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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)342. I think that Bernie will be just fine without your
challenging everyone who has a criticism of being something other than logical or well meaning.
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Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump [View all]
TomCADem
Jan 2019
OP
His main ideas are actually quite popular. Themes of affordable healthcare and education.
TCJ70
Jan 2019
#168
Kind of hypocritical of Sanders as in my opinion "ugly campaigning" was his MO in 2016 election.
iluvtennis
Jan 2019
#12
You said it!! But, hey, it's anti-Bernie, so let's go for it!! Sad to see this happening...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#86
It is not about being anti Bernie. It is about people running for our nomination having
Blue_true
Jan 2019
#125
Left out Bernie's not a Democrat... imagine the sources one could cite today against
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#32
You can't be serious... Bernie's support is still strong among the people I know who voted
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#301
I'm all for that and forgiving college debt... these are good solid progressive policies.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#340
Here is something I recently realized - I've been on DU since 2005, and I don't recall...
George II
Jan 2019
#356
The first time that I heard of Bernie Sanders was in 1998 when he co-sponsored legislation
TexasTowelie
Jan 2019
#415
Looks like YOU'RE the one now "arguing from a very emotional place," as you like to say.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#343
The author of the opinion piece doesn't limit his discussion to BS supporters.
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#103
True Shanny, but, I must admonish you for using facts and reason when it comes to Bernie. LOL!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#362
He really turned me off when he ditched the Democratic party the minute he lost the
catbyte
Jan 2019
#54
I agree with you there... I don't giva shit WHO the nominee is, I would walk over hot coals to vote
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#118
Some participants inside the convention seemed willing to continue to damage the Democratic nominee,
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#52
There you go again... citing facts!! You're standing in the way of a good Bernie bashing!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#119
Show me. Link it. Did he stop his delegates from organizing the booing of John Lewis?
yardwork
Jan 2019
#142
A week after the fact, in a brief statement that seemed to show that he was unaware of the extent
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#302
Then stop making them. Your link said nothing about the booing of John Lewis, which is what you
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#333
I was at the convention and sanders did nothing to stop the protests occuring during the convention
Gothmog
Jan 2019
#368
My whip told me that sanders was asked to talk to his delegates and he declined
Gothmog
Jan 2019
#204
I just read somewhere that 380 million for Democratic candidates up and down ballot
betsuni
Jan 2019
#226
Bernie's supporters like me were light-years ahead in supporting Hillary against Shroom-Head...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#70
Know your history & learn from it. The constant Bernie bashin by some duz NOTHING 2 unite our party.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#117
I know the truth hurts, which is why u felt u must mischaracterize my arguments and hurl insults.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#351
We warned the third party spoiler voters, the slash and burn crowd bent on denying
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#374
So, what do you think of their behavior during the convention. Look at the picture Lapucelle
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#138
Again, I ask, did they try to sabotage Obama's nomination at the convention? Did they Boo him, turn
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#146
There was also a lot of head butting in 08 between the Clinton and Obama camps.
progressoid
Jan 2019
#307
Did they make an spectacle of themselves at the '08 convention? Did they try to sabotage Obama
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#311
That first one was not at the convention but at a reception sponsored by the RNC. Two others....
George II
Jan 2019
#372
You're right. None of those links talk about Clinton supporters booing anyone at the convention.
progressoid
Jan 2019
#402
At the convention, that scowl certainly didn't do much to evoke any sense...
NurseJackie
Jan 2019
#76
Why does he think the Democratic Party is a "failed ideology" of "liberal elites,"
betsuni
Jan 2019
#20
Seriously... that's why I just love the way Elizabeth has come out swinging against the
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#298
I don't know of any candidate who courts bankers for big donations (illegal) or speaking fees.
George II
Jan 2019
#375
Wait...what? It rings true that the Democratic Party is a "failed ideology" of "liberal elites"?
lapucelle
Jan 2019
#61
Yes, supporting progressive Democratic policies is not good enough if your name is Bernie...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#36
Incredibly sad... apparently, the Democratic "big tent" just isn't big enough for Bernie
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2019
#72
Which is what at least one Sanders delegate said she would do at the convention:
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#426
NO!!! But there are times when it is prudent to set aside your most cherished wants to gain a
Blue_true
Jan 2019
#128
"What this data says is that many Sanders supporters were not voting for him but against Hillary"
betsuni
Jan 2019
#23
That kind of thinking is lazy in the context of 2016. When there are only two choices...
