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SunSeeker

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22. He's not talking about the issues before him in that email.

Thu Jan 17, 2019, 07:09 PM

Jan 2019

Instead, he reached all the way across the country to find a local Los Angeles issue that was not "on his desk" in Vermont nor in the Senate. Meanwhile, his campaign is in turmail with sexual harassment allegations. But he doesn't talk about that. Nor does he discuss why he didn't vote with the Democrats yesterday on Russia sanctions. Those two issues actually were on his desk.

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Bernie Sanders just sent me an email. [View all] yardwork Jan 2019 OP

I do live in California, and I still think his email misses the mark. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #1

Deflection was exactly what I thought. And a very lame deflection at that. yardwork Jan 2019 #2

oh yeah, continuing to talk about the issues is deflection. That's genius. Totally JCanete Jan 2019 #6

Russian election interference is an extremely serious ISSUE. pnwmom Jan 2019 #14

why would he do that in an email? That's a demand you have, not one most of us have at this time. JCanete Jan 2019 #16

Why wouldn't he? It's an "important fucking issue" that he hasn't explained. An email pnwmom Jan 2019 #17

I just told you why. You find his not voting on this important. Not most of us do. It didn't JCanete Jan 2019 #18

The vote was very close and his vote could have been the crucial one -- there's no way to know. pnwmom Jan 2019 #19

He held a press conference about an hour after the vote. He could have mentioned it there. George II Jan 2019 #63

"Most of" who? Who is "us"? lapucelle Jan 2019 #31

I understand that Bernie told you in March that Russian Interference was a 'distraction' emulatorloo Jan 2019 #32

I didn't make it a virtue, nor do I know the reasons for his abstention. I do know what hyperbole JCanete Jan 2019 #34

He didn't abstain. He was absent. yardwork Jan 2019 #67

Actually, I think most people DO want to know why he chose not to vote on one of the most Squinch Jan 2019 #78

He's not talking about the issues before him in that email. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #22

No its not in turmoil. You can keep saying that, and you can find an echo chamber here. But he JCanete Jan 2019 #23

Why wouldn't he address the things actuallly on his desk? SunSeeker Jan 2019 #25

no, you spin it as diversion. it would be convoluted to put everyting like that in an email. that JCanete Jan 2019 #26

I'm asking him to explain his actions. His explanation should not be "convoluted." SunSeeker Jan 2019 #27

ugh...it would be convluted and distracting to package such a thing that has no widespread demand JCanete Jan 2019 #30

If you don't care that he doesn't support Russia sanctions, then we have nothing to talk about. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #40

It's only wishful thinking on your part to deflect that people R B Garr Jan 2019 #71

This is the second time I've heard the word "silly" used in reference to BS's failure lapucelle Jan 2019 #33

I said it twice. Do you have a point or are you just into insignificant trivia? Did you bother with JCanete Jan 2019 #35

Yes. lapucelle Jan 2019 #39

pretty sure its right here somewhere. Just look through the posts. JCanete Jan 2019 #44

My post was about the use of lapucelle Jan 2019 #46

yeah, but usually only when something is silly, like the expectation by people about an email in JCanete Jan 2019 #47

Some would argue that the casual dismissal lapucelle Jan 2019 #48

I don't expect these people to have the same standard for just about anybody on anything else. JCanete Jan 2019 #50

The politics of distraction as a tactic is a common topic on DU and in the media, lapucelle Jan 2019 #57

pretending that this is a distraction remains absurd. Who is it distracting? While you JCanete Jan 2019 #58

It's presumptive and dismissive to insist that others are "pretending" lapucelle Jan 2019 #59

sure, people will believe what they will believe. At some point you should actually demand they back JCanete Jan 2019 #69

"otherwise he cares naught for these very issues" betsuni Jan 2019 #70

well parried... JCanete Jan 2019 #73

It was a feint, not a parry, and given the reaction, it was successful. lapucelle Jan 2019 #76

mine had a clear meaning in the context. Are you saying that the statement JCanete Jan 2019 #79

A feint is an offensive (rather than defensive) move whose goal lapucelle Jan 2019 #82

Do you have any evidence to support your claim that people are pretending lapucelle Jan 2019 #75

okay, fair enough. I hope they are simply pretending. That's me using the generous read. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #80

His concern about California serves him personally. R B Garr Jan 2019 #72

Hmmmm. 2naSalit Jan 2019 #3

I received the same email. LunaSea Jan 2019 #4

ah...then why should you care. not YOUR problem apparently nt JCanete Jan 2019 #5

I guess it missed the mark... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #7

As a CA teacher I can definitely agree that the schools in CA need help. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #8

I cant fucking believe what is happening RIGHT BEFORE OUR FUCKING eyes Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #11

I know...I read your post yesterday. BigmanPigman Jan 2019 #15

You mean he was there only for an hour for a day-long meeting? Apollyonus Jan 2019 #9

Correct. He dropped into the meeting for an hour. yardwork Jan 2019 #12

Well if you don't want emails, you could unsubscribe. aidbo Jan 2019 #10

No way. I like to hear what Bernie is saying. yardwork Jan 2019 #13

Well, if it is the same email I just got.. aidbo Jan 2019 #20

Perhaps posting the text of the email would provide context. aidbo Jan 2019 #21

Thanks for posting. It helps put this thread in context. dgauss Jan 2019 #56

wow, sounds like everything I ever believed as a Democrat mountain grammy Jan 2019 #81

Seems like the Vermont Senator should worry about VERMONT. R B Garr Jan 2019 #24

that would almost be genius...except he's a US Senator. uh...oops. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #74

LOL! R B Garr Jan 2019 #77

ME TOO Lockwood Jan 2019 #28

I was happy to sign my name to support the teachers in California when I got the email. Nanjeanne Jan 2019 #29

Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #37

How is Bernie helping the teachers? SunSeeker Jan 2019 #42

Yeah yeah. $15 dollars is too much, don't pick on Amazon and MFA will never ever happen. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #43

Um whut? These teachers don't need an email from Bernie. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #45

He sells his books on Amazon. In fact he has his own page on Amazon. George II Jan 2019 #61

That is not helping the teachers. That is just helping Bernie build his email list. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #41

Oh dear. I guess I'll stop adding my name to the many requests I get from politicians and Nanjeanne Jan 2019 #49

I'm not stopping you from anything. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #52

Uh he has my email. That's why I got an email. Nanjeanne Jan 2019 #53

You are confirming it is a good email for his campaign to reach you. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #54

Oh good. Then I'm glad I did it. You have all the answers. Thanks. Nanjeanne Jan 2019 #55

Coincidentally I started receiving emails from the Sanders campaign a day or two after.... George II Jan 2019 #62

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #65

Thank you for this insight! yardwork Jan 2019 #66

I would not describe an email in support of teachers striking for better conditions ms liberty Jan 2019 #36

Some would rather complain about Russia. David__77 Jan 2019 #51

Interesting. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #38

"I don't live in California." - neither does he. I got the same email, basically his stump speech... George II Jan 2019 #60

SunSeeker provided the reason for this email above. yardwork Jan 2019 #64

Right, to support the LA teachers you have to give HIM your email address... George II Jan 2019 #68