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cleanhippie

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3. Here, I will repost the last paragraph for you.

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:23 PM

Aug 2012

This is a kid who was too young to have yet obtained the full range of vaccines, and was dependent on herd immunity…and someone carrying the disease infected them, and ultimately killed them. It’s remarkable that deaths from pertussis are now so rare that one of them will make the news—but the way we’ve made the disease rare is by preventive vaccinations. Every person who neglects to vaccinate is contributing to a deadly disease renaissance.

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Anti-vaxers kill another child [View all] cleanhippie Aug 2012 OP

The infant could have easily caught the pertussis from a vaccinated child. FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #1

"The longer you went from your last vaccine, the greater your risk of disease," cleanhippie Aug 2012 #4

You sound as hysterical about this as the anti-vaxer do about autism and vaxes. Lionessa Aug 2012 #6

Ahh, the old ad hominem. You stay classy. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #7

You're the one attempting to construct a strawman no matter how many Lionessa Aug 2012 #18

Why do you feel the need to attack me personally? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #20

I have, as have others and yet you seem stuck in the same mud re: this article. Lionessa Aug 2012 #29

You apologized for attacking me personally? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #35

I imagine we'll rationalize the melodrama that validates our own position LanternWaste Aug 2012 #23

Meh. And t risk of sounding childish... cleanhippie Aug 2012 #25

no, I think you did 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #27

+1000 n/t 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #26

the person accusing others of being murderers is telling others to stay classy? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #56

Hysterical? Really? Holy shit, you need to seek a less stressful message board! 11 Bravo Aug 2012 #33

how the fuck could you construe that post as "hysterical"? projecting again? dionysus Aug 2012 #38

All kids have several years between the vaccine and the booster. FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #21

What didn't you understand? "majority of cases were in fully vaccinated children" HiPointDem Aug 2012 #55

It says nothing about it being anti-vax, but that the child was too young for full vax. Lionessa Aug 2012 #2

Here, I will repost the last paragraph for you. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #3

Please point to where in that paragraph, it points to anti-vaxers causing this child's illness? Lionessa Aug 2012 #5

I'm pro-vaxer and I'm only guessing what the OP infers but Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #11

I think you have the crux of what PZ is saying. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #12

Yes, however, most folks are never given boosters, day care workers would be hard pressed Lionessa Aug 2012 #17

Exactly. mzmolly Aug 2012 #39

My children Sgent Aug 2012 #51

Mine never went to daycare, and public schools do not generally require Lionessa Aug 2012 #60

We don't even know if the adult in question, was made aware of the mzmolly Aug 2012 #44

And we have outbreaks of whooping cough and other childhood diseases obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #8

"Anti vaxxers make me so very angry" Agreed, and they put us all at risk. Its really selfish, IMO. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #9

Children on a regular vaccination schedule were more commonly affected FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #22

Similar results in an Aussie study of the outbreaks there. Gormy Cuss Aug 2012 #41

This means that in order to have a fully vaccinated population, mzmolly Aug 2012 #45

Clearly you don't understand the issue with pertussis recently. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #10

I agree, somewhat. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #13

I'm not sure it's this huge movement. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #14

It was enough to bring about the reemrgence of nearly eradicated childhood diseases. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #15

Well, I'll have to disagree that's the only cause. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #16

I can concede that. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #19

There is simply no credible data to support your assertion. mzmolly Aug 2012 #47

When did you have your Tdap mzmolly Aug 2012 #32

Two years ago. We have a 3year old and my spouse is a public school teacher. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #34

Tdap or tetanus? mzmolly Aug 2012 #36

Tdap. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #37

Are you saying that only those with a particular philosophy, mzmolly Aug 2012 #43

No, I'm not saying that at all. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #49

I'm not the only person mzmolly Aug 2012 #50

Too many adults think vaccines are only for children NickB79 Aug 2012 #40

Indeed. mzmolly Aug 2012 #46

Rejecting science in favor of superstition must have one heck of an evolutionary advantage 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #24

This could all be resolved with a little transparency ecstatic Aug 2012 #28

This strikes me as similar to the arguments against seatbelts 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #30

So we could resolve this by lying? jeff47 Aug 2012 #48

This kind of reasonable thought is unacceptable. First, it removes an issue as a candidate for Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #52

Anna Polling Sgent Aug 2012 #53

I think you mean Hannah Poling? mzmolly Aug 2012 #57

All those unvaccinated adults are a problem, mzmolly Aug 2012 #31

Would it be unreasonable to suggest Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #42

The majority of those getting sick are up-to-date with their immunizations, which kind of goes HiPointDem Aug 2012 #54

Not nearly enough information to make the statement "anti-vaxers" killed... yawnmaster Aug 2012 #58

In 2009, 94% of the applicable age groups had DPT3+ and 84% had DPT4+. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #59