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MADem

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43. If you are going to be snarky, at least read the whole thread, OK?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:12 PM
Aug 2012

You don't see anything of the sort.

Funny how you accuse ME of "reading the tabloids" and the first I heard of this "Poopy Julian doesn't flush" shit (forgive the expression) was right HERE--in this thread. From another DUer.

Sheesh. Pull the string!

Stop personalizing. It makes you look very petty. Read contextually or at least read the whole conversation--it'll keep you out of trouble.

I don't think a thing of the "exculpatory evidence" since--if it's been "scrubbed from the internet" I haven't seen it, now, have I? I have read the statements of the ladies' to the police, and those do not sound like happy campers--no matter what quotes are being flung around to suggest that they are happy and not concerned--there's conflicting comment there, to put it nicely. Since most of us don't read Swedish, either, we are all relying on translations.

I cannot speak for the government of Sweden. I am not a Swede and I know damn little about their justice system, save what I have read in papers that are NOT tabloids. I do understand essential concepts of sovereignty, extradition, etc. I do know what an international arrest warrant is. I know enough, after reading many articles on the subject, that even though he has not been formally "charged" under Swedish law, the proceedings have reached that stage over there that, if the situation were transported to USA or UK, it is the equivalent of being charged even though a formal accusation has not been brought forward.

I do think a lot of this twisted conspiratorial conversation about this guy is a bit over the top. If the US wants Assange to stop doing what he was doing with the Wikileaks, well, they've gotten their wish now, haven't they? He's in a shitty little room with a small bed, a treadmill and a computer--and if he tries to run his business out of the embassy, he'll find himself in a new bath of hot water or at the very least, without an internet connection, I'd bet.

It's like prison, right now, only with email. He's painted into a corner of his own making.

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I would like to tama Aug 2012 #1
Some additional sources: Robb Aug 2012 #12
Thanks tama Aug 2012 #17
Really? You think that's a positive sign, after the leader of Belarus personally visited Correa? MADem Aug 2012 #27
Freedom of press in Ecuador tama Aug 2012 #29
Usual culprits? Human rights agencies are suspicious, now? MADem Aug 2012 #33
There was a time tama Aug 2012 #37
You said "usual culprits." I responded with the names of four human rights agencies. MADem Aug 2012 #44
Yup tama Aug 2012 #47
OK, so your position is that these agencies, which support freedom of the press, are right-wing MADem Aug 2012 #50
I am quite certain that if the UK Downwinder Aug 2012 #2
Uh-oh...this kind of fucks up the "narrative," doesn't it? MADem Aug 2012 #3
You seem to accept that the extradition is a case of venal pay-for-play by Ecuador with Balarus leveymg Aug 2012 #4
Heck of a coincidence, then. Robb Aug 2012 #6
You should be happy, it means Ecuador has a price they're willing to sell Assange for riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #7
Think about the absurdity of what you're saying. Robb Aug 2012 #9
You're the one who posted the OP that strongly implies Ecuador sold Barankov to Belaraus riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #18
Just as likely, Ecuador imagined the US would offer something, and we didn't. Robb Aug 2012 #34
Oh, that may very well be. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #36
I don't "seeeeeeeeeeem" to "accept" anything. I'm speculating here like every other swinging MADem Aug 2012 #23
So Ecuador's a "little hypocritical and self serving", and the US is about a million times more. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #25
Where's the US's "offer?" And why would they make one? They've gotten what they want! MADem Aug 2012 #31
Your post #3 made this OP about $. Robb, who knows, maybe he wants to make Ecuador look $ grubbing? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #32
I didn't "make it" about money. I opined as to motivation, is all. MADem Aug 2012 #38
Honestly, at this point we don't know if its hypocrisy, $$ grubbing, attention seeking, principles riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #40
If you will look at my first position (sounds like ballet lessons) you'll see a field of MADem Aug 2012 #46
It is a uniquely American solution you've got there! Robb Aug 2012 #48
More like a "why re-invent the wheel" type thing. MADem Aug 2012 #49
I expect Assange to write while in confinement, and confined he will be. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #52
Ecuador has granted Assange asylum, but we do not know what kind of JDPriestly Aug 2012 #51
That's the international game then isn't it? If Assange gets 5 more years to expose intl crimes riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #5
would that come under political actions/behavior? Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #30
Ecuador has publicly offered to hand Assange over to Sweden, too. Also to facilitate questions by.. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #8
You're quite aware, as is Assange, that formal questioning off Swedish soil holds no legal ground. Robb Aug 2012 #10
Which is fine, because he hasn't been formally charged with anything. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #19
Under Swedish law, he cannot be -- until he is formally questioned. You know that, too. Robb Aug 2012 #26
I'd bet if he were wiretapped from where he is and admitted something, they would use it against him julian09 Aug 2012 #28
Marianne Nye has lied about this. There is no Swedish law that prevented sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #39
Why is he not willing to come to the US and be tried? treestar Aug 2012 #13
Duh, maybe because there's no public case against him yet? Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #15
Assange case has nothing to do with civil disobedience tama Aug 2012 #22
They have? That doesn't sound like "asylum" to me, then! MADem Aug 2012 #24
I see you've been reading the tabloids. But then, this is a typical example sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #41
If you are going to be snarky, at least read the whole thread, OK? MADem Aug 2012 #43
It appears the asylum Ecuador offers is not permanent treestar Aug 2012 #11
Technically it hasn't been revoked yet, but there was a hearing to do so on the 9th. Robb Aug 2012 #14
Ecuador has offered to hand over Assange also. Is there any report on the sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #16
Thanks n/t tama Aug 2012 #20
mideast war promoters together again, what does it all mean HiPointDem Aug 2012 #21
Color me not surprised TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #35
Assange and Correa became acquainted while Assange was working as a correspondent/interviewer/ MADem Aug 2012 #45
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #42
There appears now to be a Wikipedia article: Robb Aug 2012 #53
heh mediafibs Aug 2012 #54
even google mediafibs Aug 2012 #55
Update: story seems to have legs. Robb Aug 2012 #56
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