: story seems to have legs. Robb Aug 2012 #56

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