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pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:19 AM Jan 2019

Obama's little-noticed gift to the USA on his way out the door, in January 2017. [View all]

Just before he left, Obama signed an executive order that made it much easier for the FBI to investigate Trump and his co-conspirators.

Thanks also to Loretta Lynch and James Clapper for their part of this.

These tweets are part of a much longer thread -- the whole thing is worth reading.






https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html


Jan. 12, 2017

WASHINGTON — In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.

The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches.

The change means that far more officials will be searching through raw data. Essentially, the government is reducing the risk that the N.S.A. will fail to recognize that a piece of information would be valuable to another agency, but increasing the risk that officials will see private information about innocent people.

Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch signed the new rules, permitting the N.S.A. to disseminate “raw signals intelligence information,” on Jan. 3, after the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., signed them on Dec. 15, according to a 23-page, largely declassified copy of the procedures.



The tweets above are included toward the end of this very long thread, accessible at this link even to those not on Twitter (but you should be). It's all worth reading:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1083931796419563520.html

We don’t know what actions that investigation took.

It is fair to assume it included mining ongoing intel from our own resources at the NSA, etc., as well as from allies.

That would have the effect of putting relevant work-product of any ally’s spying in Mueller’s hands.

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Meaning, even if we weren’t eavesdropping on Trump’s convo w Putin, his late-night phone calls, his admin’s back-channel contacts with Russians, etc... someone was.

Whether it was the UK, Germany, Estonia, Spain, Israel, Australia or whomever, EVERYONE spies on Russia...

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...and Mueller had an open folder just waiting to be filled with whatever tasty


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Okay, I’m spinning like a top here so let me bring this in for a landing:

Trump has spent the last two years trying to obstruct an investigation into 2016 events...

...and little did he know, his biggest problem would prove to be what he was doing in 2017-2018.
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Oops! malaise Jan 2019 #1
Thank you President Obama LiberalBrooke Jan 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author PunkinPi Jan 2019 #3
Thank you, Mr. President! GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #4
Still mystified why about by citizenry not being informed before Election Day. delisen Jan 2019 #5
McConnell is complicit Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #6
Because anyone who came forward would have been breaking the law, pnwmom Jan 2019 #7
An address to the nation would not have been breaking the law though. delisen Jan 2019 #9
Who could have divulged classified information in an address to the nation pnwmom Jan 2019 #11
I am referring to prior to the election. delisen Jan 2019 #16
That wouldn't have done anything but make the American people feel more helpless pnwmom Jan 2019 #42
maybe it was to be kept a secret.. samnsara Jan 2019 #37
Obama said that he thought Hillary would easily win so his decisions were BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #66
It seems that Putin was greatly underestimated. delisen Jan 2019 #68
Comey was the nail in the coffin. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #69
I think that President Obama thought that Hillary would win More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #57
nice finish on that thread Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #8
Wow! Yes, excellent finish, Hermit.. Cha Jan 2019 #64
Remember that briefing with Comey, Grassley and Pelosi blaze Jan 2019 #10
That sounds very plausible. nt pnwmom Jan 2019 #12
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #15
I do remember that, volstork Jan 2019 #24
A gift to us by our last real president... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #13
I appreciate the position President Obama was in debsy Jan 2019 #14
They're hands not magic wands. Prez Obama did wonderfully Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #17
I am worried about the mess caused by the secretaries of departments scarytomcat Jan 2019 #34
So true. MLAA Jan 2019 #36
Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my original post. debsy Jan 2019 #41
I believe you I'm just fricken flabbergasted. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #44
where were the God fearin' repubs? luvallpeeps Jan 2019 #65
Aka Leningrad lettuce... Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #67
Well put debsy Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #19
I think you are right- Consider Giuliani's cell of Hillary-hating FBI'ers feeding him damaging info. NBachers Jan 2019 #51
I know! I agree. Even after we reverse all the Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #33
I think maybe today they are waking up to a new reality that thier little Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #45
Recommended. panader0 Jan 2019 #18
We have had 5 eyes for quite a while now. watoos Jan 2019 #20
Right. We have had 5 eyes. The difference now is that the raw data automatically pnwmom Jan 2019 #43
K&R... spanone Jan 2019 #21
What a a refreshing thread! ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #22
Thank you President Obama. nt blaze Jan 2019 #23
Thank you, President Obama. Zoonart Jan 2019 #25
As I recall hearing too BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #26
I remember that clearly: Biden told us flat-out that no one could walk into a single department... Hekate Jan 2019 #48
+1 BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #50
Of course, now the Trump administration has access to this expanded surveillance. sl8 Jan 2019 #27
Do you think they're intelligent enough to use it? paleotn Jan 2019 #29
Interesting. Didn't know he eavesdropped on guests. Nt Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #35
Ironic, really... paleotn Jan 2019 #28
The irony does not escape me, as my husband and I are rooting for the survival of the FBI... Hekate Jan 2019 #49
No, that's not what it says. They are tapping into foreign data streams for counter-intelligence pnwmom Jan 2019 #53
I stand corrected. paleotn Jan 2019 #60
tRUMP strategy to debase, diminish and call into question EVERY law enforcement SayItLoud Jan 2019 #30
If this is true, why didn't Trump simply revoke that EO, like he did others? Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #31
Who would have told him to do so? Someone in his Cabinet full of generals? Other than the generals, pnwmom Jan 2019 #47
Whoever told him about the other EOs? Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #61
I think some of those generals were people sent in with the approval of the GOP to keep pnwmom Jan 2019 #62
It was probably the White House counsel advising him on Obama's EOs. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #63
So, let me get this straight, if I may. JayhawkSD Jan 2019 #32
One of the most impossible things to imagine, is to walk in the shoes of the Excutive, the Ninga Jan 2019 #38
No, that is not what happened.. Just as before, the FBI can ONLY use the data, pnwmom Jan 2019 #40
Really good stuff thank you for posting coeur_de_lion Jan 2019 #39
No drama Obama, just doing the right thing Hekate Jan 2019 #46
The thing about Obama CaptYossarian Jan 2019 #52
I bet Trump will be taking a bottle of Immodium a day! n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #54
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #55
You're likely to get some self righteous posts about invasion of privacy. Blue_true Jan 2019 #56
Remember that at the last minute, Pres. Obama moved Dana Boente lower in the DOJ order of succession More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #58
I think your scenario makes sense. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #59
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