TCJ70
Jan 2019
#109
"It makes no sense to say we can't talk here about things Bernie said. "
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#107
"Let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don't believe that she is qualified
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#115
Would you prefer he shut up and finagle himself a Cabinet position? Probably.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2019
#112
You left out the persecution and victim complex a lot of his followers still carry
BannonsLiver
Jan 2019
#130
Now, did any Hillary supporters behave the same way when Obama was nominated?
lunamagica
Jan 2019
#140
Yes, some die-hard PUMAs refused to give up. The difference is that as soon as Clinton lost
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#145
"If you're going to protest your perceived disenfranchisement, maybe don't do it by heckling the guy
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#376
Is it a coincidence that his behavior in 2016 was aligned with Russia's strategy?
Renew Deal
Jan 2019
#55
It bothers me a great deal that Russia and Putin pushed sanders and helped him
Gothmog
Jan 2019
#205
and LOTS of Russian Interlopers. He is part of the left side of the horse shoe
Baltimike
Jan 2019
#99
Sander's is IMO still immensely popular and if he decides to run and meets the criteria will
CentralMass
Jan 2019
#104
This underscores the very real possibility that Sanders would reject serving as a Democrat,
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#127
You probably should review why Booker and other Senators voted against the import...
George II
Jan 2019
#257
Taking care of constituents, that's why Bernie Sanders supported a 1.5 trillion weapons program.
betsuni
Jan 2019
#267
That isn't the reason people are concerned about Beto. You do not see the same things about
JCanete
Jan 2019
#116
I'm not sure that's the case, my niece was all for Bernie in 2016, but now thinks Beto is the
OnDoutside
Jan 2019
#154
that's true Beto could certainly pull some young voters, nor was I suggesting he wouldn't be a
JCanete
Jan 2019
#306
The both of them are probably eating away at both ends of his potential base, but I agree with you
OnDoutside
Jan 2019
#335
Wow, another article trashing Bernie. His populist rhetoric must be scaring some powerful interests.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#122
Insinuating? Not at all. I think the current corporate state is a big fucking problem.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#202
I'm talking about the actual people running the corporations. I assume most of them are Republicans
jalan48
Jan 2019
#249
My bad. Corpos are ubiquitous and their influence on our political process is the same.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#254
Not that I know of. There are differences in regulations on corporations within the system I believe
jalan48
Jan 2019
#286
We corporate bots are paid by David Brock, too, don't forget, besides all the corporations and
betsuni
Jan 2019
#206
The non-stop assault on Bernie and Progressives in the media is a little too obvious.
jalan48
Jan 2019
#220
I support Bernie. Perhaps, after the debates, I'll choose someone else, but as of now ... nt
earthshine
Jan 2019
#133
I was happy to vote for Bernie Sanders before, and may be happy to do so again.
David__77
Jan 2019
#152
Bernie: Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don't agree with anything the Dems say
TomCADem
Jan 2019
#153
Does anyone know if Democratic primaries will require candidates to release their full
OnDoutside
Jan 2019
#156
All this constant hate on Senator Sanders is actually hurting the Democratic Party...
ProgLibDem
Jan 2019
#157
NBC:Bernie Sanders' fans can't be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks
TomCADem
Jan 2019
#158
You do realize Elizabeth Warren said a lot of the same things Sanders supporters said
Quixote1818
Jan 2019
#167
Yeah, just mellowing out because we are on the same side is something that someone
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#325
Elizabeth Warren is the real deal. Besides that, never known her to run a scorched-earth campaign
emulatorloo
Jan 2019
#213
Scorched earth has a specific meaning. It doesn't mean "standing up for what you believe in"
emulatorloo
Jan 2019
#280
Wrong. Sanders did not call the dem Party the financial elite in his email.
ProgLibDem
Jan 2019
#171
"Bernie Sanders tells California audience that Democrats 'cannot be the party of the liberal elite'"
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2019
#179
link, 11/13/16, Sanders: Trump Won Because Democrats Focused Too Much On Wealthy "Liberal Elite"
ucrdem
Jan 2019
#228
November 14, 2016: "It is not good enough to have a liberal elite. I come from the white working
betsuni
Jan 2019
#229
Oh, melman. Bernie has called Democrats elites so many times, what different does it make
betsuni
Jan 2019
#281
Anyone who can't easily find these, and many more, hasn't really been looking.
George II
Jan 2019
#334
And so the division begins and it's not even 2020 yet. Beware folks, it's all part of the plan.
YOHABLO
Jan 2019
#303
Note to Bernie haters: your redundancy is gettin' old. Time to let that shit go.
Magoo48
Jan 2019
#378
His criticisms are based on the idea that the Democratic Party does not care about
betsuni
Jan 2019
#421