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AnotherMcIntosh

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10. Ellsberg's obligation and demonstrated loyalty was to the United States rather than to governmental

Reply to still_one (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:33 PM

Aug 2012

officials who wanted to keep their awareness of certain facts secret.

That obligation to the United States was superior to the "obligation for confidentially" on behalf of governmental officials.

His obligation and demonstrated loyalty was to principles rather than principals.

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So, Some Say, Ellsberg Is Different Than Assange... Not According To Ellsberg... [View all] WillyT Aug 2012 OP

It is different, Ellsberg worked for the government, Assange didn't. So Assange was not still_one Aug 2012 #1

So... Assange Is Less Guilty Than Ellsberg ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #2

Absolutely, that is exactly what I meant. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #3

Ok... But Just For Sanity's Sake... Why Do You Suppose Ellsberg Supports Assange ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #9

I think because they are both people of conscience, with governments doing terrible things in the still_one Aug 2012 #12

Hey... I Apologize If I Took Your Point Wrong... WillyT Aug 2012 #13

No need to apologize that is just how I feel, I don't think you took it wrong still_one Aug 2012 #14

Your take on this totally rocks. truedelphi Aug 2012 #16

Ellsberg's obligation and demonstrated loyalty was to the United States rather than to governmental AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #10

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #11

Same here! n/t truedelphi Aug 2012 #17

I am stuck in that time frame, as I replied on your other thread, noting Ellsberg. freshwest Aug 2012 #4

So he's wrong treestar Aug 2012 #5

You are conflating Assange's wikileaks releases with his sexual assualt allegations. morningfog Aug 2012 #7

No, he feels entitled not to answer to any law treestar Aug 2012 #15

If that were true, he would not have sought political asylum. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #21

So, you can't see a difference between... MattSh Aug 2012 #23

It's the same system treestar Aug 2012 #24

"He should not be supporting Julian's general document dump and fleeing from the law." WillyT Aug 2012 #8

He's a far bigger person than Julian was treestar Aug 2012 #18

What now?!?!? CLIMATEGATE!!>1.1.>!> morningfog Aug 2012 #6

Ellsberg has been a genuine hero, and he's got a right to his opinions. IMO he and his co-plaintiffs struggle4progress Aug 2012 #19

Consider for a moment, perhaps Chomsky, Ellsberg, Moore, Hedges, et al are the ones being consistent Electric Monk Aug 2012 #20

Perhaps. But what I always admired about Chomsky, in his heyday, was his ability struggle4progress Aug 2012 #22

Daniel Ellsberg is an American hero. hifiguy Aug 2012 #25

K&R. This is really quite amusing as well as informative. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #26