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Honeycombe8

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36. I don't know how old you are...
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jan 2019

but maybe you don't remember what things were like a few decades ago. Maybe you don't remember when the big bills that were difficult to pass, got passed.

That may be the problem. For some voters, they simply don't know what they don't know. And they don't know history.

There are things still to be done. Some big things.

The way government works, though, is that this is not a dictatorship. We are seeing someone try to make it one. But one party pushes for things, and the opposition pushes back. Oftentimes, a compromise is reached. Otherwise, nothing at all is done. Instead of a leap forward, a step forward is taken.

In government, we have to deal with all the people. From the far right to the far left, and all those in between

We can get much done in the House, since we are in control. But unless the Republicans in the Senate approve it, nothing will become law. Even then, unless the President signs it, it won't become law.

This is what we have to work through to change laws or make new ones. Neither party can do that alone, if it's not in control of the two houses of Congress and the executive branch...and even then, has a super majority in the Senate. Even then, it can be challenged in the US Sct...where the opposition has placed a majority of conservative justices.

I think it's great that Cortez was elected for her district. Even if I didn't, it's none of my business, since that's not my state or district. I happen to think an influx of new, young people into the party is a good thing. But there's an oversensitivity to any comment that is anything but absolute adoration...even a "people aren't all good or bad" was objected to, as relates to Cortez.

But what does Cortez want to accomplish? An increase in taxes for the wealthy? Okay...where's her introduced bill for that? That's all I'm saying. She hasn't actually done anything yet. Does she want to do away w/the electoral college? Where's her bill for that? I'll tell you where that bill is...it was introduced on the first day of this House of Rep session by someone else who was working to get things done. By not a big name...Steve Cohen, TN Democrat. He's introduced that Resolution for three years in a row.

Or does she want to reduce the influence of big money in politics? Where's her bill for that? Too late...that was introduced by the little known John Sarbanes (Maryland Democratic rep) on the first day of this House of Rep session. He apparently had done actual work on legislation before the session began, and was ready to introduce his bill on the first day.

This is what it takes to effect change. Talk is good. It really is. It's important to speak truth. If you're silent when lies are told, then the public has only the lies to go by. But the only thing that changes anything in the legislature is legislation itself.

