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421. His criticisms are based on the idea that the Democratic Party does not care about

Mon Jan 7, 2019, 01:29 AM

Jan 2019

the working/middle classes and does not want campaign finance reform and higher taxes on the wealthy, do not think access to health care, education and living wages are rights.

He says he wants to "reform the Democratic Party, make it a party of working people, make it a party of young people. And I'm very proud of the success that we've had in recent years in raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, making public colleges and universities tuition free, demanding the wealthy start paying their fair share of taxes. Those ideas ... which two years ago seem to be radical ideas are now kind of mainstream ideas supported by a pretty strong majority of the American people."

The ideas were only radical to Republicans. Dingell/Kennedy Medicare for All Act, 2007. Seattle approved a 15 dollar minimum wage in 2014, L.A. in 2015. Who raises taxes and wants more regulations and environmental protection? Democrats. Blue states pass progressive legislature when they have power. Republicans have made their lives about preventing this by any means. Blaming Democrats for what Republicans do only helps the Right.

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Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump [View all] TomCADem Jan 2019 OP

. dalton99a Jan 2019 #1

Well spotted -- and really chilling Hekate Jan 2019 #2

Good read! calimary Jan 2019 #3

Wow.. I saw it all and so did Cha Jan 2019 #4

"maybe..." or maybe not. not a bernie fan but this sounds like baloney nt msongs Jan 2019 #5

Not to me it doesn't. Cha Jan 2019 #7

We all saw it. ucrdem Jan 2019 #8

Mahalo, ucr.. Cha Jan 2019 #9

Hardly. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #44

Hit pieces usually do.. ;) disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #424

Any criticism of a sacred cow is called a hit piece. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #436

OK.. disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #451

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2019 #6

My objection to Bernie True Blue American Jan 2019 #10

+++ agree. iluvtennis Jan 2019 #13

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #22

Thank you and BLESS you for having the courage to say that out loud. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #62

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2019 #105

Yes, a thousand times yes! NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #148

His main ideas are actually quite popular. Themes of affordable healthcare and education. TCJ70 Jan 2019 #168

Democrats have been working True Blue American Jan 2019 #316

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jan 2019 #317

Democrats have actually gotten those ideas into existence. ehrnst Jan 2019 #327

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #290

Good article. Thanks. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #11

Kind of hypocritical of Sanders as in my opinion "ugly campaigning" was his MO in 2016 election. iluvtennis Jan 2019 #12

Bernie Opposes Government Ran By Billionaires Not Beto PaulX2 Jan 2019 #14

No, the article is Not "garbage". Cha Jan 2019 #16

You said it!! But, hey, it's anti-Bernie, so let's go for it!! Sad to see this happening... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #86

It is not about being anti Bernie. It is about people running for our nomination having Blue_true Jan 2019 #125

Thank you for that. True Blue American Jan 2019 #318

+1000 ehrnst Jan 2019 #332

K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #15

BDS shanny Jan 2019 #17

LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #21

Left out Bernie's not a Democrat... imagine the sources one could cite today against InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #32

... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #264

Is the statement that "Left out Bernie's not a Democrat" TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #289

Well done, TexasT! Cha Jan 2019 #300

You can't be serious... Bernie's support is still strong among the people I know who voted InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #301

Yes, I am serious. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #309

Bernie promised free College. True Blue American Jan 2019 #320

I forgot. TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #321

I would love free College True Blue American Jan 2019 #323

I'm all for that and forgiving college debt... these are good solid progressive policies. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #340

Hillary had great ideas for making that a reality. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #359

BTW, I forgot to mention TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #310

I think that Bernie will be just fine without your ehrnst Jan 2019 #342

"Logical or well meaning"... riiiiight. Now that's funny!! Good one!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #345

And now we have the ehrnst Jan 2019 #354

Not takin' the bait... sorry to disappoint you! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #357

And Bingo! ehrnst Jan 2019 #410

You forget the MSM True Blue American Jan 2019 #319

Here is something I recently realized - I've been on DU since 2005, and I don't recall... George II Jan 2019 #356

The first time that I heard of Bernie Sanders was in 1998 when he co-sponsored legislation TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #415

I remember hearing about sanders plan to primary President Obama Gothmog Jan 2019 #422

He isn't a socialist either. smh... essme Jan 2019 #291

Whataboutism. ehrnst Jan 2019 #331

Nice insult... score one for you! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #338

That's what those arguments are called. ehrnst Jan 2019 #339

Looks like YOU'RE the one now "arguing from a very emotional place," as you like to say. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #343

Just pointing out the obvious. ehrnst Jan 2019 #344

That's not what we're talking about... don't pretend. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #347

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Don't pretend it's not. ehrnst Jan 2019 #350

Yes, calm down, that's it... reflect much?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #353

Again, I think Bernie will be fine without you picking fights with anyone ehrnst Jan 2019 #355

Guess not. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #358

You'll be too exhausted to actually do anything for him at this rate. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #360

How so? lapucelle Jan 2019 #48

"Before we even begin"? shanny Jan 2019 #90

The author of the opinion piece doesn't limit his discussion to BS supporters. lapucelle Jan 2019 #103

True Shanny, but, I must admonish you for using facts and reason when it comes to Bernie. LOL! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #362

... shanny Jan 2019 #387

Anyone who followed the election could see this if they wanted to... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #18

"Bernistas"... okay. Bernie-bots anyone?! Why the decisiveness?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #34

It is not devisive True Blue American Jan 2019 #42

He really turned me off when he ditched the Democratic party the minute he lost the catbyte Jan 2019 #54

A "squatter"?! Hey, that's a new one... kudos!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #66

And the Media chimes True Blue American Jan 2019 #78

Squatter fits! True Blue American Jan 2019 #93

Oh, okay, a "pretender," I see. And "far sighted ideas," LOL, good one!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #65

Bernie made it clear he was a pretender True Blue American Jan 2019 #80

"far sight"? shanny Jan 2019 #389

Far left! True Blue American Jan 2019 #390

oh OK shanny Jan 2019 #392

Depends on what True Blue American Jan 2019 #394

republicons called us 'Clintonistas' at the demand of rush limbaugh RandiFan1290 Jan 2019 #83

Yes, caught that!! How original, indeed. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #87

We're already seeing the "I won't vote for the nominee if you're not nice to me" mcar Jan 2019 #97

I agree with you there... I don't giva shit WHO the nominee is, I would walk over hot coals to vote InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #118

I'm with you mcar Jan 2019 #131

Indeed we are, some tried to warn...some tried to warn sigh Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #209

You seem to be in the mood to accuse everyone who doesn't agree with you ehrnst Jan 2019 #341

100%. They way he scowled all the way through the convention... Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #35

It sure as hell doesn't.. Cha Jan 2019 #37

Hey Baby! Mahalo to you! nt Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #39

Some participants inside the convention seemed willing to continue to damage the Democratic nominee, lapucelle Jan 2019 #52

Yep. Those were not bots at that convention. They were hardened berners. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #57

The behavior of Bernie's delegates at the DNC was unforgivable. yardwork Jan 2019 #77

And they think we forget True Blue American Jan 2019 #91

Remember the Fart-a-Thon! /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #113

These sanders protesters were kept far away fron the convention Gothmog Jan 2019 #201

People noticed it on TV, social media and other media . Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #346

I was at the convention and no one there paid attention Gothmog Jan 2019 #364

Bernie called out the noxious, sexist "Bernie bros" publicly.. whathehell Jan 2019 #114

There you go again... citing facts!! You're standing in the way of a good Bernie bashing!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #119

Lol..You got that right! whathehell Jan 2019 #135

Show me. Link it. Did he stop his delegates from organizing the booing of John Lewis? yardwork Jan 2019 #142

Here whathehell Jan 2019 #297

A week after the fact, in a brief statement that seemed to show that he was unaware of the extent LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #302

Nothing would be ernough for some. whathehell Jan 2019 #304

Indeed. ehrnst Jan 2019 #330

Then stop making them. Your link said nothing about the booing of John Lewis, which is what you LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #333

The Texas delegation shared a bus with the Georgia delegation Gothmog Jan 2019 #369

You "stop making them"...I responded to a general accusation that whathehell Jan 2019 #411

You do know that sanders did not apologize Gothmog Jan 2019 #420

I was at the convention and sanders did nothing to stop the protests occuring during the convention Gothmog Jan 2019 #368

Remember when he told his supporters to not share the Russian propaganda ehrnst Jan 2019 #329

After the Vegas convention he condemned violence, but not his supporters. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #159

So was this... lapucelle Jan 2019 #161

My whip told me that sanders was asked to talk to his delegates and he declined Gothmog Jan 2019 #204

Did BS ever condemn the dollar bill incident? N/T lapucelle Jan 2019 #216

Not to my knowledge Gothmog Jan 2019 #221

I just read somewhere that 380 million for Democratic candidates up and down ballot betsuni Jan 2019 #226

Here's what Vox had to say in May 2016: lapucelle Jan 2019 #164

Thank You for the Reality Check, lapucelle. Cha Jan 2019 #170

The Nevada caucus was a harbinger. LisaM Jan 2019 #185

And then to the national convention. N/T lapucelle Jan 2019 #190

When? Gothmog Jan 2019 #199

See post #297. whathehell Jan 2019 #299

So booing Congressman John Lewis was acceptable Gothmog Jan 2019 #313

Again, read the post. whathehell Jan 2019 #324

I did and it did not support your claims Gothmog Jan 2019 #336

Wrong. My links address his behavior THROUGHOUT the campaign whathehell Jan 2019 #408

Did you read the articles that you linked to? Gothmog Jan 2019 #418

Bernie's supporters like me were light-years ahead in supporting Hillary against Shroom-Head... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #70

Bullshit... SidDithers Jan 2019 #108

Know your history & learn from it. The constant Bernie bashin by some duz NOTHING 2 unite our party. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #117

Like BS' bashing of the Dem party "did Cha Jan 2019 #217

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #268

This is what I was talking about. ehrnst Jan 2019 #348

I know the truth hurts, which is why u felt u must mischaracterize my arguments and hurl insults. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #351

I see we now have the classic ehrnst Jan 2019 #352

We warned the third party spoiler voters, the slash and burn crowd bent on denying lapucelle Jan 2019 #374

+1 BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #126

Confusing your opinion with fact won't either. whathehell Jan 2019 #412

So, what do you think of their behavior during the convention. Look at the picture Lapucelle lunamagica Jan 2019 #138

Of course that was wrong and I've condemned that & similar acts InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #144

Again, I ask, did they try to sabotage Obama's nomination at the convention? Did they Boo him, turn lunamagica Jan 2019 #146

There was also a lot of head butting in 08 between the Clinton and Obama camps. progressoid Jan 2019 #307

Did they make an spectacle of themselves at the '08 convention? Did they try to sabotage Obama lunamagica Jan 2019 #311

The Google machine can help with that. progressoid Jan 2019 #314

Sorry, but I don't see where they tried to sabotage THE CONVENTION lunamagica Jan 2019 #315

Sorry, I missed the convention part of your request. progressoid Jan 2019 #403

Don't hold back. ehrnst Jan 2019 #349

Resentmenty certainly did run deep in 2008. progressoid Jan 2019 #398

Not sure who you are responding to. ehrnst Jan 2019 #406

That first one was not at the convention but at a reception sponsored by the RNC. Two others.... George II Jan 2019 #372

You're right. None of those links talk about Clinton supporters booing anyone at the convention. progressoid Jan 2019 #402

... lapucelle Jan 2019 #189

... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #265

At the convention, that scowl certainly didn't do much to evoke any sense... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #76

True, some will continue to believe what was said earlier in many cases karynnj Jan 2019 #143

That wasn't my point. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #163

+1, salty from the start uponit7771 Jan 2019 #106

Amen! jrthin Jan 2019 #225

So standing up for what u believe not the Dem way..got it dembotoz Jan 2019 #19

Why does he think the Democratic Party is a "failed ideology" of "liberal elites," betsuni Jan 2019 #20

He rings true out here.... that's how many see it dembotoz Jan 2019 #26

Those people are wrong. betsuni Jan 2019 #27

I see else that a possible Dem candidate first stop is wall steetbankers dembotoz Jan 2019 #28

Isn't Wall Street a large employment sector in New York? R B Garr Jan 2019 #33

in the us vs them world....they are the them out here We don't care about ny dembotoz Jan 2019 #43

Who is this "we" that doesn't care about New York? N/T lapucelle Jan 2019 #59

the fly over states those who when wells fargo pukes we wipe our heads dembotoz Jan 2019 #73

"We" don't care about NY? I bet politicians from New York R B Garr Jan 2019 #88

Then decide whose side r u on dembotoz Jan 2019 #95

A Senator from New York has to pick "sides"?? R B Garr Jan 2019 #98

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #191

LOL, calling everyone corrupt doesn't work either. nt R B Garr Jan 2019 #243

"suckle on bankers" betsuni Jan 2019 #244

No Dem is doing that.. that's just more Cha Jan 2019 #276

Seriously... that's why I just love the way Elizabeth has come out swinging against the InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #298

Too bad she's being savaged on Twitter and FB by the ehrnst Jan 2019 #363

I don't know of any candidate who courts bankers for big donations (illegal) or speaking fees. George II Jan 2019 #375

No problem.. I'm on the side of reality. Cha Jan 2019 #274

Oh yes.. the boogieman "wall street". Cha Jan 2019 #250

You certainly have no faith in Democratic candidates, do you? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #371

Ding, ding,ding... indeed, it DOES ring true!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #40

Ding, ding, ding... indeed, it DOES ring true!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #41

Wait...what? It rings true that the Democratic Party is a "failed ideology" of "liberal elites"? lapucelle Jan 2019 #61

They have no idea what they're talking about.. Cha Jan 2019 #75

Amen, Cha! True Blue American Jan 2019 #92

Agreed. c-rational Jan 2019 #120

Thanks. Cha Jan 2019 #400

Wow that's profoundly arrogant dembotoz Jan 2019 #194

It's the FACTS.. Deal with it. Cha Jan 2019 #195

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #200

You're just mad because it was all spelled Codeine Jan 2019 #196

lol! Cha Jan 2019 #212

You need to look in the mirror.. Cha Jan 2019 #227

Please tell me why this is so "profoundly arrogant"? Cha Jan 2019 #393

Well then he can stay out of our party. Adrahil Jan 2019 #150

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #166

So nice someone gave u the power as to who stays and who goes dembotoz Jan 2019 #187

Straw man. Adrahil Jan 2019 #337

Yes, that's a "strawman". Cha Jan 2019 #452

It pisses off a lot Cha Jan 2019 #285

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #288

+1 Historic NY Jan 2019 #305

Are YOU saying it is true that Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #211

Well, I believe in fairies, so there you go. betsuni Jan 2019 #248

Well, it's not true. Cha Jan 2019 #395

Yes, supporting progressive Democratic policies is not good enough if your name is Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #36

sad isn't it dembotoz Jan 2019 #69

Incredibly sad... apparently, the Democratic "big tent" just isn't big enough for Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #72

They fear him and his ideology Palisade Jan 2019 #214

... Cha Jan 2019 #239

It should not be overdone treestar Jan 2019 #46

compromise is best done when both sides give a bit...i don't see that dembotoz Jan 2019 #71

Not voting or voting for jill RF stein Cha Jan 2019 #241

Which is what at least one Sanders delegate said she would do at the convention: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #426

Yeah, part of the problem.. those Cha Jan 2019 #428

That would be fine,If True Blue American Jan 2019 #111

NO!!! But there are times when it is prudent to set aside your most cherished wants to gain a Blue_true Jan 2019 #128

That's not what this is about.. it's Cha Jan 2019 #238

"What this data says is that many Sanders supporters were not voting for him but against Hillary" betsuni Jan 2019 #23

Wow. babylonsister Jan 2019 #24

Oh hey, it's all about me! betsuni Jan 2019 #25

This article explains that the same "ugly" tactics are being R B Garr Jan 2019 #31

Excellent points, but, sadly, you're wasting your time, as do I. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #38

Straw man treestar Jan 2019 #47

Really. Thank You, treestar. Cha Jan 2019 #50

I disagree. There remains a staunch cadre of "Berners" to this day whose Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #30

Many people were convinced by lies and propaganda. yardwork Jan 2019 #82

yeah. but they aren't enough in numbers JI7 Jan 2019 #176

I saw exactly the same thing. yardwork Jan 2019 #79

That kind of thinking is lazy in the context of 2016. When there are only two choices... TCJ70 Jan 2019 #109

I remember seeing on DU years ago, posters saying Bernie never Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #29

You know what that commentary is missing? Martin Eden Jan 2019 #45

Like saying Hillary wasn't qualified to be president? MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #49

I don't see the actual quote in the commentary or your post Martin Eden Jan 2019 #51

If? MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #53

Apparently you don't Martin Eden Jan 2019 #56

Trust me, I wish we could. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #63

"It makes no sense to say we can't talk here about things Bernie said. " LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #107

And yet, here you are, talking about it. nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #101

Right here; the video starts with it: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #102

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #67

Pretty far from what was claimed ... Martin Eden Jan 2019 #81

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2019 #110

"Let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don't believe that she is qualified LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #115

Thank you. That's what I was asking for. Martin Eden Jan 2019 #123

It's frustrating that you have to post that disclaimer. Adrahil Jan 2019 #446

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #448

Would you prefer he shut up and finagle himself a Cabinet position? Probably. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #112

You left out the persecution and victim complex a lot of his followers still carry BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #130

Now, did any Hillary supporters behave the same way when Obama was nominated? lunamagica Jan 2019 #140

Yes, some die-hard PUMAs refused to give up. The difference is that as soon as Clinton lost LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #145

Samantha Bee did a 7-minute segment on this back then: George II Jan 2019 #234

Ugh. betsuni Jan 2019 #270

"If you're going to protest your perceived disenfranchisement, maybe don't do it by heckling the guy LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #376

Why let the facts get in the way of a good Bernie's bashing?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #74

It's what Bernie didn't do. yardwork Jan 2019 #84

Start with this thread: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #100

In that email he's bashing "Wall Street Democrats" yet.... George II Jan 2019 #237

Is it a coincidence that his behavior in 2016 was aligned with Russia's strategy? Renew Deal Jan 2019 #55

Things that make you go, hmmmm. Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #58

They fell for Russia's attacks Renew Deal Jan 2019 #68

Russia and others were supporting sanders Gothmog Jan 2019 #223

No coincidence at all. We now have proof. yardwork Jan 2019 #85

You certainly do not have proof melman Jan 2019 #132

It's all around you. Cha Jan 2019 #434

No melman Jan 2019 #437

Yes it is. Cha Jan 2019 #438

Then show it melman Jan 2019 #439

It's all over the place. Cha Jan 2019 #440

Show it melman Jan 2019 #441

Just read them Cha Jan 2019 #442

Read what? melman Jan 2019 #443

they're all over the place. Cha Jan 2019 #444

So you say melman Jan 2019 #445

So.. others say it, too. Cha Jan 2019 #447

But still no link melman Jan 2019 #449

The title of the OP is a clue. Cha Jan 2019 #450

Thank you! That Tad Devine/Paul Manafort connection R B Garr Jan 2019 #89

It bothers me a great deal that Russia and Putin pushed sanders and helped him Gothmog Jan 2019 #205

Excellent Question! Cha Jan 2019 #247

+1, my understanding is the Russians were helping him too uponit7771 Jan 2019 #416

Hopefully This Time Around Me. Jan 2019 #60

The difference this time? peggysue2 Jan 2019 #64

You had me until you lost me with Gillibrand. lark Jan 2019 #94

Institutional sexism will do their work for them mcar Jan 2019 #96

and LOTS of Russian Interlopers. He is part of the left side of the horse shoe Baltimike Jan 2019 #99

Sander's is IMO still immensely popular and if he decides to run and meets the criteria will CentralMass Jan 2019 #104

Bernie Sanders Declines Democratic Senatorial Nomination (2018) TomCADem Jan 2019 #121

This underscores the very real possibility that Sanders would reject serving as a Democrat, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #127

The rules have been changed Gothmog Jan 2019 #215

Well, Codeine Jan 2019 #198

You probably should review why Booker and other Senators voted against the import... George II Jan 2019 #257

Taking care of constituents, that's why Bernie Sanders supported a 1.5 trillion weapons program. betsuni Jan 2019 #267

That isn't the reason people are concerned about Beto. You do not see the same things about JCanete Jan 2019 #116

I'm not sure that's the case, my niece was all for Bernie in 2016, but now thinks Beto is the OnDoutside Jan 2019 #154

that's true Beto could certainly pull some young voters, nor was I suggesting he wouldn't be a JCanete Jan 2019 #306

The both of them are probably eating away at both ends of his potential base, but I agree with you OnDoutside Jan 2019 #335

Why the Bernie Movement Must Crush Beto O'Rourke Gothmog Jan 2019 #207

Wow, another article trashing Bernie. His populist rhetoric must be scaring some powerful interests. jalan48 Jan 2019 #122

August 2015 called and it wants its talking point back BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #134

Corpos rule! jalan48 Jan 2019 #136

lOL k0rPORaTi0nS...the answer to everything. nt R B Garr Jan 2019 #139

"Corporations are people too my friend"-Mitt Romney. jalan48 Jan 2019 #141

Mitt Romney is a Republican. You were insinuating R B Garr Jan 2019 #149

Insinuating? Not at all. I think the current corporate state is a big fucking problem. jalan48 Jan 2019 #202

Anything "corporations" is also used as an insult to R B Garr Jan 2019 #242

I'm talking about the actual people running the corporations. I assume most of them are Republicans jalan48 Jan 2019 #249

You were responding to post 134. It was about an old R B Garr Jan 2019 #252

My bad. Corpos are ubiquitous and their influence on our political process is the same. jalan48 Jan 2019 #254

It's also an insult to fellow Democrats, hence my comment that R B Garr Jan 2019 #255

Yes, maybe Corporate State Representatives would be less offensive jalan48 Jan 2019 #259

Trying to insult people about corporations is a worn out R B Garr Jan 2019 #269

It's not an insult, we live in a Corporate State. jalan48 Jan 2019 #273

We know where the insult originated and how it is an R B Garr Jan 2019 #277

Do you know of any non-dictatorship that isn't a "corporate state"? George II Jan 2019 #284

Not that I know of. There are differences in regulations on corporations within the system I believe jalan48 Jan 2019 #286

So, apparently you're not happy with "corporate states". In that case.... George II Jan 2019 #292

Climate Change. I don't think our current Corporate State is capable of jalan48 Jan 2019 #293

The article doesn't trash Bernie Renew Deal Jan 2019 #151

Daily threads trashing Bernie and Progressives. Corporate Bots? jalan48 Jan 2019 #203

We corporate bots are paid by David Brock, too, don't forget, besides all the corporations and betsuni Jan 2019 #206

"trashing" BS.. I call it shining the Light on what happened.. Cha Jan 2019 #409

Scaring the hell out of them, indeed Palisade Jan 2019 #218

The non-stop assault on Bernie and Progressives in the media is a little too obvious. jalan48 Jan 2019 #220

"The corpos?" Who are you talking about? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #328

No answer? ehrnst Jan 2019 #366

Keep Reading jalan48 Jan 2019 #384

So, no answer. ehrnst Jan 2019 #407

The only accurate item in this whole article is... mojowork_n Jan 2019 #124

This is not just the Sanders' supporters karynnj Jan 2019 #129

I support Bernie. Perhaps, after the debates, I'll choose someone else, but as of now ... nt earthshine Jan 2019 #133

I was happy to vote for Bernie Sanders before, and may be happy to do so again. David__77 Jan 2019 #152

This writer lives in a weird alternative universe. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #137

Bernie: Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we don't agree with anything the Dems say TomCADem Jan 2019 #153

Bernie and supporters are not savaging Democrats aikoaiko Jan 2019 #177

Fake News? Those Are Bernie's Quotes... TomCADem Jan 2019 #210

Saturday's bullshit story. Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #155

Does anyone know if Democratic primaries will require candidates to release their full OnDoutside Jan 2019 #156

All this constant hate on Senator Sanders is actually hurting the Democratic Party... ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #157

NBC:Bernie Sanders' fans can't be allowed to poison another Democratic primary with personal attacks TomCADem Jan 2019 #158

Your post demonstrates my point...unfortunately ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #160

I Am Glad We Agree. TomCADem Jan 2019 #162

Lol. David Fucking Brock? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #165

Yes, we all know David Brock's past.. and Cha Jan 2019 #453

Your Brock is a "boogieman" is NOT Working. Cha Jan 2019 #454

You do realize Elizabeth Warren said a lot of the same things Sanders supporters said Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #167

Elizabeth Runs as a Democrat. She is part of a movement TomCADem Jan 2019 #208

Well, she sure seems to get along with him. Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #261

BS' Divisiveness is what keeps getting him on Cha Jan 2019 #271

I have generally stayed out of all these Sanders attack threads Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #275

Why don't you just read the Cha Jan 2019 #278

Yeah, just mellowing out because we are on the same side is something that someone ehrnst Jan 2019 #325

I'm sure that all those attacks on Warren on Twitter and FB with the hashtag ehrnst Jan 2019 #326

Elizabeth Warren is the real deal. Besides that, never known her to run a scorched-earth campaign emulatorloo Jan 2019 #213

Warren is my top pick right now Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #272

Scorched earth has a specific meaning. It doesn't mean "standing up for what you believe in" emulatorloo Jan 2019 #280

Right, that's ridiculous to equate "Scorched Earth" Cha Jan 2019 #282

Oh I assume poster just wasn't aware of the definition of scorched earth emulatorloo Jan 2019 #308

Elizabeth Warren is inclusive.. she Cha Jan 2019 #435

Yeah, that's the huge difference between her and BS. Cha Jan 2019 #279

The title of your OP says it all. Cha Jan 2019 #192

No, BS going on CNN on Nov 16, 2016 After trump Cha Jan 2019 #169

Wrong. Sanders did not call the dem Party the financial elite in his email. ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #171

Don't try to rewrite history with me.. BS went on CNN Cha Jan 2019 #172

I couldn't find a CNN video on Sanders saying that... ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #173

It's a fact. BS is too Divisive. Cha Jan 2019 #174

Let's see a link then melman Jan 2019 #175

"Bernie Sanders tells California audience that Democrats 'cannot be the party of the liberal elite'" LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #179

That wasn't the claim melman Jan 2019 #180

It's been posted many times.. look it up yourself Cha Jan 2019 #181

No melman Jan 2019 #183

Haha.. i just found it by Googling.. Cha Jan 2019 #184

My work? melman Jan 2019 #186

... Cha Jan 2019 #188

Okay melman Jan 2019 #193

We wish BS would have never gone on tv Cha Jan 2019 #197

It happened, more than once, during his November 2016 book tour. George II Jan 2019 #219

Let's see a link then melman Jan 2019 #222

link, 11/13/16, Sanders: Trump Won Because Democrats Focused Too Much On Wealthy "Liberal Elite" ucrdem Jan 2019 #228

Sorry melman Jan 2019 #231

You're Good, ucr.. this was After the GE! Cha Jan 2019 #258

It's worse than I remembered. ucrdem Jan 2019 #295

I know.. thanks to you Cha Jan 2019 #296

That's just one of several, maybe even many. George II Jan 2019 #263

Yes he seemed anxious to get his side of the story out first. nt ucrdem Jan 2019 #294

November 14, 2016: "It is not good enough to have a liberal elite. I come from the white working betsuni Jan 2019 #229

That's not a link melman Jan 2019 #230

Here: betsuni Jan 2019 #232

Sorry melman Jan 2019 #233

What was the original claim you're looking for? betsuni Jan 2019 #235

Crickets. ucrdem Jan 2019 #240

That was weird. betsuni Jan 2019 #245

Really weird. nt ucrdem Jan 2019 #246

I posted this.. got the date off by 2 days I see.. Cha Jan 2019 #251

I don't even know what kind of logical fallacy that falls under. betsuni Jan 2019 #253

That's BS' face talking on CNN with Wolf Cha Jan 2019 #256

And, he did on Face the Nation, too.. Cha Jan 2019 #260

Why are you asking me? melman Jan 2019 #266

Oh, melman. Bernie has called Democrats elites so many times, what different does it make betsuni Jan 2019 #281

Anyone who can't easily find these, and many more, hasn't really been looking. George II Jan 2019 #334

No link? No Proof? But it's a fact???????????? ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #178

It's not my problem you can't find it. Cha Jan 2019 #182

Yep. George II Jan 2019 #262

No, the "divisiveness" is coming from BS like Cha Jan 2019 #396

yeah, you sure use the word "hate" a lot instead of Cha Jan 2019 #413

I am still angry over that e-mail Gothmog Jan 2019 #224

Yeah, That Divisive email.. Cha Jan 2019 #236

Exactly. Well said ProgLibDem. Owl Jan 2019 #373

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.... George II Jan 2019 #401

Millions and Millions of People do Not support BS. Cha Jan 2019 #397

I don't agree with all of the article Jarqui Jan 2019 #283

This article totally resonates with those Cha Jan 2019 #287

And so the division begins and it's not even 2020 yet. Beware folks, it's all part of the plan. YOHABLO Jan 2019 #303

It started a long time ago with Cha Jan 2019 #312

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #367

The ugly campaigning is far from exclusive to Sanders NinaNeon Jan 2019 #322

Nobody is saying it was only him. Cha Jan 2019 #386

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Some things bring it out of us LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #365

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I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Jan 2019 #388

Not isolated either. True Blue American Jan 2019 #391

lol.. your denial of the facts on the ground is Cha Jan 2019 #399

+ 1000 Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #380

Have you vistied JPR? Gothmog Jan 2019 #377

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Look really closely at the title of this OP.. Cha Jan 2019 #385

Bernie Sanders has a problem Gothmog Jan 2019 #370

Note to Bernie haters: your redundancy is gettin' old. Time to let that shit go. Magoo48 Jan 2019 #378

Note to Magoo.. BS' redunancy of attacking the Dem Cha Jan 2019 #383

Are any of Bernie's criticisms of the party valid? Magoo48 Jan 2019 #404

No. Cha Jan 2019 #405

+1 ucrdem Jan 2019 #414

I found another "link" today.. Cha Jan 2019 #419

Not at all, not coming from his context ... Hell naw uponit7771 Jan 2019 #417

His criticisms are based on the idea that the Democratic Party does not care about betsuni Jan 2019 #421

Scorched-Earth Politics Gothmog Jan 2019 #423

Thanks, Goth.. Cha Jan 2019 #425

... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #427

.. Cha Jan 2019 #430

Wow. Excellent recap /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #429

There is some great material in that article Gothmog Jan 2019 #431

It Seems With Kamala Harris, They Are Back In Force TomCADem Jan 2019 #455

The sanders supporters were busy today Gothmog Jan 2019 #456

He broke the ground for a focused "middle class" message, but now others... LAS14 Jan 2019 #432

What's "the carceral state?" nt LAS14 Jan 2019 #433

K&R LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #457

K&R highplainsdem Feb 2019 #458