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ProgressiveProfessor

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8. You might want to read up on Ruby Ridge before you go off half cocked (again)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:02 PM

Aug 2012

The Wikipedia article is a fairly neutral discussion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

As I said, today it is considered one of the textbook cases of how not to do things in law enforcement.

The Weavers are far from saints but due process is due all of us

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Freepers today respond to 20-year Ruby Ridge anniversary -- in a predictable manner [View all] LuckyTheDog Aug 2012 OP

When I was living in Oklahoma during the 1990s TlalocW Aug 2012 #1

If I had a dime for every time I heard a rightwinger blame it on Clinton, I'd be a rich man Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2012 #40

I've never understood people who view Weaver and such as martyrs Hoyt Aug 2012 #2

While they are not martyrs, there was also government misconduct and a large settlement ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #4

Both Weaver and Koresh had plenty of times to give themselves up. Hoyt Aug 2012 #6

You might want to read up on Ruby Ridge before you go off half cocked (again) ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #8

I've read plenty on Weaver, he was a racist, gun nut, illegal trafficker and should have surrendered Hoyt Aug 2012 #10

Absolutely! The death of his wife and child rests solely on that cowardly asshole's head Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #11

That's nice, but the topic is Ruby Ridge ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #12

Look, some of you gun guys will shoot an unarmed teen over property, Hoyt Aug 2012 #13

Stop with the insulting bullshit... ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #14

I'm sure ruby ridge is a beautiful shrine, but we are talking weaver. Hoyt Aug 2012 #15

Very telling that it's one of our "pro-gun progressives" that has rushed to defend apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #16

And you remain as clueless as ever ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #18

The issues is and was Weaver - and instead of simply apologizing for leaping apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #63

The judge and jury found him not guilty of everything except failure to appear. Zalatix Aug 2012 #23

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #17

+1,000,000 Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #19

There is NEVER an excuse to shoot someone's unarmed spouse Zalatix Aug 2012 #22

That's exactly how I feel about people aiding racists - no excuse.. Hoyt Aug 2012 #24

I think you accidentally wandered out of the "gungeon" nt Union Scribe Aug 2012 #27

So his unarmed WIFE deserved to be summarily executed for that? Zalatix Aug 2012 #33

+1 Union Scribe Aug 2012 #25

Would you be happier with law enforcement coddling the weavers of the world Hoyt Aug 2012 #29

I'd be happier if police didn't murder people, regardless of their politics. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #38

"I'd be happier if police didn't murder people, regardless of their politics." +1000! Zalatix Aug 2012 #44

I'd be happier if gun cultists weren't always supporting racists like weaver. Hoyt Aug 2012 #54

There is no support for Weaver here. Zalatix Aug 2012 #55

+1,000,000... those law enforcement thugs can just as easily turn on anyone. Zalatix Aug 2012 #35

I think the weaver types have plenty of guns, hate good people and are callous enough to shoot them. Hoyt Aug 2012 #43

So Randy was a d-bag. That doesn't justify summary executions. Zalatix Aug 2012 #47

The weavers shot a marshal FIRST. He had plenty of opportunity to surrender. Hoyt Aug 2012 #50

So how does this justify the summary execution of his unarmed WIFE? Zalatix Aug 2012 #52

OK, in your view selling guns to help racists intimidate is OK as long as a gun Hoyt Aug 2012 #53

How does this justify summarily executing his UNARMED WIFE? Zalatix Aug 2012 #56

Wrong. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #62

Even when that unarmed spouse convinced their nitwit husband that being a racist gun nut felon... Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #28

So? That doesn't mean she deserves a SUMMARY EXECUTION. Zalatix Aug 2012 #31

Do you feel the same way about MOVE in 1985? Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #34

Absolutely, wholeheartedly YES x 100,000,000,000. Zalatix Aug 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #59

Fair enough (n/t) Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #61

What if the spouse and baby are racists? JVS Aug 2012 #32

What if the baby is a racist? Really? Zalatix Aug 2012 #39

I really didn't think that I needed to use the sarcasm tag. JVS Aug 2012 #49

Blah. You got me. My faith in humanity is restored!!! Zalatix Aug 2012 #51

Remember Bo Gritz giving a Nazi salute to a group of Weavers skinhead supporters? n/t brewens Aug 2012 #46

I had totally forgotten about Ruby Ridge bluestateguy Aug 2012 #3

Bill Clinton had a hand in this? Three months prior to being elected? LeftinOH Aug 2012 #5

9/11 happened on his watch too ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #7

"Yahweh or the highway!" It's not as if violent crazyass religous nuts are an endangered species Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #9

Bill Clinton wasn't president, stupid right wing B Calm Aug 2012 #20

Huh. I guess the Freepadeeps have their own Troofers. nt Codeine Aug 2012 #21

Ruby Ridge was former-republican Aug 2012 #26

Do you feel the same way about MOVE in 1985? Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #30

That was the bombing in philly correct? former-republican Aug 2012 #37

Fair enough (n/t) Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #60

Funny that isn't on their radar... UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #41

Isn't it? Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #45

I see you've asked that twice here - will you answer a similar question? petronius Aug 2012 #48

Yes, but I find it telling that the Ruby Ridge cultists never express concern about Fred Hampton... Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #58

I actually posted about that on here once or twice before Zalatix Aug 2012 #57

I live in idaho, maybe 150 miles south of where "The Weaver Standoff" was. brewens Aug 2012 #42