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Anderson Cooper is a good guy but when you look at his roots you understand why he thinks Autumn Jan 2019 #1
Anderson Cooper is the radical... time for him & his 1% pals to pay the fuck up!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #2
His net worth is $ 100 million. So yeah fair taxes to that bracket are radical. nt Autumn Jan 2019 #10
Supposedly Cooper gets none of the family fortune rurallib Jan 2019 #4
Anderson Cooper Vanderbilt ... aggiesal Jan 2019 #7
In case you don't know, Cooper is the only surviving child of Gloria Vanderbilt... hedda_foil Jan 2019 #23
Yeah I knew that but wanted to be careful how I phrased it. Autumn Jan 2019 #32
This is why AOC is so important. ZX86 Jan 2019 #3
BBBut didn't someone say she should sit down and learn at the feet Ford_Prefect Jan 2019 #5
The article doesn't give her accolades for disrespecting those who did the work... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #9
If they have accomplished so much why do the wealthy have a lower tax rate than say a secretary? Autumn Jan 2019 #11
You've just seen why. There are consequences to losing elections. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #20
And yet a WOC who won her election and is bringing the idea mainstream is Autumn Jan 2019 #34
I don't know how old you are... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #36
I'm in my 60s and I well remember bills being passed that did not benefit American people. Autumn Jan 2019 #38
40 or 50 years ago, the wealthy tax rate was 90%. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #45
In 1981 the tax rate was cut to 50% and it's gone down with just a Autumn Jan 2019 #46
No one ever paid 90%. shanny Jan 2019 #80
I didn't say "paid." I said the tax rate used to be 90%. Indeed it was. Over 90%, actually. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #86
the top marginal rate shanny Jan 2019 #87
Wow, that was a whole bunch of condescension packed in there hueymahl Jan 2019 #39
⬆️ This. ⬆️ JudyM Jan 2019 #43
+1 crazycatlady Jan 2019 #49
You kids, Get off my Lawn! hueymahl Jan 2019 #66
I'm an 80s baby myself crazycatlady Jan 2019 #70
Google the repug party. That's why tax rates on the wealthy are so low. brush Jan 2019 #53
I don't have to google. Elections have consequences as has been pointed several times Autumn Jan 2019 #57
The title of your post seems to say something different. brush Jan 2019 #58
Then read past the title or ignore it. Autumn Jan 2019 #59
I read both title and article. If the title is not what you mean, change it. brush Jan 2019 #60
But she still has 1st amendment rights Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #12
For now...n/t bluecollar2 Jan 2019 #31
"No one is all good or all bad" - I have to challenge you on this one - Trump is all bad womanofthehills Jan 2019 #13
She got elected and took down Crowley. Autumn Jan 2019 #47
I don't recall Rosa Parks ZX86 Jan 2019 #14
Very well said nt Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #15
Oh, I see. This is a Pelosi vs. Cortez thing. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #21
This right here Autumn Jan 2019 #48
Surely, you're not putting Ocasio-Cortez in the same category as or comparing her to Rosa Parks? EffieBlack Jan 2019 #52
Yes I am. ZX86 Jan 2019 #54
Wow. EffieBlack Jan 2019 #55
Enthusiastic support of Democrats surprises you? ZX86 Jan 2019 #56
No. EffieBlack Jan 2019 #61
Wow. ZX86 Jan 2019 #62
So you're diminishing Rosa Parks' importance because she wasn't a politician? ehrnst Jan 2019 #63
If only Mrs. Parks had lived up to the legacy of Rep. Ocasio-Cortez EffieBlack Jan 2019 #67
Someone also said that the AOCs of the world need to allow themselves to be mothered... SMC22307 Jan 2019 #16
Yup, yup... but that's usually the way WOC are disrespectful treated... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #17
And she's outstanding at debunking their KPN Jan 2019 #6
You can say that again!! AOC is an absolute treasure!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #18
'xactly shanny Jan 2019 #78
I'd caution references to Overton Theory JHan Jan 2019 #8
Thanks for that information on where "Overton Window" originated. ehrnst Jan 2019 #24
Lol--The New Republic shanny Jan 2019 #81
If u have a problem with anything she said point it out JHan Jan 2019 #82
"elitist libertarian concept" shanny Jan 2019 #83
Again,, nothing u can point to JHan Jan 2019 #84
Disagree. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #19
Excellent post nt EffieBlack Jan 2019 #22
+1000. ehrnst Jan 2019 #25
+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #26
totally agree scarytomcat Jan 2019 #27
well said NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #29
agree with this as well, except about the silencing. its harder to put the cork back in nt JCanete Jan 2019 #37
Do you remember when Howard Dean was on his meteoric rise? Caliman73 Jan 2019 #42
The outburst of emotion was the night of the Iowa caucuses which he was expected to win karynnj Jan 2019 #73
Oh yeah, but that is a little different. That's intentionally making a candidate implode. JCanete Jan 2019 #79
Not to take anything away from AOC, but... Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #28
Every generation thinks they invented air EffieBlack Jan 2019 #30
The Republican con job about gov't, taxes and business good DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #33
My point is EffieBlack Jan 2019 #35
People have been speaking about many things for years and no one listened hueymahl Jan 2019 #41
Exactly DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #44
No one listened? EffieBlack Jan 2019 #50
Ok, if you want to play word games hueymahl Jan 2019 #65
But thank God, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez came along to sound the call for the world to hear EffieBlack Jan 2019 #68
You are hilarious hueymahl Jan 2019 #72
Whatever EffieBlack Jan 2019 #74
Ha! Exactly. betsuni Jan 2019 #75
It's just funny, every post about her, there you are hueymahl Jan 2019 #76
Actually, I don't have time to respond to the hundreds and hundreds of posts about her EffieBlack Jan 2019 #77
I would say that the millenials stepping forward have learned an awful lot about our history hueymahl Jan 2019 #40
As I said, every generation thinks the previous one "royally screwed up" EffieBlack Jan 2019 #51
As a member of the previous generation hueymahl Jan 2019 #64
Sure. That's why the "Greatest Generation" got called that Mariana Jan 2019 #69
They weren't called that until several decades after EffieBlack Jan 2019 #71
in fact the young people back then were even more JI7 Jan 2019 #85
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