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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump [View all]Gothmog
(177,385 posts)199. When?
I was at the National Convention and I saw no efforts for sanders to call out his delegates. sanders sent one text Sunday night before the convention and then refused to do anything else.
I was warned about the planned stunt for sanders delegates to boo Congressman John Lewis by my whip 20 to 30 minutes in advanced of this stunt. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this stunt and declined. I was also at the Texas Delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates came an and demanded that we condemn Hillary Clinton
sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.
Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused
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Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump [View all]
TomCADem
Jan 2019
OP
His main ideas are actually quite popular. Themes of affordable healthcare and education.
TCJ70
Jan 2019
#168
Kind of hypocritical of Sanders as in my opinion "ugly campaigning" was his MO in 2016 election.
iluvtennis
Jan 2019
#12
You said it!! But, hey, it's anti-Bernie, so let's go for it!! Sad to see this happening...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#86
It is not about being anti Bernie. It is about people running for our nomination having
Blue_true
Jan 2019
#125
Left out Bernie's not a Democrat... imagine the sources one could cite today against
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#32
You can't be serious... Bernie's support is still strong among the people I know who voted
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#301
I'm all for that and forgiving college debt... these are good solid progressive policies.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#340
Here is something I recently realized - I've been on DU since 2005, and I don't recall...
George II
Jan 2019
#356
The first time that I heard of Bernie Sanders was in 1998 when he co-sponsored legislation
TexasTowelie
Jan 2019
#415
Looks like YOU'RE the one now "arguing from a very emotional place," as you like to say.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#343
The author of the opinion piece doesn't limit his discussion to BS supporters.
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#103
True Shanny, but, I must admonish you for using facts and reason when it comes to Bernie. LOL!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#362
He really turned me off when he ditched the Democratic party the minute he lost the
catbyte
Jan 2019
#54
I agree with you there... I don't giva shit WHO the nominee is, I would walk over hot coals to vote
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#118
Some participants inside the convention seemed willing to continue to damage the Democratic nominee,
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#52
There you go again... citing facts!! You're standing in the way of a good Bernie bashing!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#119
Show me. Link it. Did he stop his delegates from organizing the booing of John Lewis?
yardwork
Jan 2019
#142
A week after the fact, in a brief statement that seemed to show that he was unaware of the extent
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#302
Then stop making them. Your link said nothing about the booing of John Lewis, which is what you
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#333
I was at the convention and sanders did nothing to stop the protests occuring during the convention
Gothmog
Jan 2019
#368
My whip told me that sanders was asked to talk to his delegates and he declined
Gothmog
Jan 2019
#204
I just read somewhere that 380 million for Democratic candidates up and down ballot
betsuni
Jan 2019
#226
Bernie's supporters like me were light-years ahead in supporting Hillary against Shroom-Head...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#70
Know your history & learn from it. The constant Bernie bashin by some duz NOTHING 2 unite our party.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#117
I know the truth hurts, which is why u felt u must mischaracterize my arguments and hurl insults.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#351
We warned the third party spoiler voters, the slash and burn crowd bent on denying
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#374
So, what do you think of their behavior during the convention. Look at the picture Lapucelle
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#138
Again, I ask, did they try to sabotage Obama's nomination at the convention? Did they Boo him, turn
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#146
There was also a lot of head butting in 08 between the Clinton and Obama camps.
progressoid
Jan 2019
#307
Did they make an spectacle of themselves at the '08 convention? Did they try to sabotage Obama
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#311
That first one was not at the convention but at a reception sponsored by the RNC. Two others....
George II
Jan 2019
#372
You're right. None of those links talk about Clinton supporters booing anyone at the convention.
progressoid
Jan 2019
#402
At the convention, that scowl certainly didn't do much to evoke any sense...
NurseJackie
Jan 2019
#76
Why does he think the Democratic Party is a "failed ideology" of "liberal elites,"
betsuni
Jan 2019
#20
Seriously... that's why I just love the way Elizabeth has come out swinging against the
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#298
I don't know of any candidate who courts bankers for big donations (illegal) or speaking fees.
George II
Jan 2019
#375
Wait...what? It rings true that the Democratic Party is a "failed ideology" of "liberal elites"?
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#61
Yes, supporting progressive Democratic policies is not good enough if your name is Bernie...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#36
Incredibly sad... apparently, the Democratic "big tent" just isn't big enough for Bernie
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#72
Which is what at least one Sanders delegate said she would do at the convention:
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#426
NO!!! But there are times when it is prudent to set aside your most cherished wants to gain a
Blue_true
Jan 2019
#128
"What this data says is that many Sanders supporters were not voting for him but against Hillary"
betsuni
Jan 2019
#23
That kind of thinking is lazy in the context of 2016. When there are only two choices...
TCJ70
Jan 2019
#109
"It makes no sense to say we can't talk here about things Bernie said. "
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#107
"Let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don't believe that she is qualified
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#115
Would you prefer he shut up and finagle himself a Cabinet position? Probably.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2019
#112
You left out the persecution and victim complex a lot of his followers still carry
BannonsLiver
Jan 2019
#130
Now, did any Hillary supporters behave the same way when Obama was nominated?
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#140
Yes, some die-hard PUMAs refused to give up. The difference is that as soon as Clinton lost
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#145
"If you're going to protest your perceived disenfranchisement, maybe don't do it by heckling the guy
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#376
Is it a coincidence that his behavior in 2016 was aligned with Russia's strategy?
Renew Deal
Jan 2019
#55
It bothers me a great deal that Russia and Putin pushed sanders and helped him
Gothmog
Jan 2019
#205
and LOTS of Russian Interlopers. He is part of the left side of the horse shoe
Baltimike
Jan 2019
#99
Sander's is IMO still immensely popular and if he decides to run and meets the criteria will
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#104
This underscores the very real possibility that Sanders would reject serving as a Democrat,
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#127
You probably should review why Booker and other Senators voted against the import...
George II
Jan 2019
#257
Taking care of constituents, that's why Bernie Sanders supported a 1.5 trillion weapons program.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#267
That isn't the reason people are concerned about Beto. You do not see the same things about
JCanete
Jan 2019
#116
I'm not sure that's the case, my niece was all for Bernie in 2016, but now thinks Beto is the
OnDoutside
Jan 2019
#154
that's true Beto could certainly pull some young voters, nor was I suggesting he wouldn't be a
JCanete
Jan 2019
#306
The both of them are probably eating away at both ends of his potential base, but I agree with you
OnDoutside
Jan 2019
#335
Wow, another article trashing Bernie. His populist rhetoric must be scaring some powerful interests.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#122
Insinuating? Not at all. I think the current corporate state is a big fucking problem.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#202
I'm talking about the actual people running the corporations. I assume most of them are Republicans
jalan48
Jan 2019
#249
My bad. Corpos are ubiquitous and their influence on our political process is the same.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#254
Not that I know of. There are differences in regulations on corporations within the system I believe
jalan48
Jan 2019
#286
We corporate bots are paid by David Brock, too, don't forget, besides all the corporations and
betsuni
Jan 2019
#206
The non-stop assault on Bernie and Progressives in the media is a little too obvious.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#220
I support Bernie. Perhaps, after the debates, I'll choose someone else, but as of now ... nt
earthshine
Jan 2019
#133
I was happy to vote for Bernie Sanders before, and may be happy to do so again.
David__77
Jan 2019
#152
Bernie: Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don't agree with anything the Dems say
TomCADem
Jan 2019
#153
Does anyone know if Democratic primaries will require candidates to release their full
OnDoutside
Jan 2019
#156
All this constant hate on Senator Sanders is actually hurting the Democratic Party...
ProgLibDem
Jan 2019
#157
NBC:Bernie Sanders' fans can't be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks
TomCADem
Jan 2019
#158
You do realize Elizabeth Warren said a lot of the same things Sanders supporters said
Quixote1818
Jan 2019
#167
Yeah, just mellowing out because we are on the same side is something that someone
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#325
Elizabeth Warren is the real deal. Besides that, never known her to run a scorched-earth campaign
emulatorloo
Jan 2019
#213
Scorched earth has a specific meaning. It doesn't mean "standing up for what you believe in"
emulatorloo
Jan 2019
#280
Wrong. Sanders did not call the dem Party the financial elite in his email.
ProgLibDem
Jan 2019
#171
"Bernie Sanders tells California audience that Democrats 'cannot be the party of the liberal elite'"
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#179
link, 11/13/16, Sanders: Trump Won Because Democrats Focused Too Much On Wealthy "Liberal Elite"
ucrdem
Jan 2019
#228
November 14, 2016: "It is not good enough to have a liberal elite. I come from the white working
betsuni
Jan 2019
#229
Oh, melman. Bernie has called Democrats elites so many times, what different does it make
betsuni
Jan 2019
#281
Anyone who can't easily find these, and many more, hasn't really been looking.
George II
Jan 2019
#334
And so the division begins and it's not even 2020 yet. Beware folks, it's all part of the plan.
YOHABLO
Jan 2019
#303
Note to Bernie haters: your redundancy is gettin' old. Time to let that shit go.
Magoo48
Jan 2019
#378
His criticisms are based on the idea that the Democratic Party does not care about
betsuni
Jan 2019
#421