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Glamrock

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19. Kind of agree, kinda don't.

Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:56 PM

Jan 2019

Outside the diehard Dem base he's still very popular. But, with 4 more years added to his age, he's gonna have an uphill battle. Kamala is going to pull the majority of the black vote. No question. And a lot of the diehards too. Bernie will pull a bunch of independents and those who consider themselves to be far left. Biden will pull from all of the above as he was part of a positive, successful administration. If Biden doesn't run, I'm betting it'll be between Kamala and Bernie. And I'm betting it's gonna be a tough, close race between the two. The rest of the field is wasting their time in my estimation. Top tier are going to be Kamala, Bernie, & Biden (if he runs). The only wildcard would be Beto. If he runs (and that's a big if) his ability to speak in such an inspirational way could flip the field. Just my opinion!

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Math says to me that Sanders has a shot at winning the nomination [View all] NewJeffCT Jan 2019 OP

Tell Math to stop drinking in the middle of the day. Squinch Jan 2019 #1

... lapucelle Jan 2019 #3

lol PunkinPi Jan 2019 #5

Bwah! cwydro Jan 2019 #6

Snort!😂 we can do it Jan 2019 #15

+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #16

LOL! Ha! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #17

Ha! mcar Jan 2019 #29

This!!! MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #46

Fixin' to have an aperitif 🍷after that one! 😆 sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #55

Go home math, you're drunk! Initech Jan 2019 #58

... lunamagica Jan 2019 #65

There was a smear in my screen that made it look like "Meth says" ... Yikes Hekate Jan 2019 #71

I must have had something on my screen too that made me see "Meth says....".... Pachamama Jan 2019 #146

It was your brain, trying to reformat what you read into a logical sentence Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #227

! icymist Jan 2019 #93

Okay, you owe me a keyboard NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #96

... sheshe2 Jan 2019 #101

... betsuni Jan 2019 #122

.... ehrnst Jan 2019 #149

Too early to predict. Laurian Jan 2019 #2

My daughters and I won't caucus for him exboyfil Jan 2019 #7

I don't see him going third party and helping Republicans win. ooky Jan 2019 #18

He's too pure for us Dems & played games right into the Convention. He'll play games again... Hekate Jan 2019 #73

BERNIE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. HE IS TRYING TO HURT THE PARTY. BERNIE VOTERS GAVE US TRUMP barbiegeek Jan 2019 #156

I do. awesomerwb1 Jan 2019 #78

Ummmm sheshe2 Jan 2019 #108

Ummmm ooky Jan 2019 #123

Okay. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #124

He explained that he didn't go 3rd party last time because of $$ and marketing ehrnst Jan 2019 #151

Which candidates will draw away his votes? And, will they stay away? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #145

OK - so, let's say he retains HALF of his support NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #148

You've made assumptions to get to your conclusion manor321 Jan 2019 #4

I think you are correct. ooky Jan 2019 #23

Yes indeed. Mariana Jan 2019 #30

Thanks for realizing that NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #142

I think it could be even higher than 75% InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #66

... SidDithers Jan 2019 #83

+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #90

It could be 200%! Or 300%! NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #97

Right on! (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #208

Something else says that a whole lot of those 10 million votes will be spread... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #8

You must stop using OLD MATH and get onboard with NEW MATH. democratisphere Jan 2019 #9

Lol ... obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2019 #10

Reality tells me he has no shot calguy Jan 2019 #11

and now he has the #metoo problem trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #57

I agree and I think many of his early supporters soured on him by the end. Chemisse Jan 2019 #88

More fun, and completely useless math... SidDithers Jan 2019 #12

I support Bernie. Whether or not he wins the primary, his voice will be valuable during the debates. earthshine Jan 2019 #13

You got that right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #67

What exactly is "progressive" about encouraging anyone to smear and denigrate Democrats? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #76

He will have to cough up his tax returns to get in the debates. n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #89

When his delegates booed John Lewis at our last convention. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #105

I remember that. JL dissed Bernie first. earthshine Jan 2019 #107

You so blithely defend booing John Lewis? GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #110

Right. This was the march that he denied Bernie's presence, yes? earthshine Jan 2019 #115

Bernie was now at the Selma March!! LOL. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #117

Sorry. He was at the March on Washington, not Selma. My bad. earthshine Jan 2019 #125

Please. You defended the booing of John Lewis. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #127

I did not defend the booing. Enough of that. earthshine Jan 2019 #130

Mitch McConnell was at the Washington march too. comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #134

Your reply does not address my post. So, your point is irrelevant. earthshine Jan 2019 #137

He didn't say that. "I never saw him. I never met him" is what he said. betsuni Jan 2019 #116

Read his/her last reply to me. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #118

It IS depressing. betsuni Jan 2019 #119

And John Lewis only said he never met Bernie. Because some of his delusional supporters claimed BS GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #120

Good point about young northern liberals in the 1880s. betsuni Jan 2019 #121

I was at the convention when the sanders delegates pulled this stunt Gothmog Jan 2019 #133

Phones with cameras blanket every square yard of civilization yet you've never posted a video. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #158

Where you there? Gothmog Jan 2019 #160

Before I go chasing down some rabbit hole and read your long screed, no video? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #161

Ask your fellow sanders supporters who are JPR posters Gothmog Jan 2019 #164

That's absolutely true. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #168

Are sanders supporters getting worried? Gothmog Jan 2019 #193

Here is a video I pulled off Youtube Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #211

Doesn't anyone even read threads anymore? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #213

Time will tell Gothmog Feb 2019 #223

How about this: George II Jan 2019 #165

Nope. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #167

I was there and so were a ton of other true Democrats Gothmog Jan 2019 #170

You know the old saying...."you can lead a horse to water................" George II Jan 2019 #171

S. Bee did a good segment on this Gothmog Jan 2019 #172

That's the one I was referring to, it was hysterical (and too true) George II Jan 2019 #177

I love Sam Bee Gothmog Feb 2019 #225

Again... ehrnst Jan 2019 #174

"To the Bernie or Bust people, you're being ridiculous" Sarah Silverman at the convention. betsuni Jan 2019 #219

"This isn't about Lewis but" Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #221

There was disruption and Lewis was booed. betsuni Jan 2019 #222

The cheering by delegates was because we were warned in advance about this stunt Gothmog Jan 2019 #175

Not to mention, the whole point was that Senator Sanders had fewer delegates. KitSileya Apr 2019 #235

For this thread Gothmog Jan 2019 #169

OMG .. one must be comatose not to have remembered that Apollyonus Jan 2019 #214

I was there and I was shocked when I got the text from my whip Gothmog Feb 2019 #224

Perhaps you missed this: ehrnst Jan 2019 #173

That was outside of the convention that morning Gothmog Jan 2019 #176

The booing at Marcia Fudge when she opened the convention is also on video. ehrnst Jan 2019 #178

There were so many incidents like that incident that I lost count Gothmog Jan 2019 #179

Are you still in denial about what happen at the convention? Gothmog Feb 2019 #232

Some history Gothmog Feb 2019 #233

for This thread Gothmog Mar 2019 #234

JL said he didn't see BS at the march, most likely because BS wasn't there. lapucelle Jan 2019 #155

BERNIE TOOK NRA MONEY FLUSH FROM RUSSIA JUST LIKE TRUMP barbiegeek Jan 2019 #159

THIS n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #215

Talk about progressives... sheshe2 Jan 2019 #112

any candidate that pulls the party to the left is valuable in the primary. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #126

So are you ok with the booing of John Lewis Apollyonus Jan 2019 #216

Nomination for what? Most divisive? we can do it Jan 2019 #14

Kind of agree, kinda don't. Glamrock Jan 2019 #19

Bernie won't last past NH mathematically Apollyonus Jan 2019 #217

Old Towne Media still up and running? KitSileya Apr 2019 #236

Look, I supported Sen. Sanders in the last primary Bettie Jan 2019 #20

His campaign may serve as non-violent "brass knuckles" to promote progressive policy position. David__77 Jan 2019 #36

Those things would be great and I think that we should work toward them Bettie Jan 2019 #77

The Democratic candidates are progressive enough Apollyonus Jan 2019 #92

Math needs to put away the hash pipe. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #21

I do know a lot of "Bernie" people Bettie Jan 2019 #79

Just about everybody I know supported Bernie in the primaries The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #81

The key point is that many of the candidates this year Bettie Jan 2019 #82

Put away the booze or whatever you are smoking. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #22

Math says to me, Donald Trump would love Bernie to run against him. Doodley Jan 2019 #24

+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #138

I note that the "math" is based on him retaining 75% of what he had last time karynnj Jan 2019 #25

That would mean both parties are running kremlin candidates. RT can host the debates. PSPS Jan 2019 #26

He's a great favorite of their hosta and his former employees/surrogates Ninsianna Jan 2019 #42

Thanks for the chilling reminder. nt Hekate Jan 2019 #87

Math DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #27

Right Glamrock Jan 2019 #33

Except . . . DarthDem Jan 2019 #54

What you said. Sheesh.....🙄 sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #60

True true. Glamrock Jan 2019 #63

Understood DarthDem Jan 2019 #106

Oh shit that's right! Glamrock Jan 2019 #132

You Got it! DarthDem Jan 2019 #181

However NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #152

Just like in 2016, Sanders will be effectively eliminated once the South and CA vote in early March. LonePirate Jan 2019 #28

And, CA will break heavily for Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #48

He will keep on trucking Apollyonus Jan 2019 #86

why are you parroting RW smears against Bernie? Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #128

Bernie's tax returns will prove me wrong Apollyonus Jan 2019 #129

your disinformation is very troubling. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #131

Wrong. The RW loves Bernie. Tad Devine and Paul Manafort R B Garr Jan 2019 #200

K&R CentralMass Jan 2019 #31

The math tells me that he has zero chance, assuming GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #32

He can switch to Dem anytime he feels like it. Glamrock Jan 2019 #34

Get back to me when he actually switches. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #37

Be prepared. Glamrock Jan 2019 #39

But, not likely as a Democrat, which is what this post is about. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #41

Hope that's not true Glamrock Jan 2019 #44

And stay warm up there in Chi-town Glamrock Jan 2019 #40

I live in South Carolina. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #43

And you're a Cubs fan? Glamrock Jan 2019 #45

I was born and raised in Chicago. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #49

My apologies! Glamrock Jan 2019 #51

Just goes to show you can use math ro prove anything if your assumptions are Takket Jan 2019 #35

No. Perhaps you don't speak Math? Ninsianna Jan 2019 #38

Math is a big part of my daily job NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #189

LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #192

Math is a big part of how I view the world especially stats and politics. Ninsianna Feb 2019 #228

the same concept NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #229

He will not win CA. I'd say he doesn't have a snow ball's chance in hell. wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #47

I am betting Kamala Harris will take CA and most southern states obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #50

Agreed. yardwork Jan 2019 #75

And, CA and many southern states are Super Tuesday states obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #186

You mispelled "meth" LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #52

Not if a Dem woman runs shanti Jan 2019 #53

Is this Meth Math? sarcasmo Jan 2019 #56

Public radio runs an ad for 'Math Lab'. (?) sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #103

no reason to believe he gets 75% qazplm135 Jan 2019 #59

I voted for Bernie in the primary last time VMA131Marine Jan 2019 #61

I think your last sentence says it all DFW Jan 2019 #62

He hasnt confirmed yet he is running AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #64

... LexVegas Jan 2019 #68

Please bernie... do what's right for your country DONT run Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #69

K&R!!!!! Ernesto Jan 2019 #80

K&R barbiegeek Jan 2019 #157

Excellent analysis. Go Bernie! Joe941 Jan 2019 #70

Is he a Democrat yet? Hekate Jan 2019 #72

No ... and he never really is a Democrat. Greywing Jan 2019 #74

Fuzzy Math? nt Apollyonus Jan 2019 #84

That's not even close to how primaries play out. MyNameGoesHere Jan 2019 #85

hope not! he is too much like trump! demigoddess Jan 2019 #91

THIS Apollyonus Jan 2019 #94

A campaign based on assuring people their problems are someone else's fault Recursion Jan 2019 #136

Sanders will not get anywhere close to what he got in 2016 standingtall Jan 2019 #95

That is possible NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #99

Actually I doubt that he retains as much support as you think, BUT he does have a chance andym Jan 2019 #98

Not gonna happen. Warren will take at least half his votes. tinrobot Jan 2019 #100

He had the support of and extensive Russian operation in 2016 delisen Jan 2019 #102

Not new math, it's NewJeffMath! FSogol Jan 2019 #104

Voted Bernie on the primaries last time FreeState Jan 2019 #109

Math must not be your strong suit. honest.abe Jan 2019 #111

Not sure about the exact math... Mike Nelson Jan 2019 #113

I see that Bernie Math is back in action. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #114

I was just about to post about that Bernie math! KitSileya Jan 2019 #135

Bernie supporter last time... sfwriter Jan 2019 #139

You are the kind of person I'm talking about in post #162. (nt) apnu Jan 2019 #163

"Like Bernie, they fled the party the second they realized they are one voice among many here..." sfwriter Jan 2019 #180

The poster is right, though -- many did flee and voted for Trump obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #187

I thought only Democrats could run as a Democrat now? What did I miss? nt allgood33 Jan 2019 #140

NewJeff, start subtracting votes for Howard Schultz, Hortensis Jan 2019 #141

I don't see him as much of a factor NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #143

Me either yet, of course. But we know Bloomberg is Hortensis Jan 2019 #144

You're making too many assumptions in your calculation Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #147

That doesn't take into account vetting that has yet to be done, especially ehrnst Jan 2019 #150

Sanders got away without releasing tax returns last time NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #153

It will be different this time after all the attention focused on DT's hidden returns ehrnst Jan 2019 #154

Do these numbers presume Bernie cats stayed in the Dem party? apnu Jan 2019 #162

O'Malley wasn't on Sanders' left in 2016 NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #191

Next year won't be the same as 2016 - both Biden and Sanders will be four years older... George II Jan 2019 #166

Now math is the friend of Sanders supporters? MyNameGoesHere Jan 2019 #182

when did I say I was a Sanders supporter? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #183

Obligatory: betsuni Jan 2019 #184

Reading comprehension is not a strength of yours now, is it? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #188

LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #190

I love this video Gothmog Jan 2019 #195

It never gets old, very well done. betsuni Jan 2019 #220

#BernieMath...nt SidDithers Jan 2019 #185

You saw what I posted in my original post, right? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #196

There is always a chance Apollyonus Jan 2019 #218

There is no math in January 2019, a year before people vote. themaguffin Jan 2019 #194

Provided those other candidates are still there when the primaries start. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #197

Bernie has a chance if he runs ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #198

what a list bdamomma Jan 2019 #199

well most of his followers are 4 yrs older now.. they have grown up and got jobs, married, kids... samnsara Jan 2019 #201

Math says to me Sanders would likely lead to a trump -- or other GOPer -- candidate's victory. Hoyt Jan 2019 #202

Bernie's time has past. dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #203

How many of those 2016 voters that think he is "damaged goods" NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #205

I noticed I-Sanders is seeking photos ops with Ocasio. Hortensis Jan 2019 #210

That was then randr Jan 2019 #204

How novel, another Bernie thread. flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #206

Of Course He Does (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #207

I love DU math, lol cbdo2007 Jan 2019 #209

You forgot to carry the 2. nt TeamPooka Jan 2019 #212

If I understand correctly, the DNC passed a rule over the summer that says hughee99 Feb 2019 #226

Sanders May struggle in primaries Gothmog Feb 2019 #230

Yes - I had posted elsewhere just today NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #231