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Tom Rinaldo

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147. And before that Al Gore and John Kerry...

Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:40 PM

Jan 2019

"Thomas A. "Tad" Devine (born June 11, 1955)[1] is an American political consultant. Devine was a senior adviser in Al Gore's 2000 and John Kerry's 2004 Presidential campaigns.[2] He was also the chief strategist for Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign.[3] He has worked on eleven winning campaigns for President and Prime Minister in Europe, Latin America, and the Middle East, as well as seventeen winning U.S. Senate races.[4] Devine is currently the president of Devine Mulvey Longabaugh, a Washington D.C.-based media consulting firm. In October 2010, he was recognized as one of "the nation's most respected media consultants" by USA Today"

First Paragraph in Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tad_Devine Later it adds this:

"Devine has worked on the winning campaigns of New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine in 2005, and several campaigns of senators, including Sheldon Whitehouse (RI), Bill Nelson (FL), Bernie Sanders (VT), John Kerry (MA) and the DSCC independent expenditure for the winning senate races of Claire McCaskill (MO) and Robert Menendez (NJ), as well as numerous statewide elections. Devine's work as a strategist and media consultant has been recognized by leading media and political consulting organizations. Devine has produced award-winning television advertising for Sen. Edward Kennedy (MA), Sen. John Edwards (NC), and Gov. Parris Glendening (MD). "

Bernie first used Devine to assist his run for Senate

Look, for all I know (or more correctly don't know) Devine may at some point have flipped and started focusing on helping bad guys, but his life long creds in the Democratic Party had been sterling back when Bernie first connected with him.

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A word from HRC about attacks from the left... [View all] PunkinPi Jan 2019 OP

re-fighting the primary again? shanny Jan 2019 #1

Were you here during the primary?... SidDithers Jan 2019 #2

Good Question! Cha Jan 2019 #215

deleted, im done Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #257

Nope, looking forward to 2020 with some sage advice. nt PunkinPi Jan 2019 #4

That's not refighting the primary. You weren't even here back in 2015-2016. George II Jan 2019 #5

Or .. maybe ... he was? Apollyonus Jan 2019 #445

Since you're asking that poster has "lurked" here longer than you. Autumn Jan 2019 #451

Oh brother! GMAFB! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #6

More like, fore warned is fore armed. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #9

Fore warned is fore armed... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #83

Perfect example of what she just said. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #10

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Ty Mrs mary. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #59

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Amen to everything! R B Garr Jan 2019 #65

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You have a great weekend, too! R B Garr Jan 2019 #72

Agreed and well said. c-rational Jan 2019 #78

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #82

You speak for me!! nt allgood33 Jan 2019 #93

Thanks allgood. Im humbled. How much more can a person be? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #96

+ 1 musette_sf Jan 2019 #107

COOL!!! Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #132

Agreed msdogi Jan 2019 #129

YVW Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #134

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+ a kazillion and a half. 2naSalit Jan 2019 #157

That's a rousing endorsement. Ty. We ALL love her here. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #169

+1 Bravo (nm) indie_voter Jan 2019 #195

Brava! yardwork Jan 2019 #251

Mahalo CCB!! Cha Jan 2019 #252

deleted, im done Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #258

I hope I didn't hurt your feelings Elliot. Are you joking around? Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #297

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2019 #278

some bernie supporters were russian and some were 'libertarian', which means they certainot Jan 2019 #317

+1000 leftynyc Jan 2019 #413

Well said. honest.abe Jan 2019 #441

lulz obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #24

What part of Sanders is NOT A DEMOCRAT TNNurse Jan 2019 #26

+1 sarcasmo Jan 2019 #84

Every part Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #105

But he caucuses with the dems, promotes them, helps build their platform onit2day Jan 2019 #191

Word LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #198

attacks them qazplm135 Jan 2019 #204

Yes he caucuses with Dems Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #213

when will he campaign for Dems? or support Dems? or just stop attacking Dems? Ninsianna Jan 2019 #236

BS needs to take responsibility and apologize to all the women lapucelle Jan 2019 #270

This really needs to be addressed. Ninsianna Jan 2019 #320

im done Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #259

No. N/T lapucelle Jan 2019 #267

THIS!!!! +1,000,000!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #324

thank you NinaNeon Jan 2019 #326

When does he fundraise for them? ehrnst Jan 2019 #348

I'm not going to trade negative barbs with you NinaNeon Jan 2019 #328

But I didn't break the rule Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #349

Bernie is NOT a Democrat leftynyc Jan 2019 #414

Lol rude NinaNeon Jan 2019 #422

Don't care if you do or not leftynyc Jan 2019 #426

What if he was an official Democrat NinaNeon Jan 2019 #432

It wasn't just the negative leftynyc Jan 2019 #433

His tax returns and one Russia vote NinaNeon Jan 2019 #458

If people are going to get leftynyc Jan 2019 #460

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Do you SERIOUSLY get swayed leftynyc Jan 2019 #470

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"The DNC only let him run because they had no intention of giving him the nomination" betsuni Jan 2019 #464

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"commandeered" betsuni Jan 2019 #468

Getting your BoB talking points in early I see. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #473

+ 1 musette_sf Jan 2019 #111

No; gearing up for this one LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #36

Womp womp. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #87

It would seem so, I'm sure HRC must realize that many of the online attacks claiming to be elmac Jan 2019 #101

Well, this is from an interview from Sept 2017 TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #114

"anyone who harassed HRC supporters is not a real Bernie supporter." paleotn Jan 2019 #120

All I know for sure is threads like this do nothing but damage the Democratic party. nt elmac Jan 2019 #158

the ones at the convention booing Hillary john Lewis and other democrats JI7 Jan 2019 #197

Thank you. HootieMcBoob Jan 2019 #211

False, I knew many Bernie supporters IRL radius777 Jan 2019 #313

I know a Bernie supporter in real life. He's become a hateful person. yardwork Jan 2019 #254

No doubt Hillary realizes this, given her extremely high level of political astuteness. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #325

"They are still out there" WeekiWater Jan 2019 #121

This is happening in the Here and Now, shanny. I am glad HRC is shining a spotlight on a dark place Hekate Jan 2019 #193

+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #196

Sounds like it to me LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #206

You "give it a rest".. telling Hillary what to do. Cha Jan 2019 #214

I was not telling Hillary what to do LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #218

Yeah, just as long as you're Not telling Hillary what to do. Cha Jan 2019 #219

I doubt if my requests would ever get to her. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #220

There's always time for a photo shot. But not always voting, or supporting. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #302

Did you listen to the whole segment? She's concerned about recent sexist attacks on KAMALA HARRIS pnwmom Jan 2019 #207

Yeah, were you here, shanny? Cha Jan 2019 #210

Bat signal didn't work. ehrnst Jan 2019 #224

How is adressing rancid behavior that has been ongoing for years Ninsianna Jan 2019 #235

Whoops EffieBlack Jan 2019 #276

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2019 #3

.... Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #7

Bazinga! George II Jan 2019 #8

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #37

Like Kamala, I'm with and for the people. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #39

Amen crazytown Jan 2019 #140

Only people who support Bernie are attacking Kamala Harris? Autumn Jan 2019 #11

Yes. George II Jan 2019 #13

Sure go with that George. Autumn Jan 2019 #14

They add their time and energy and effort to the right wing nut jobs. Enough. Hillary is right. boston bean Jan 2019 #15

+1 Hear me stamping my feet. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #18

What is an attack? If its an issue of voting record or tax returns or anythign else, that's fair JCanete Jan 2019 #222

That's your take away?? Might I ask what color the sky is in your world?? malchickiwick Jan 2019 #56

Today it's blue with a few gray clouds. Yours? Autumn Jan 2019 #74

It is reasonable to go with that treestar Jan 2019 #102

There are people who have done that every election. Remember the PUMAS in 08? Autumn Jan 2019 #116

They weren't as loud or long lasting treestar Jan 2019 #340

Yeah it has been over 2 years now since the election. I think most people have moved on . Autumn Jan 2019 #343

I remember it differently. Of course I doubt there were twitter trolls back then nt Autumn Jan 2019 #353

On the left, yes, pretty much NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #178

I'm a Bernie supporter on the Left among many others who support Harris so I'll go with that. Autumn Jan 2019 #180

sure, we Dems do prefer to go with the facts and it's a factual statement. Ninsianna Jan 2019 #237

Pretty broad brush. As a Democrat and a Bernie supporter I kind of like her. Autumn Jan 2019 #240

It's pretty accurate actually, and it would be nice if primaries don't once Ninsianna Jan 2019 #318

As a Dem I have always been open to what Dems say because Dems and progressives Autumn Jan 2019 #337

We were ROBBED god dammit. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #12

Speaking of "robbed" - I wish everyone.... DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #106

I think that if it's Russians who are the ones dismissing women and POC as "identity politics" ehrnst Jan 2019 #229

I'm on the far left (and the deep middle!) DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #246

We were ALL robbed of an HRC presidency. Chemisse Jan 2019 #245

Bernie has earned a second shot in 2020 based on his incredible showing... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #279

My point is that nobody should feel they are entitled or that it is their turn. Chemisse Jan 2019 #296

I hear you, BUT the point is, Hillary DID get her second chance... and DID almost win. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #323

You make a good point. Chemisse Jan 2019 #335

I see where you're coming from... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #346

"It's now Bernie's turn" NurseJackie Jan 2019 #356

Indeed! treestar Jan 2019 #467

When I read that poster proclaim "It's now Bernie's turn" I laughed and laughed... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #471

HIS TURN betsuni Jan 2019 #469

Hillary speaking the truth Renew Deal Jan 2019 #16

she did. Nobody was listening. onetexan Jan 2019 #139

So does this apply to all the "concern" about AOC? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #17

Why do you bring that up? George II Jan 2019 #20

I think because Kamala Harris isn't the only D. candidate, watoos Jan 2019 #28

Cortez is running for President? I guess I missed that. George II Jan 2019 #30

So we only apply this to POTUS candidates? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #126

Bazinga! watoos Jan 2019 #144

In a primary, EVERY side will bring up the negative points of any person polling karynnj Jan 2019 #190

BINGO!!! So why hold Bernie to a different standard?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #327

He attacks D E M O C R A T S Apollyonus Jan 2019 #443

I guess it applies to NFL quarterbacks, too - LA fans are already attacking Tom Brady. George II Jan 2019 #231

Afaik, AOC is not running for POTUS in 2020? nt PunkinPi Jan 2019 #23

2025 maybe. She isn't 30 yet. Srkdqltr Jan 2019 #38

So this rule only applies to POTUS candidates. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #125

Not what I said. The thread isn't about AOC and she hasn't declared candidacy for POTUS 2020. PunkinPi Jan 2019 #130

You're getting as obsessed with AOC as some were about Bernie! treestar Jan 2019 #103

She's a Dem. She gets attacked from the left. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #123

The thread is about Democrat Tulsi Gabbard. David__77 Jan 2019 #280

"A word from HRC about attacks from the left..." - the thread has nothing to do with Gabbard. George II Jan 2019 #298

It's about Gabbard and all Democrats. David__77 Jan 2019 #299

Gabbard attacks herself.. Cha Jan 2019 #310

Gabbard is part of a strong Democratic congressional caucus. David__77 Jan 2019 #311

Gabbard.. "Both sides are at fault.." For #trumpShutDOWN Cha Jan 2019 #312

Gabbard: 100% NARAL rating. David__77 Jan 2019 #314

Gabbard accuses Hirono, Democratic colleagues of religious bigotry Cha Jan 2019 #316

The AOC thing is getting out of hand for some people treestar Jan 2019 #338

Bravo Hillary! comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #19

Bernie isn't the 'left' bigtree Jan 2019 #21

He believes himself to be. ehrnst Jan 2019 #225

he also believed himself to be the head of a 'movement' bigtree Jan 2019 #288

Indeed. ehrnst Jan 2019 #347

Well said as usual, Hillary Clinton. Thank you. (nt) Paladin Jan 2019 #22

HERE'S A TRANSCRIPT... It's the best I could do on short notice. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #27

Thank you for the transcription, NJ! PunkinPi Jan 2019 #32

I agree. Very handy. (It's already in my DU signature!) NurseJackie Jan 2019 #128

Love your new sig, esp the gif ;) nt PunkinPi Jan 2019 #133

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #290

I supposes that's one way to misinterpret her message. But thoughtful people... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #292

Bazinga! George II Jan 2019 #293

Ha! betsuni Jan 2019 #295

Sorry but that's rehashing the primary, IMHO. watoos Jan 2019 #34

If Hillary Clinton herself can't be quoted here, then we should just shut this site down LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #41

+1 sarcasmo Jan 2019 #85

Silencing DEMOCRATS often appears to be the goal. I guess the only positive... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #181

Absolutely right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #183

Correct. We shall not be silenced once again Apollyonus Jan 2019 #447

No it's not. She's giving historical context with regard to what happened previously and ... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #48

Agreed. The OP had nothing to do with rehashing and to move on is not to learn from our mistakes. c-rational Jan 2019 #89

I agree. The elephant in the room is that RUSSIA TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #54

You wish she would get riled up about Russia?!? Where the hell have you been? MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #91

100% +1 Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #188

She's talking about misogyny in the context of the campaign, and how PunkinPi Jan 2019 #68

Russia trolled for Bernie. I imagined they don't want to talk about that ever. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #99

We know they did, but you can't put all the blame for the actions Sander's supporters on them LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #118

You are 100% correct. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #127

Sorry that excuse doesn't fly in the real world. Bernie will be vetted thoroughly MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #88

Oh God, it hurts to revisit this. Hillary's right. AGAIN. calimary Jan 2019 #55

I would change two words - DURHAM D Jan 2019 #80

Yep! I wish she had actually said "so-called" ... but her meaning was clear nevertheless. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #86

Don't get what the interviewer means about letting them treestar Jan 2019 #104

I agree, it's difficult to know where Jane Pauley was going with that. My best guess... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #113

Yes, good guess treestar Jan 2019 #342

THANK YOU! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #151

That Is Outstanding, NJ DarthDem Jan 2019 #301

Running as an independent or independent/Democrat can be very financially rewarding. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #304

Well said, Madam Legitimate President. MarianJack Jan 2019 #29

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #35

+ another million. calimary Jan 2019 #58

There is Deeply Entrenched Misogyny that Rears its Ugly Head Every Time a Woman Takes Center Stage dlk Jan 2019 #31

Have you checked how many women Democrats are in Congress? watoos Jan 2019 #40

Hell yes Al Franken was a true Democrat... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #90

Isn't that what's going on here? watoos Jan 2019 #146

No... PunkinPi Jan 2019 #175

Who is being thrown under the bus? ehrnst Jan 2019 #227

He held his own fate. He was weak and quit IMHO. He deserves no mourning. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #305

There is a wide streak of misogyny and racism on the left. ehrnst Jan 2019 #226

Divide and conquer Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #33

From what I've witnessed on twitter, "bernie's supporters" are.. Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #43

+1... SidDithers Jan 2019 #53

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #57

+ another million. calimary Jan 2019 #60

So if by some weird happening, watoos Jan 2019 #62

That's not our concern; if he wins the primary, we'll rally around him. What scares us is what LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #77

Everyone here will vote for the eventual nominee. That's what I always do emulatorloo Jan 2019 #110

Exactly right Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #201

Isn't that the truth Starry Messenger Jan 2019 #109

Just what Little Putin wants you to believe. Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #165

Oh please. Putin will do what putin will do. We shouldn't be useful idiots Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #185

But why make it easy for him? Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #205

Bingo! sheshe2 Jan 2019 #233

Well said Farmer-Rick. watoos Jan 2019 #45

"Democrats all sang the same tune and stuck together"... PunkinPi Jan 2019 #46

Why is it HRC who really won, has to gracefully admit defeat and go away...but BS supporters can Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #47

+ ANOTHER million. calimary Jan 2019 #71

Cumbaya. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #73

+100000000 treestar Jan 2019 #463

Bernie supporters have never stopped being pissed off mcar Jan 2019 #66

Or Huffpo, or YouTube, or . . . LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #75

Yep mcar Jan 2019 #76

Bernie never stopped running. He basically has been running Kahuna7 Jan 2019 #79

True mcar Jan 2019 #97

That was after she beat the five white guys who wanted to take her job. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #98

The exodus from here by the radicals made this site better. No need for mission creep. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #306

Tell that to BS.. he's trying to Marginalize Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates.. Cha Jan 2019 #309

She's right as usual. Thank you, Madam President lunamagica Jan 2019 #51

she IS right... our caucus became a yelling match... samnsara Jan 2019 #63

Same here. DURHAM D Jan 2019 #95

So glad she's speaking out! mcar Jan 2019 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Jan 2019 #67

I'm so glad she is pointing this out. Letting the double R B Garr Jan 2019 #70

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She is correct again. Sage advice from a real Democrat. allgood33 Jan 2019 #92

If anyone has the right to say that, it's certainly her! Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #94

If I wanted to, watoos Jan 2019 #159

The 2016 primary infighting was brutal Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #172

+1 fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #307

HRC is speaking out as part of our battle for 2020 now. Hortensis Jan 2019 #100

wish you had a megaphone big enough for all to hear your words Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #173

Before BS became his client this was Tad Devine's client - DURHAM D Jan 2019 #108

And before that Al Gore and John Kerry... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #147

Thank you Hillary!!! blue-wave Jan 2019 #112

This interview is from Sept 2017 n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #115

So? It's relevant to 2020. nt PunkinPi Jan 2019 #119

+1 fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #308

Great comments by Hillary Clinton Gothmog Jan 2019 #117

We now have major presidential candidates talking seriously about... doompatrol39 Jan 2019 #124

She didn't convince all of her supporters to back Obama Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #131

She's in my top three at this time. Autumn Jan 2019 #136

But she tried, from just a few days after she lost the vote. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #184

She did indeed. I attempted to give her full credit for that in my post above n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #187

I know; I restated it to highlight the contrast, which was as much as I though I could say LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #189

I figured that might be the case Tom Rinaldo Jan 2019 #192

So, let's start the new election cycle by attacking Bernie's supporters from the get-go? jalan48 Jan 2019 #137

No. She's not attacking them, she's speaking the truth about the behavior of Berniecrats during the onetexan Jan 2019 #141

This interview is over a year old. Why are we pretending it's current? jalan48 Jan 2019 #153

Nobody's pretending it's currently. I'm just responding to your post as i see it. onetexan Jan 2019 #160

"They're doing it again"? jalan48 Jan 2019 #162

This is a D page. Be sure to follow your own advice please. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #142

Well, if we want to go back to the hubris of "We got this" I think we're going to have trouble. jalan48 Jan 2019 #150

No sure what you're referring to. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #170

It was a term used on here a lot during the general election. The idea was no worries, we jalan48 Jan 2019 #182

She's speaking up on behalf of Kamala Harris and other Democrats. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #209

I'm sure she is. jalan48 Jan 2019 #234

Did you hear Bernie recently repeat his complaint about progressives voting for candidates pnwmom Jan 2019 #239

You don't think some people vote strictly because of gender and race? jalan48 Jan 2019 #241

I think it is very rare, and not a problem Bernie should be focused on. When he does, it insults pnwmom Jan 2019 #244

Really? Why do you think it's rare, especially with identity politics being the mode of the day? jalan48 Jan 2019 #248

I never read a single woman here or anywhere else online or in real life pnwmom Jan 2019 #262

I don't really know. Perhaps there is data online about it. Do you think Republican's vote jalan48 Jan 2019 #264

I think both male and female Republicans tend to vote for white males. Look at R's in Congress. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #266

I agree and I would add I think there are a fair number of Republicans who would vote jalan48 Jan 2019 #268

Right. But Bernie was specifically talking about progressives --so the issue of R's is a side issue. pnwmom Jan 2019 #272

Maybe so. I think in today's world of political tribalism some people are always going to vote for jalan48 Jan 2019 #273

Are you sure you want those who criticize the party or candidates to "go somewhere else"? aikoaiko Jan 2019 #143

Oh nice, slug it out, guys. elleng Jan 2019 #145

The only one (badly) slugging Apollyonus Jan 2019 #440

"If you don't want to support Democrats go somewhere else" Snotcicles Jan 2019 #148

So we shouldn't expect him to support Democrats? MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #155

No, I'm still a Democrat I would like him to join the party. It doesn't look like he is being Snotcicles Jan 2019 #168

And the threats start once again. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #177

This post breaks the DU rule: No divisive group attacks Dorn Jan 2019 #149

Ironic isn't it? jalan48 Jan 2019 #152

Feel free to alert if you think it breaks the rules. nt PunkinPi Jan 2019 #166

"If you don't want to support Democrats, then go somewhere else" DesertRat Jan 2019 #154

Agree, 100% orangecrush Jan 2019 #161

Where is it that Bernie supporters are attacking Kamala recentevents Jan 2019 #163

Other than Twitter, Huffpo, Salon, Slate, YouTube, Disqus, and Facebook, I haven't seen it anywhere LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #176

would you like to provide links? recentevents Jan 2019 #223

If people who claim to be "liberal" or "progressive" go somewhere else, then they are neither LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #247

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The 28% number was from early anger over Clinton's concession, and did not hold to the election: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #370

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Oh, good god. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #378

We need to do better than this. A lot better. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #164

If you don't want to support Democrats... radical noodle Jan 2019 #167

Its interesting that DU allows "certain" divisive threads, hmmm. nt elmac Jan 2019 #171

Can't take the truth bomb, eh? Cha Jan 2019 #319

This isn't a good look for HRC. I understand and KPN Jan 2019 #174

I think it's a wonderful look for her. lapucelle Jan 2019 #407

She said "a lot of his supporters" not some, KPN Jan 2019 #430

You might want to invest in a good dictionary. lapucelle Jan 2019 #449

Who's doing the gaslighting here? KPN Jan 2019 #453

Not the one with the dictionary... lapucelle Jan 2019 #454

ANYTHING MFM008 Jan 2019 #179

The ever-present Dem circular firing squad. We never learn. lindysalsagal Jan 2019 #186

anyone taken a peek at JPR lately? Mosby Jan 2019 #194

Let's Move On yellowwoodII Jan 2019 #199

ImWithHer. I agree 100%. oasis Jan 2019 #200

Damn, I wish she was president. Nitram Jan 2019 #202

I'm glad to hear her calling out sexism and misogyny spooky3 Jan 2019 #203

And people wonder why I have such a problem with Bernie running again. Initech Jan 2019 #208

YES! betsuni Jan 2019 #212

I supported Hillary 100% Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #216

I'm glad you asked. And I only speak for myself. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #261

Beavis, haha, yes! You said it! Thought we were clued in to these Russian sources, as you point out. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #330

Very timely reminder. ucrdem Jan 2019 #217

wow...that's nonense. He did support her post primary. This is totally a winning JCanete Jan 2019 #221

Enough of your WhatAboutism. Cha Jan 2019 #249

Ha! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #250

I am on a private facebook page for clinton delegates to the national convention s Gothmog Jan 2019 #275

"sanders efforts to elect trump" LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #287

Did enough Bernie Sanders supporters vote for Trump to cost Clinton the election? Gothmog Jan 2019 #381

That shows that it was even worse than I feared. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #392

There are a ton of hard core Democrats who will not forget or forgive Gothmog Jan 2019 #400

you always bring the content Cha, I can always count on you for the heavy lifting. As an aside, JCanete Jan 2019 #322

Hillary is Dead On.. deal with it. Cha Jan 2019 #374

Not really. Not in any meaningful way. Everyone knows it. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #253

Thank You, Nurse Jackie! Cha Jan 2019 #256

Its not true almost everyting that we just watched being said in the video and yet.... JCanete Jan 2019 #332

What is not true? betsuni Jan 2019 #333

one glaringnly obvious mistake is that its mysoginy from the left that was the factor that made JCanete Jan 2019 #360

LOL your low-hanging fruit is wrong. betsuni Jan 2019 #410

oh wow, I shall have to reevaluate based upon the information you've brought me here. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #411

... betsuni Jan 2019 #412

What is not true? Gothmog Jan 2019 #336

I see. So... you're calling Hillary a liar. Got it! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #350

Actually I didn't. I think she's wrong over and over here. I think she believes what she's said, but JCanete Jan 2019 #362

I see. So... you're calling Hillary delusional. Charming! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #363

well somebody is wrong. Its okay to call Sanders names I guess or to say he's the one JCanete Jan 2019 #366

I have done no such thing. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #369

Sounds as though what HRC said hit a nerve. ehrnst Jan 2019 #351

well, I already broke down the problems with the statements in the video. As usual, no takers on JCanete Jan 2019 #359

Tag. You're it. ehrnst Jan 2019 #408

... betsuni Jan 2019 #415

damn, love that piece. been years since i've heard it. Played it once in a youth symphony. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #423

I saw the level of support that sanders gave clinton and it was weak or non-existent Gothmog Jan 2019 #274

Susan Bordo: betsuni Jan 2019 #282

Part of the process of being a national delegate in every state is signing an oath Gothmog Jan 2019 #285

I guess oaths are too establishment. betsuni Jan 2019 #286

The sanders delegates who attacked Hillary Clinton ignored their oaths Gothmog Jan 2019 #341

And many, many discarded that oath: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #358

I saw this first hand Gothmog Jan 2019 #379

Bitter.. Thanks, betunsi. Cha Jan 2019 #315

There is a right way and a wrong way to endorse someone Gothmog Jan 2019 #339

It was disgusting and pathetic.. and Cha Jan 2019 #376

Total BS that Clinton supporters didn't support Obama NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #283

Thank You, Riff! Cha Jan 2019 #291

I was not here in 2008. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #294

the numbers are the numbers. I didn't say Clinton supporters didn't support Obama. Maybe JCanete Jan 2019 #321

Well said JC!! +1,000,000!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #331

It took Sanders 8 weeks and 3 days to endorse Clinton. joshcryer Jan 2019 #345

You make a valid point. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #352

+1 /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #357

contrast being a powerful insider who was going to get offered a position in the administration and JCanete Jan 2019 #365

In that case, I recommend a different perspective. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #371

Boooom! Cha Jan 2019 #373

Of course it did.. someone trying to spin Cha Jan 2019 #375

Here are some facts about sanders helping trump win Gothmog Jan 2019 #380

I've addressed your facts over and over.......and over and over and over. You never respond to my JCanete Jan 2019 #382

LOL-the fact are the facts and ignoring these facts will not change them Gothmog Jan 2019 #383

you are trying to make them mean something they don't. I've explained why they don't JCanete Jan 2019 #384

And yet the Washington Post disagrees strongly with your claims Gothmog Jan 2019 #385

no it doesn't. it simply doesn't address my issues with its own journalism and reporting. JCanete Jan 2019 #386

LOL-I live in the real world and I trust experts and facts Gothmog Jan 2019 #388

good to know the experts never lie. And how long was it before we finally abandoned the totally JCanete Jan 2019 #391

Gothmog gave you numbers and links; you have done nothing to refute that information, other than LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #393

you are jumping into a converation you don't have context for. You don't know how our conversations JCanete Jan 2019 #395

I've read every post you've made, and the search function works. I'm well aware of how your LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #396

How would those be completely irrelevant to the discussion? They are entirely relevant. How JCanete Jan 2019 #397

I trust the experts at the Washington Post Gothmog Jan 2019 #405

Facts matter in the real world Gothmog Jan 2019 #399

The experts at the Washington Post disagree Gothmog Jan 2019 #404

they don't disagree, they simply don't address these issues. Can you? no? JCanete Jan 2019 #406

Read the article Gothmog Jan 2019 #419

I DID. You have failed to challenge my dispute. The fact that I haven't gotten WaPo to acknowledge JCanete Jan 2019 #424

The real world is a nice place where facts and expert opinions matter Gothmog Jan 2019 #425

okay, case rested. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #427

Seriously, your posts would be better if you used facts or attempted to back up claims Gothmog Jan 2019 #429

+1000 ehrnst Jan 2019 #431

"Sternly worded email or letter," ehrnst Jan 2019 #459

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jan 2019 #398

+1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #402

He didn't support her very strongly and many of his supporters treestar Jan 2019 #465

K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #228

Putin rick-rolled the Bernista's aeromanKC Jan 2019 #230

Bernie is not zentrum Jan 2019 #232

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #238

Bernie equals Trump? No. I don't know what motive you'd have to call him a Republicon. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #243

I was a die-hard Bernie supporter in the last primary. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2019 #242

Hillary is Dead On!! Cha Jan 2019 #255

She is, and you're welcome Cha! PunkinPi Jan 2019 #334

Listen up Miigwech Jan 2019 #260

I was a Bernie supporter. Then I certainly did vote against Trump. (For Hillary) TryLogic Jan 2019 #263

Bravo, Madame Secretary! lapucelle Jan 2019 #265

I did not know he spoke about trump women wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #269

Who is "he" and who are the "trump women"? What are you talking about? N/T lapucelle Jan 2019 #271

As someone who supported Hillary over Bernie, I prefer Bernie now over Hillary or Kamala Harris... Galraedia Jan 2019 #277

Word nt Snotcicles Jan 2019 #354

No Democrat should attack ANY Democratic candidate, period. Liberty Belle Jan 2019 #281

Everything HRC said in this interview was absolutely true. democratisphere Jan 2019 #284

Progressives WILL be on board in 2020, no matter what, just as we were last time in record numbers. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #329

Way too many were NOT onboard. democratisphere Jan 2019 #344

Telling a sizable portion of the electorate to go somewhere else is really fucking smart Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #361

I suppose that's one way to misinterpret her message. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #364

Who said anything about going somewhere else in 2020? democratisphere Jan 2019 #368

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #289

Bump. fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #300

"Why not let them concentrate on the Trump administration?" betsuni Jan 2019 #303

Sounds like you're describing Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" when you say that. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #355

... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #377

we have a good rule at DU KayF Jan 2019 #387

Thanks for kicking the thread. PunkinPi Jan 2019 #389

congrats on the big numbers KayF Jan 2019 #390

I think we should listen to the sage advice of our 2016 candidate, so we don't repeat the same PunkinPi Jan 2019 #409

In 2016, we had possibly the most qualified candidate ever, who lost to a reality TV host LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #394

Some the attacks against Kamala are dirtier today than against Hillary in 2016. RandySF Jan 2019 #401

I agree Gothmog Jan 2019 #403

Too late: Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #416

Wow, that is disgusting... PunkinPi Jan 2019 #417

Ironically, it's the "zoo" that repeatedly Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #418

I saw these and worse on twitter yesterday Gothmog Jan 2019 #420

I don't doubt it.... Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #421

Disgusting mcar Jan 2019 #428

So Creepy. Cha Jan 2019 #437

Good grief. honest.abe Jan 2019 #439

She's making it worse NinaNeon Jan 2019 #434

Hillary is telling the truth.. that's shining Cha Jan 2019 #436

Exactly. honest.abe Jan 2019 #438

this is from 2017 KayF Jan 2019 #442

Then you tell his supporters to calm the hell down, please... Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #450

It's both sides NinaNeon Jan 2019 #455

LOL BOTH SIDES. betsuni Jan 2019 #456

Well it's accurate isn't it NinaNeon Jan 2019 #457

Worse for those who can't handle the truth. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #472

LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #474

What Hillary is up to... Cha Jan 2019 #435

we got punked KayF Jan 2019 #444

No "we" didn't get punked... PunkinPi Jan 2019 #452

what does the tweet say? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #446

you're in luck KayF Jan 2019 #448