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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
62. +10,000. The huge 2015 response to Elizabeth Warren proved that.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 06:13 PM
Jan 2019

In fact, my thrilled amazement at realizing all those supposedly "apathetic" Democrats most polls insisted they revealed were not apathetic at all. They were like me -- eager to support more and bigger efforts by our representatives, not less. And the representatives I always knew were progressives were thrilled also. Power comes from the people. When the voters don't care, or are believed not to,...

In fact, the polls were overall so consistently very wrong that to this day I'm wondering if there wasn't a plot manipulating a good deal of it. We know most of the big-business MSM boost Republicans and undermine Democrats.

One thing I do know is that the Republicans succeeded in making "liberal" and "Democrat" dirty words by the 1990s, so that fewer people self identified as "anti-family," "anti-moral" "business-hating" "radical" liberals. Yet almost all polls required people to self-identify their political orientation, causing what I always knew had to be severe undercounting.

Beyond doubt the wording of the questions lead to distorted results because the excitement caused by Warren's wonderful achievements proved their evaluations had been tragically wrong since at least the 1990s.

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Keep pushing - we need to change the world!!! walkingman Jan 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #5
Yes!! Winning an election with a progressive agenda will do that... you better believe!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #9
Winning a safe Congressional seat in a liberal district in NYC is hardly saving the world EffieBlack Jan 2019 #15
My response was referring to the upcoming 2020 presidential election, not AOC's. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #40
The personal n she unseated is a progressive... WeekiWater Jan 2019 #37
See #40. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #41
40 defies the known fact that politics is local... WeekiWater Jan 2019 #43
+1000 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #29
Keep COMING, Walking. We need more numbers just as much as last time. Hortensis Jan 2019 #61
She is trying to do that, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #2
Yes, but, sometimes it takes a leader to get the "team" to work together in the right direction. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #10
A leader has to know the field, the rules and the players and earn their respect and trust EffieBlack Jan 2019 #13
Ahhh...Speaker Pelosi is doing just that. brush Jan 2019 #19
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #22
Pls tell me you left off the sarcasm gif because you knew I'd get your drift. brush Jan 2019 #25
Lol, right? Tipperary Jan 2019 #28
I agree, Pelosi had been doing a fine job... but, that's not to say, others can't also contribute InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #23
Agreed. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32
Right TheFarseer Jan 2019 #35
I love how the press portrays this negatively manor321 Jan 2019 #3
No shit. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #7
THIS x 1,000,000,000!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #12
Yeah, I don't recall any "so and so pushes Democrats to the right, like it or not" spin... JHB Jan 2019 #27
+10,000. The huge 2015 response to Elizabeth Warren proved that. Hortensis Jan 2019 #62
I like it fine shanny Jan 2019 #4
+1 Well said! nt earthshine Jan 2019 #16
Bingo!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #24
Oh, FFS. I had taken her name off my trash list, but I'm putting her back on. I like her, Squinch Jan 2019 #6
Bingo. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #8
OR the media is pulling those two subsets around by the nose. Squinch Jan 2019 #11
This! mcar Jan 2019 #17
A view from another EX-Politico reporter that the NY Times hired to try to push bullshit still_one Jan 2019 #14
I don't like what you have done here. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Jan 2019 #49
I didn't think the sarcasm tag was necessary. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #51
sorry, I will self-delete my initial response. Sometimes it is difficult to tell sarcasm still_one Jan 2019 #52
All good! WeekiWater Jan 2019 #53
Everythings good, its me not you. You have a good day too still_one Jan 2019 #54
"the actual conservative Democrats in the party have been in the minority." betsuni Jan 2019 #47
Absolutely betsumi. They have been in the minority after LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act, still_one Jan 2019 #50
It's not that they are the minority... disillusioned73 Jan 2019 #57
Lieberman had power because 60 votes. betsuni Jan 2019 #60
There were many Democrats elected this cycle mcar Jan 2019 #18
I like it! ananda Jan 2019 #20
WHY is my word trash not working? ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #21
Same here /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #26
It only works within a forum, not on the DU home page. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #34
"sharply to the left'' please define. YOHABLO Jan 2019 #30
Judgemental language zipplewrath Jan 2019 #31
One could've PDittie Jan 2019 #56
No she doesn't. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #33
if anything it is corporate media that is afraid of her AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #36
Starting to see a pattern here. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #42
Bullshit nini Jan 2019 #39
No, what AOC hasn't learned is how to take "no" for an answer... thankfully!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #44
Exactly right, nini. Cha Jan 2019 #45
+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #48
Two years ago they told us Bernie Sanders Pushes Democrats to the Left, Whether They Like It or Not betsuni Jan 2019 #46
That thought has crossed my mind too nini Jan 2019 #58
I like her and her idea's for change duforsure Jan 2019 #55
She doesn't have enough power yet to push anybody... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #59
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