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80. all I know, I won't support her. Period. The Al Franken debacle by her is enough proof for me she

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Thu Jan 17, 2019, 07:18 AM

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If Gillibrand is automatically disqualified because she called on Franken to resign... [View all] NYC Liberal Jan 2019 OP

No cilla4progress Jan 2019 #1

Amy knew Al's integrity.... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #17

She's right up there cilla4progress Jan 2019 #24

Me too! ananda Jan 2019 #48

Just Coming Charlotte Little Jan 2019 #178

Care to guess how many of these people will still be around in, say 12 years? randr Jan 2019 #2

Gillibrand was the first to call for Franken's resignation... PoliticAverse Jan 2019 #3

Schumer was. He told Franken to resign before anyone else did. NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #7

And I'm not voting for Schumer in the primary either. N/T Glamrock Jan 2019 #89

Source? It was fairly evident (if not entirely accurate) that Gillibrand was first and led the KPN Jan 2019 #129

Franken was weathering the storm. It had died down even. Then Gillibrand threw him under the bus Doremus Jan 2019 #146

By minutes in many cases Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #9

Coordinated like certain posters on this thread ? OnDoutside Jan 2019 #55

How so? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #68

Wow, if she can lead other smart people by the nose, make her President of sixteen years NOW! Blue_true Jan 2019 #182

Which one of senators on that list led the charge to oust Franken? oasis Jan 2019 #4

Schumer did. NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #8

KG will be remembered as the senator most responsible. That's life. oasis Jan 2019 #12

Misogyny more than "life", perhaps..Easier to blame "the uppity woman" whathehell Jan 2019 #31

No question KG led the charge. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #64

Schumer Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #10

KG gets the lion's share of the blame. Maybe her fault for oasis Jan 2019 #18

Why? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #19

She also didn't help herself when she strolled down Memory Lane oasis Jan 2019 #21

She was asked a question Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #23

KG has many good qualities but she seems to lack the oasis Jan 2019 #26

She was in the forefront and also attacked Bill. lark Jan 2019 #102

At least you are consistent Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #108

I don't think he's too old. lark Jan 2019 #110

I would too Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #112

You think? nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #185

Last night on Rachel JNelson6563 Jan 2019 #82

IMO, Rachel's interview was a big plus for KG. oasis Jan 2019 #101

She is reminding me of John Glen in 84 Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #126

That's how she's always struck me. JNelson6563 Jan 2019 #165

Oh, my gawd, she is convincing. We can't have a President like that. Blue_true Jan 2019 #184

Don't worry. oasis Jan 2019 #188

Well, that's certainly an argument in her favor... LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #120

Never said that it was. nt Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #159

Yeah, right... LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #162

I didn't Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #166

She lead the charge Lotusflower70 Jan 2019 #5

Yet Harris called for Franken to resign Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #14

Maybe people are uncomfortable about her former hawkish position on immigration or her former emulatorloo Jan 2019 #6

Or her promise to serve her full term as a senator More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jan 2019 #13

We've got many great candidates to choose from emulatorloo Jan 2019 #16

That's not what they're saying. They're saying it is her statement on Franken NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #22

If customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #15

If they were that politically naive then it's doubtful any of them would beat Trump Cetacea Jan 2019 #20

She's not "automatically disqualified" by any means EffieBlack Jan 2019 #25

Perfectly put. DFW Jan 2019 #75

Thanks for reminding. Don't forget Kamala Harris or Warren Or my biggest disappointmet Booker. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #27

and who will be the first to say "I was wrong" and ask him to run again ? dweller Jan 2019 #28

Gillibrand led the charge ... NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #29

This. X 1000. OnDoutside Jan 2019 #33

Try not to confuse "opinion" with fact...You don't know what her whathehell Jan 2019 #34

Sometimes ... NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #38

Sometimes... whathehell Jan 2019 #41

Whatever. NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #44

So whathehell Jan 2019 #53

If you're going to quote me .. NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #56

Lol..Is that because of the substantive difference? whathehell Jan 2019 #58

Yes, it was a substantive difference. NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #59

It's called an "oversight".. whathehell Jan 2019 #62

Yeah, an oversight. NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #63

Yeah, imagine that. whathehell Jan 2019 #66

You might wanna re-read that because you missed the point. brush Jan 2019 #111

Lol..No, I'd suggest you re-read it whathehell Jan 2019 #196

How are they obvious ? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #50

If you choose to believe ... NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #54

It is not a matter of belief Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #65

Learn A New Song ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #79

Any suggestions? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #81

Oh, Just Anything ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #85

Stale to some Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #93

Refreshing to None ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #163

No refreshing to those Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #167

+1. She also made a big mistake: dalton99a Jan 2019 #35

The "whataboutism" will indeed change no one's mind. DFW Jan 2019 #49

It isn't whataboutism; it's pointing out inconsistency. NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #61

There are many "whataboutismists" who would disagree... just read any Bernie thread. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #69

Though I consider Gillibrand to be a weak and uninspiring candidate in her own right DFW Jan 2019 #70

Totally ok with that. Gillibrand isn't my first choice either. NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #71

Some appear to see her enthusiasm in going after Al as a little too opportunistic DFW Jan 2019 #74

Not quite. Gillibrand's bad judgment in not recognizing the repug hit job led by Stone... brush Jan 2019 #116

She chose to tout herself as the lead singer ... NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #72

Sorry, but she did not "lead the charge." The response by the Democratic Senators NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #67

She is perceived as "the ringleader". NanceGreggs Jan 2019 #73

She embraces her role as the ringleader wellst0nev0ter Jan 2019 #186

You can't rewrite history. She was issuing statements and making media appearances... brush Jan 2019 #122

I do not trust or respect her judgement. I can't support her. Ever. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #97

Sounds like we found a leader Renew Deal Jan 2019 #103

You don't know what she was thinking. athena Jan 2019 #140

... BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #150

+1 workinclasszero Jan 2019 #195

She is disqualified because she fell for Roger Stone's sucker bait, and took those senators with her Baltimike Jan 2019 #30

So all 7 women Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #51

Only 2 identified themselves Butterflylady Jan 2019 #105

Why shouldn't they stay anonymous? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #107

Can you prove they weren't? Baltimike Jan 2019 #113

No I can't Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #118

Exactly. And when you see Roger Stone, make it a point to KNOW BETTER Baltimike Jan 2019 #121

Is there any proof that all 7 other women Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #124

You know, if *ONLY* we had hearings on the matter...oh wait...KG made Baltimike Jan 2019 #114

So you really think the Republicans on the Ethics Committee Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #117

*Nope*. I think Gilibrand fell for Roger Stone's SUCKER BET and you keep trying to reframe things Baltimike Jan 2019 #119

And 30 other Senators Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #125

...that aren't running for president. nt Baltimike Jan 2019 #135

They aren't going to get the nomination either, but she whipped them... Baltimike Jan 2019 #136

Whipped them? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #137

Oh Geeze...I used House terminology..she LED them make no mistake Baltimike Jan 2019 #138

So Warren, Sanders, Harris and Booker Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #139

Nice try. No dice. Baltimike Jan 2019 #147

She may have led but didn't they follow Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #148

again...Nice try. No dice. SHE *led* them, and you know it. Baltimike Jan 2019 #152

And they followed Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #156

and we won't follow. Baltimike Jan 2019 #170

OK Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #171

Where's the evidence they weren't? Baltimike Jan 2019 #172

That's not how it works Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #175

Yes it is. You're welcome Baltimike Jan 2019 #180

Again Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #190

She didn't "lead" them. It was discussed and coordinated NYC Liberal Jan 2019 #187

***YAWN*** Splitting hairs Baltimike Jan 2019 #189

So Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #191

Oh the irony of Gillibrand tarring Franken, being followed by her supporters trying to tar OnDoutside Jan 2019 #32

Facts are facts, OnDoubtside...Those responsible need to whathehell Jan 2019 #36

And she will be ! 😉 OnDoutside Jan 2019 #37

..As will they all.. whathehell Jan 2019 #39

Hahaha ! OnDoutside Jan 2019 #40

Whataboutism doesn't stick as much as the original sin, which sticks like super glue. brush Jan 2019 #123

Nice try.. whathehell Jan 2019 #197

Don't have to. You can see as well as I can from the posts on this thread... brush Jan 2019 #199

Not denying that . whathehell Jan 2019 #200

It stuck on her though. brush Jan 2019 #201

How are they being tarred? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #52

