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jberryhill

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57. What is it we disagree about?

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:47 PM

Jan 2019

I'm not even sure what it is we disagree about.

The piece is deceptively written. If someone wants to argue for a special provision under which prescription pharmaceutical advertising is not a deductible business expense, then they should do so honestly, and not act as if it is a "loophole" or special benefit to them of some kind.

Secondly, the pharmaceutical business has never been considered to be anything other than a profit making business. Or do you also have an issue with advertising of over-the-counter medications as well?

But if the issue is "healthcare advertising" more broadly, then I see advertisements for hospitals and medical practices on television all of the time. I see advertisements for cancer treatment centers, and other specialty medical services. Why should they be excluded from the same effort? I also see advertisements for health insurance.

Since your point is about "healthcare", then surely you agree that Shaheen does not go far enough here, and that the elimination of the deductibility of advertising expenses should go for ALL "healthcare" businesses. Correct?

Or are doctors and hospitals not, in your opinion, "vital and necessary services" which operate under heavy regulation?

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"Could they get any greedier?" volstork Jan 2019 #1

Yes, sadly it is true PatSeg Jan 2019 #5

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This is a very important post malaise Jan 2019 #2

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Seventeen??? PatSeg Jan 2019 #6

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Yes and no jberryhill Jan 2019 #50

K & R....for visibility..... dhill926 Jan 2019 #4

Aren't all types of businesses allowed Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2019 #8

Yes--Advertising is a 100% write off to all businesses. mtngirl47 Jan 2019 #20

I did not know that FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #63

It's an expense - like any other expense jberryhill Jan 2019 #64

K & R pandr32 Jan 2019 #9

EVERY company has this "loophole" because it is a bullshit claim jberryhill Jan 2019 #48

Many (most) of those ads are aimed at senior citizens FakeNoose Jan 2019 #10

Since cutting the cable cord shanti Jan 2019 #19

Follow the money Pantagruel Jan 2019 #11

It's not just TV. Leaf through monthly magazines luvtheGWN Jan 2019 #12

More like 'research and deveopment' PatSeg Jan 2019 #14

My favorite ones are when they are tearing through the side effects, House of Roberts Jan 2019 #22

It is jberryhill Jan 2019 #33

Not exactly a pleasant visual!!! PatSeg Jan 2019 #44

No wonder we get a barrage of ads. They spend other people's money. What a PR cash cow. ancianita Jan 2019 #13

Is that really a loophole? TheFarseer Jan 2019 #15

That did occur to me PatSeg Jan 2019 #42

You could say the same thing about automobiles jberryhill Jan 2019 #51

Healthcare has always been considered PatSeg Jan 2019 #54

What is it we disagree about? jberryhill Jan 2019 #57

Okay, that is where I can agree with you PatSeg Jan 2019 #59

"I come from an era" jberryhill Jan 2019 #61

Much older than you PatSeg Jan 2019 #65

Advertising isn't a special loophole zaj Jan 2019 #17

I agree. StatGirl Jan 2019 #55

The US & New Zealand area51 Jan 2019 #18

I thought advertising was a standard business expense that's tax deductible? CaptainTruth Jan 2019 #23

Yeah, something's fishy about that quote in OP. Not enough information to make any case. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #39

That came from Shaheen's email PatSeg Jan 2019 #46

That's really deceptively worded jberryhill Jan 2019 #49

Yup. It is anti-progressive to use dishonestly deceptive wording for progressive causes. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #56

K & R mountain grammy Jan 2019 #24

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Kick dalton99a Jan 2019 #27

All pharma ads should be banned from media. nt mastermind Jan 2019 #28

Are you f'ing kidding me?! What's the loophole? How didit get there? I wanna know the details. KPN Jan 2019 #29

The loophole is that businesses deduct expenses jberryhill Jan 2019 #30

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Because consumers can't buy their products on their own authority? fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #35

I'd bet half the people watching football can't buy beer jberryhill Jan 2019 #37

Non Sequitur. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #66

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Close the loophole!!!! That's outrageous! nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #34

There is no loophole jberryhill Jan 2019 #47

Ahhh. I see. Thx. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #62

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