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26. No, technically I compared instances of self-defense (e.g. the old lady)

Wed Jan 23, 2019, 02:31 PM

Jan 2019

to instances of gun crime.

Your contention that I meant to compare mere carrying of a gun to gun crime would only make sense if the initial story had been about an old woman who carried a gun (but didn't use it).

Anyway, this seems to be the old argument about "good guys with guns". Even those guys can be harmful, since they are the only source for guns used in crimes (whether they themselves become criminals, or whether they lose their guns to theft or otherwise).

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Another responsible gun-owner [View all] ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 OP

We have them around here TEB Jan 2019 #1

And here's another! Marengo Jan 2019 #2

Wow, I'm so glad she gets to keep her pearls and whatnot. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #3

Actually the one making the nation worse Jake Stern Jan 2019 #4

Whatever happened to robbery being a crime of poverty? ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #6

Answer me a question Jake Stern Jan 2019 #7

So robbery is not a crime of poverty? ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #13

Roughly 3 million Americans legally carry firearms daily, 9 million do so at once a month. If Marengo Jan 2019 #20

I'm sure we can easily compare instances of self-defense with gun crimes. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #22

You claimed 1:1 of legal carriers to racists brandishing firearms at AA teenagers, now back that up. Marengo Jan 2019 #24

No, technically I compared instances of self-defense (e.g. the old lady) ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #26

Oh, so you voluntarily use the term "packing heat" without knowing its commonly understood... Marengo Jan 2019 #33

Your semantic investigation is terribly exciting, ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #36

LOL! Not really relevant? That specious claim is a foundation of your argument. Marengo Jan 2019 #46

Unfortunately you would lose that bet sarisataka Jan 2019 #28

Depends how much you think about the surveys involved, I guess ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #39

I was referring to sarisataka Jan 2019 #48

How does that justify his actions? nt hack89 Jan 2019 #29

No one said anything about justification ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #40

It would be even tougher to be comfortable with the death of his victim. hack89 Jan 2019 #41

I'm certain he would have conducted himself as a perfect gentleman, armed robbery being... Marengo Jan 2019 #8

Some DUers seem to think it's better to submit to being a victim rather than defend ones self. Jake Stern Jan 2019 #9

I'm not against self defense, I'm against guns. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #11

Apparently the real criminal is the one who uses a gun in self defense Marengo Jan 2019 #15

Just more evidence that guns make things worse, not better. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #10

I'm sure the criminal element will rush to the head of the line to surrender their firearms... Marengo Jan 2019 #12

You seem to think I think confiscation is an immediate silver bullet. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #14

Sure works in Venezuela, doesn't it? Marengo Jan 2019 #16

I doubt I need to point out the differences between the USA and Venezuela to you, ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #17

The joke is your cloud cuckoo land idea of the ease and popularity of complete firearm... Marengo Jan 2019 #18

Insulting. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #19

Such an absurdity deserves nothing more than insult and contempt, and you cannot seriously... Marengo Jan 2019 #21

FFS ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #25

Huh? If South Korea and the United States shared similar historic traditions and cultural attitudes Marengo Jan 2019 #30

Oh, so we are stuck in our ways, huh? ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #42

Mass non-compliance would indicate that YOU are on the wrong side, and that your advocated Marengo Jan 2019 #49

Works in Europe, Japan, Australia. John Fante Jan 2019 #27

Europe and Australia have plenty of guns hack89 Jan 2019 #31

Taken together, I don't Europe has even half the number of guns John Fante Jan 2019 #34

If crime and guns go hand in hand hack89 Jan 2019 #37

That stat cuts both ways. ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #44

There are other reasons for owning guns besides self defense hack89 Jan 2019 #45

"so authoritarian acts by the government are hard to oppose." ExciteBike66 Jan 2019 #43

No. I was referring only to Japan hack89 Jan 2019 #47

What works? Marengo Jan 2019 #32

Not having a ratio of 1:1 firearms to people floating around. John Fante Jan 2019 #35

Non-sensical, the topic of this discussion is complete civilian disarmament. Marengo Jan 2019 #38

Damned frustrating when someone giggles at your sacred cows... LanternWaste Jan 2019 #23

Very fine people on both sides! Initech Jan 2019 #5