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Ash_F

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142. Not all NFL players, especially the bigger linemen, are lean.

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:04 AM

Aug 2012

But that is not hugely relevant to this 12 year old. I was just addressing your assertion that his shape is somehow ok because the are pro football players with similar dimensions, because it's not. The advice of staying out of football, seeing a doctor and getting on a professionally recommended health regimen is not a putdown, but sensible.

"If his height is due to an excess of HGH, that is a probable cause for higher than average lean body weight as well." OK now you are just being silly. The boy is not lean, period. He is almost 100lbs overweight, and he's 12. That kind of denial is what leads people to fail to seek needed healthcare and end up hurting themselves or their loved ones in the long run. It is almost as bad as those Christian Scientists who were in the news because they thought they could pray their children's fatal-yet-treatable diseases away.

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6' 1 1/2" 300 lbs, 7th grade 12-yr old, student barred from PeeWee Football League. [View all] GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 OP

Her poor child is already obese at that age, she should be more worried about his health. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #1

Umm ... Maybe daily football practices would help the kid lose some weight? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #3

he's being excluded from playing PEE WEE football. Maine-ah Aug 2012 #12

And? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #18

If he were substantially heavier, then yes, off the basketball team. TalkingDog Aug 2012 #25

Do basketball and running involve charging into other students? XemaSab Aug 2012 #26

Basketball does. Ever play that sport? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #66

but are you an adult, or a 12 year old kid? Maine-ah Aug 2012 #75

Come on. One of my 12yo teammates was 6'6" and one 6'7". Prometheus Bound Aug 2012 #104

Maybe you should read the OP, where it states the weight limits obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #33

Yes, I saw that ... and while I understand the weight restruction, I don't think it has the effect JoePhilly Aug 2012 #70

Uh, it's called physics, JoePhilly. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #79

Football involves physically tackling people to the ground hifiguy Aug 2012 #42

Jesus Christ...he's a danger to the other kids...pee wee football is contact... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #44

I was 72 lbs in 7th grade AngryAmish Aug 2012 #56

Do you want to see some Missycim Aug 2012 #63

Well ... you have to be in high school to play high school football. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #73

it would only take one hit from that mountain Missycim Aug 2012 #109

Would you want your 100 pound ten year old kid to face that guy Warpy Aug 2012 #103

When they invent tackle running we can talk anout him playing MattBaggins Aug 2012 #121

He's not being excluded from playing football. He's being excluded from teams TalkingDog Aug 2012 #22

Its the mothers fault to begin with Missycim Aug 2012 #64

He can play high school football in a year or two obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #31

He can play HS now. That's what they do with the kids too big for PeeWee Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #114

He can join a swim team or other non-contact sport and lose weight. It's perfectly reasonable pnwmom Aug 2012 #53

At his height, he'll likely never get down to the weight limit for pee-wee football. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #123

The football program is a group activity tabasco Aug 2012 #112

He CAN play with kids his own size, but mommy decided to pitch a fit instead. Buzz Clik Aug 2012 #129

So you've personally measured his percent body fat? n/t eridani Aug 2012 #81

A 12-year old boy has not had enough testosterone in his system for long enough of a time TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #116

If he has enough testosterone in his system to get to be 6'1" eridani Aug 2012 #125

This is wrong Ash_F Aug 2012 #126

Hormones have nothing to do with adolescent growth spurts? eridani Aug 2012 #127

Not testosterone, not at 12 Ash_F Aug 2012 #130

Where did he get the bone density then? His bones are HUGE. eridani Aug 2012 #135

You keep making false assertions about the human body Ash_F Aug 2012 #138

Athletes with high BMI of course have more circulatory system problems eridani Aug 2012 #140

Not all NFL players, especially the bigger linemen, are lean. Ash_F Aug 2012 #142

Just because the kid has more body fat doesn't mean he doesn't have more lean mass as well eridani Aug 2012 #143

No. He might develop some muscle, but not enough to make him 300 lbs. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #128

Jay Culter would disagree Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #132

Yes, I made an exception for bodybuilders in a subsequent post. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #134

Agree. They should move him up to play with older kids. Dawgs Aug 2012 #2

I think that would depend on his ability. Just being big is not going to protect him from JoePhilly Aug 2012 #5

There was a child across the alley from my house a few years back with that problem. ieoeja Aug 2012 #15

Exactly. You move that kid up, and the expectations are very different. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #23

They should. My nephew was moved up in basketball hughee99 Aug 2012 #69

This kid would be huge on a HS team Marrah_G Aug 2012 #99

He was invited to play on his middle school team TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #105

This is a safety issue. Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #4

Its football. A smaller kid moving at high speed will probably do much more damage than JoePhilly Aug 2012 #19

Nope. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #29

Correct n/t Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #35

Actually, a quarter of the speed jberryhill Aug 2012 #54

He'll be moving well below half the speed. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #62

If he is falling down Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #133

Conservation of momentum longship Aug 2012 #78

Bwaa-hahaha! joeybee12 Aug 2012 #45

Check the birth certificate first. Six foot one at 12 YEARS OLD??? RagAss Aug 2012 #6

I know a kid that's 6'3'' at 13. Every basketball wanted him. He hates B-ball and plays soccer. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #20

My son was six foot at 12. He's now 6'2" at 13. Brickbat Aug 2012 #21

Not uncommon. But usually they are tall and lanky, not 300 lbs. TalkingDog Aug 2012 #27

I know....12 years isn't enough time to hit 300 lbs. RagAss Aug 2012 #68

My brother was about that height at 12. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #83

I was six feet by then, actually even before that. Codeine Aug 2012 #95

This is a tough situation auburngrad82 Aug 2012 #7

Well first of all, he weighs too much whether he plays football or not. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #30

Absolutely true auburngrad82 Aug 2012 #124

forget peewee, would the young man like to come to Athens Georgia for college? NightWatcher Aug 2012 #8

6" 1 1/2", 300 lbs. 7th grader vs. my nephew.......... mrmpa Aug 2012 #9

kid needs a new mother, especially one who can read eligibility rules nt msongs Aug 2012 #10

So, the mother is against discrimination ... surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #11

I was barred from playing CYO ball because I weighed 165 lbs. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #13

Bill Cosby explains Mopar151 Aug 2012 #14

This isn't new Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #16

well shit; it's Texas Blue_Tires Aug 2012 #17

Screw peewee! Get that kid into JV! Brickbat Aug 2012 #24

That mom is showing her ignorance. yellowcanine Aug 2012 #28

"If you don't want your son tackled, get him off the field"--well, as the mom of a former TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #32

That was a stupid thing she said. cyberswede Aug 2012 #49

See post #37 - kid doesn't even look like a "giant obese pituitary case" REP Aug 2012 #85

My sympathy was growing until I read that. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #117

She doesn't give a shit about anybody else's kid but hers. That much is clear. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #119

Her Frigidaire sized kid should be eligible for junior varsity Warpy Aug 2012 #34

We had a 135lb limit when we were 12yo too... I don't see what makes Elijah an exception. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #36

Only 12 years old...wow, wait till he gets into highschool! AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #37

He doesn't look terribly obese at all hifiguy Aug 2012 #43

I hope so... cyberswede Aug 2012 #46

makes you wonder if this kid is AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #50

Mom looks as if she would benefit from Weight Watchers... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2012 #59

i agree, and he may grow another 12" in height! frylock Aug 2012 #60

This good looking kid is solid Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #88

The kid is unique and he ought to take advantage of it. Kaleva Aug 2012 #91

No doubt they are being contacted Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #94

skilled player? TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #106

I'm sure they were being sensitive to his feelings by NOT weighing him in front of the group nobodyspecial Aug 2012 #38

Agree cyberswede Aug 2012 #47

ummm take a look at the pic upthread, because this kid isn't what i would refer to as fat frylock Aug 2012 #61

Cripes, there are college players much smaller than that. hifiguy Aug 2012 #39

I have coached youth football for the last 7 years Teamster Jeff Aug 2012 #40

I remember well the weight restriction when I played PeeWee football DontTreadOnMe Aug 2012 #41

I understand his desire to play, but I wouldn't let an average-sized son of mine gollygee Aug 2012 #48

I wonder if sabbat hunter Aug 2012 #51

Excellent point. At the rate that young man is growing hifiguy Aug 2012 #52

People of unusual height (whether short or tall) are often prone to having coronary problems eridani Aug 2012 #136

Bottom line: Would you want him playing against your average sized kid? proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #55

Sorry. This kid could potentially KILL someone. Bump him into a higher bracket. democrat_patriot Aug 2012 #57

He could cripple an average size kid by tackling them. There are rules for reasons. appleannie1 Aug 2012 #58

I will tell you one thing Missycim Aug 2012 #65

or the next Shaquille O'Neil WooWooWoo Aug 2012 #71

btw, here's a pic of that kid playing football WooWooWoo Aug 2012 #72

RIP Manute Bol Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #115

Why doesn't he just try out for the middle school team? n/t tammywammy Aug 2012 #67

i have a large son dembotoz Aug 2012 #74

Common sense----- Thomas Paine. orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #76

I'm sure the local varsity high school coaches will be keeping an eye on him bluestateguy Aug 2012 #77

The picture doesn't look like fat camp to me, more like a weightlifting program to tone up TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #87

Interesting, our kids played travel hockey, never football. tritsofme Aug 2012 #80

He should be directed to a private league instantly. Where he'd be welcomed riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #82

If you know anything about football, this large slow moving kid will be nothing but an impediment cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #84

Did you see the photo of him? He doesn't look slow at all! REP Aug 2012 #86

Mom isn't necessarily being an ass--read post 88. n/t Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #89

Agree with the points; still think she's doing it in an assy way :-) REP Aug 2012 #92

If she didn't, she wouldn't get the publicity. Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #96

Could be! Though with a kid that size ... ! REP Aug 2012 #98

LOL. No doubt! Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #101

The Washington Redskins signed Andre the Giant to an NFL contract. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #90

Andre the Giant had acromegaly, a pretty severe disorder REP Aug 2012 #93

Why would "large" = "slowmoving" eridani Aug 2012 #137

You can't have a child that size going against much smaller children Marrah_G Aug 2012 #97

he should have had a gun fascisthunter Aug 2012 #100

Dad gave me a shotgun when I was 11 yrs old. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #111

I was the biggest kid in my class in the fourth grade. I was over the weight limit brewens Aug 2012 #102

Mrs. Earnheart, your kid has 80 pounds on Marshawn Lynch jmowreader Aug 2012 #107

Must have been a fun birth. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #108

That's too bad. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #110

He isn't a PeeWee. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #113

"exceeds the 135-pound limit for seventh-graders" alphafemale Aug 2012 #118

I don't know why everyone is assuming he is slow and clumsy. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2012 #120

Happens all the time in CT bigwillq Aug 2012 #122

What part of "A 300-lb 12 year could likely kill an average 12 year old" Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #131

I say get him to New York City in case we have an alien wormhole open up over Stark Tower Orrex Aug 2012 #139

I played Little Loop football and had to make weight each week belcffub Aug 2012 #141

Wow, He could just walk down the field with the football. ErikJ Aug 2012 #144