Good luck with this. /nt tonedevil Jan 2019 #42

She's disqualified for me because I consider her shanny Jan 2019 #43

Ditto onetexan Jan 2019 #60

"Opportunist". athena Jan 2019 #144

lol I use it all the time to describe shanny Jan 2019 #145

Being female is no defense. athena Jan 2019 #149

And I need none. Buh-bye. shanny Jan 2019 #153

All oppressed people, including racial minorities, internalize the negatives that whathehell Jan 2019 #198

She's not disqualified ... earthshine Jan 2019 #45

+1. She has every right to run and present her case dalton99a Jan 2019 #46

She's over 35 and born in the USA. That makes her qualified. earthshine Jan 2019 #47

Our current President lowered Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #83

Most of them aren't running. Meowmee Jan 2019 #57

You made an important point. madaboutharry Jan 2019 #76

Exactly Meowmee Jan 2019 #168

On the Franken matter madaboutharry Jan 2019 #77

Actually Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #84

TV is not the only media. I personally heard Gillibrand on progressive satellite radio... brush Jan 2019 #132

Was it this show? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #158

It's a non starter for me JustAnotherGen Jan 2019 #78

all I know, I won't support her. Period. The Al Franken debacle by her is enough proof for me she beachbum bob Jan 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #86

Only her, because....perception. LexVegas Jan 2019 #87

No one said she's disqualified Bettie Jan 2019 #88

Al Franken deserved due process, so ANY Dem that precluded that option is dead to me Mr. Ected Jan 2019 #90

It's called politics. athena Jan 2019 #143

Looks like we will have to draft President Hillary Clinton for 2020 run delisen Jan 2019 #91

I'm all for it! lunamagica Jan 2019 #154

Al Franken was railroaded. I'm still mad about it. Joe941 Jan 2019 #92

Putting the Franken question aside, Polly Hennessey Jan 2019 #94

Excellent observations. Thank you. I can't stand to listen to her, personally. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #98

Chuck Schumer coordinated and led the Democratic attack on Franken. yardwork Jan 2019 #95

Not to mention Biden and his handling of Anita Hill Evergreen Emerald Jan 2019 #96

But he's a man, athena Jan 2019 #142

Amen Evergreen Emerald Jan 2019 #161

Gillibrand is currently near the top of my list. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #99

I guess women can't speak out against powerful men crazycatlady Jan 2019 #100

I agree with you completely. athena Jan 2019 #141

your post just made me feel that much more welcome here crazycatlady Jan 2019 #155

Thank you for saying that. athena Jan 2019 #157

I called both my Senators Feinstein and Harris offices SHRED Jan 2019 #104

Dem pile on/treatment of Al Franken was disgraceful. Rene Jan 2019 #106

Franken was in the wrong, Gillibrand was in the right to call him out Tarc Jan 2019 #109

No one should be "automatically disqualified". Gillibrand isn't disqualified. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #115

I agree Andy823 Jan 2019 #130

Yes. Choice is typically a good thing. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #133

I totally agree with you. Andy823 Jan 2019 #173

I think most of the people on this list Bayard Jan 2019 #127

Fine point: Sanders is NOT A DEMOCRAT! Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #128

My guess is for the same reason people sometimes count LanternWaste Jan 2019 #164

I'm good with the whole list. zipplewrath Jan 2019 #131

The Republican primaries were influenced by rigged polls. rzemanfl Jan 2019 #134

Gillibrand got the snowball rolling, but it's not just that. Vinca Jan 2019 #151

I gave my opinion about the others calling for Franken to resign in another OP revmclaren Jan 2019 #160

False analogy Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #169

Keep saying that to yourself. revmclaren Jan 2019 #181

So the definition Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #192

Damn good post NYC Liberal!! K&R Devil Child Jan 2019 #174

No way I will vote for her Desert grandma Jan 2019 #176

Yes and no. mia Jan 2019 #177

I loved Al, I miss Al but let's face it, Al blew it. redstateblues Jan 2019 #179

Tu quoque is a logical fallacy, you know wellst0nev0ter Jan 2019 #183

And where is the evidence Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #193

i think it's pretty fucking sad what ALL of them did n/t orleans Jan 2019 #194

Gillibrand is automatically disqualified ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #202

Democrats can help trump Turbineguy Jan 2019 #203

There's a difference between customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #204