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yurbud

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207. so...Great Britain suddenly got religion on sex crimes and decided questioning suspects

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:08 PM

Aug 2012

from other countries is more important than respecting foreign embassies and consulates?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and has nothing to do with sex.

In this case, the effort expended to go after Assange makes it far more likely they want him for other reasons.

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Assange turned out to be a coward [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP

Are You Paid By The Word, The Post, Or The Opinion ??? WillyT Aug 2012 #1

ooh willy, +100000000000 xiamiam Aug 2012 #12

However... but he is being paid. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #21

Now, now, it's against DU rules to accuse other DUers of astroturfing... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #25

Bwahaahaa! Darlin'...you have done won my heart forever. Zorra Aug 2012 #44

Bring A Nickel, Tap Yo Feet... WillyT Aug 2012 #91

Love this! n/t Tess49 Aug 2012 #181

Gotta go with you on that one. Zalatix Aug 2012 #110

+ whatever is the most plus possible. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #119

lol Matariki Aug 2012 #135

Dude has averaged 22 posts a day for 8.5 years. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #201

Yeh, keep ignoring the possibility of his being sent to America. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #2

65,000+ posts????? joeybee12 Aug 2012 #3

You aren't interested in what the Swedes are saying in response to all the accusations struggle4progress Aug 2012 #29

I remember when the vast majority of U.S. citizens believed that Al Gore invented the internet. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #48

The point of view doesn't seem very rightwing to me: the author doesn't believe Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #51

It's more than "the author doesn't like Assange." Scootaloo Aug 2012 #101

Eeek! It's an attempt at persuasion! *hand-wringing* struggle4progress Aug 2012 #116

Very good, you identified the intent Scootaloo Aug 2012 #118

+1 progressoid Aug 2012 #209

Read the comments if you want to know what the Swedish people think I just did: sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #60

Thank you! For some reason, Google Translate wouldn't translate the comments for me. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #71

I found a good site. Some of them don't translate very well or not at all. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #73

The following Swedish-English dictionary was recommended to me eridani Aug 2012 #106

I keep wondering creeksneakers2 Aug 2012 #78

They can't. There are no requests from the US for extradition, yet. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #80

People are unaware the OP is a QUOTE, I guess Warpy Aug 2012 #79

You have to have done something extremely right to get that many high-level bastards against you. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #107

It is Swedish equivalent tama Aug 2012 #128

Assange is a Hero. Vox Moi Aug 2012 #4

A hero to some.... PragmaticLiberal Aug 2012 #49

He's done a tremendous amount of good for the world at incredible personal cost. 20score Aug 2012 #162

He who fights and runs away...etc n/t LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #5

Lives to fight another day! mazzarro Aug 2012 #108

Laughable Sweden's the coward, too cowardly to stand up to the US and issue a non extradition treaty riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #6

How do you "issue a non-extradition treaty"? TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #62

All Sweden has to do is say they won't allow Assange to be extradited to the U.S. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #140

And why should Sweden defy international law and piss off the US for... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #143

If Sweden was following its old precedents backscatter712 Aug 2012 #145

Assange is threatened with the death penalty now? And the prosecution is... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #148

There's that grand-jury investigation in the U.S. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #149

And when was that last used? Even Manning wasn't seriously threatened... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #153

Ira Einhorn. The prosecutor finally took death off the table, and the guy ran it up the flagpole MADem Aug 2012 #180

That's him. He did bounce around for 20 years before... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #182

He used the old "Say it forcefully enough, and people will believe you" schtick. MADem Aug 2012 #183

Is it defying international law when they refuse to extradite capital cases? EOTE Aug 2012 #197

Not true-- as long as there are no capital charges they are still... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #199

Please cite this law. EOTE Aug 2012 #203

I'll cite nothing-- I'm not a lawyer. But, this is not a law, it's... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #204

So you're pulling this out of your ass? EOTE Aug 2012 #205

Who's pulling what out of an ass? Not you, of course... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #206

I am not a fan of Assange but these attacks on him are becoming comical. grantcart Aug 2012 #7

I know - they're beyond absurd! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #36

we get that you despise him--is this latest screed for the newbies? niyad Aug 2012 #8

It's Swedish opinion. We know what Ecuador and the UK think. Let's hear from Sweden struggle4progress Aug 2012 #11

Let's hear from the women who claim they were NOT raped MNBrewer Aug 2012 #19

I give you the one and only interview they did....which weirdly enough is hard to find translated riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #31

Ooo, great link! You won't mind it I quote from it, I'm sure: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #35

Go nuts. I'm only interested in the women from the Assange case riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #37

I'm using your link, which indicates it's one of the women involved who is quoted there struggle4progress Aug 2012 #38

Yes, who states it wasn't rape. "Voluntary relations" is pretty explicit nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #41

So maybe Assange will be back out of the hands of the Swedish police soon after surrendering to them struggle4progress Aug 2012 #52

The situation at least one woman described is clearly rape by Swedish law. pnwmom Aug 2012 #113

Assange denies these allegations. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #172

Let him deny them in Sweden, where the allegations were made, and where he is wanted struggle4progress Aug 2012 #190

Sure he will, Sweden just has to give him an assurance they won't extradite him to the US. Simple nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #192

Funny that she didn't say anything like that when she invited him to stay with her sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #103

"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #198

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #30

Self-delete leveymg Aug 2012 #45

Damn. I may just have to guzzle down some mead and set sail for England struggle4progress Aug 2012 #57

"I would say go to hell, but you probably would not want to?" Do I have that translation right? MADem Aug 2012 #184

A bit more earthy than that. I apologize. leveymg Aug 2012 #185

It is Swedish opinion tama Aug 2012 #129

Whatever your thing is with Julian Assange is just down right creepy. What is Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Aug 2012 #28

Yeah.. sendero Aug 2012 #10

i pray they never get their hands on him..he deserves the right to do what he does xiamiam Aug 2012 #22

Do you ask those questions of DUers with far more posts? former9thward Aug 2012 #68

Most DUers with far more posts laundry_queen Aug 2012 #77

I don't get it either, I have been here over eight years, but lack the HUGE spam count Dragonfli Aug 2012 #85

I see people knocking posters for having just a few posts. former9thward Aug 2012 #195

I can multitask. nt laundry_queen Aug 2012 #202

I got many of those posts serving as a DU2 moderator: sometimes as moderator I'd have 200 posts/day struggle4progress Aug 2012 #87

And the rest you got by spammng Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #167

I think we know who the real coward is. And a non-thinker as well. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #13

What a strange post. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #14

This poster has been all over DU trying to tear this man down and Cleita Aug 2012 #18

He's been waging an amazingly persistent campaign. The posts keep coming! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #54

I asked him and he hasn't answered. n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #55

You really have it in for him. Cleita Aug 2012 #15

Who cares if Assange is courageous? Cicada Aug 2012 #16

Please show me on this doll where Julian Assange touched you Electric Monk Aug 2012 #17

Oh. My. Gawd!! Best laugh I've had all day riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #23

! graywarrior Aug 2012 #27

Genuinely LOL! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #33

This is a very deserving post. I'm waiting for an answer. Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #39

heh. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #109

Ahahahahahahaha Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #160

Heeheehee! Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author lordsummerisle Aug 2012 #24

Another article from the Swedish FOX News... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #26

If you read Swedish (and I do) Demeter Aug 2012 #32

All I've been getting is the Google Translate version of the article. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #34

Given the unkind stereotypes of Sweden circulated here by Assange supporters, I thought it fair struggle4progress Aug 2012 #117

Stereotypes, or facts? Demeter Aug 2012 #125

I suppose some people might regard it as a clarion call for fascism, if one wrote an article saying struggle4progress Aug 2012 #130

Not a good job then tama Aug 2012 #131

A view often suggested here at DU is that the Swedish courts are merely prostitutes struggle4progress Aug 2012 #141

Well tama Aug 2012 #147

seems the article only serves to reinforce those opinions.. frylock Aug 2012 #154

Contrary does not mean correct. progressoid Aug 2012 #210

Now you have just become obnoxious and irritating Marrah_G Aug 2012 #40

It's more fun to harangue him! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #42

as you wish struggle4progress Aug 2012 #63

Smear campaign FAIL. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #43

want to bet his flight would end up In Washington DC, NOT sweden lol nt msongs Aug 2012 #46

If by "coward" they mean a smart chess player, then I agree. It's a fraudulent case. Gregorian Aug 2012 #47

Retreating in the face of overwhelming force isn't cowardice, it's good strategy. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #53

Clear? tama Aug 2012 #134

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2012 #50

.. Cha Aug 2012 #67

A welcome confirmation, as always, that I am on the right side of the issue. nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #89

Why are you so overtly obsessed with Assange? It's bordering on surreal. Owl Aug 2012 #56

No shit, Owl. The OP is almost as obsessed with attacking him hifiguy Aug 2012 #61

I do wonder why the OP is so determined? n/t backscatter712 Aug 2012 #64

Hero or not, Assange is unlikely to get a fair trial bhikkhu Aug 2012 #58

The people afraid of the truth Assange has exposed are cowards... nt Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #59

LEAVE JULIAN ALONE!!!! cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #65

.. Cha Aug 2012 #70

Well in the opinions of a large segment of the World's population, he is. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #75

It sure was thoughtful of Wikileaks to help the Belarusian government identify its opponents: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #124

Some of those articles are highly biased, ronnie624 Aug 2012 #138

If Wikileaks were running a little private intelligence service on the side, selling information struggle4progress Aug 2012 #142

Making those accusations is one thing, ronnie624 Aug 2012 #146

I gave you a link to a thread with multiple links in it, tending to support that ugly possibility struggle4progress Aug 2012 #156

I don't think 'progressive' means what you think it does. n/t ronnie624 Aug 2012 #105

Heh! Capt. Obvious Aug 2012 #123

Oh yes, the Swedes, the ones who rolled over for the Nazis. Matilda Aug 2012 #66

Sweden managed to maintain it's neutrality during both world wars and during the cold war struggle4progress Aug 2012 #76

You Need To Get Out More, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #102

the 1% called Incitatus Aug 2012 #69

I'd speculate as to how they're expressing their gratitude... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #72

That's okay. Incitatus Aug 2012 #74

Without people to do the work for them Hydra Aug 2012 #81

For some reason I was reminded of this: Incitatus Aug 2012 #82

Pathetic. I hope they don't pay you much. Marr Aug 2012 #83

Fellow DU citizen, I must remind you that accusing people of being paid shills is a no-no. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #86

I have to agree. Bonobo Aug 2012 #88

Exactly. It would be terrible form to hurl such insults, even when they're well-deserved. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #92

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #115

my understanding is that changed with DU3. uncle ray Aug 2012 #93

LOL. 'Drown our voices out?' RZM Aug 2012 #94

Some people, who fancy themselves free-thinkers, cannot stand dissent struggle4progress Aug 2012 #97

Dissent or not, it's bizarre faux-persecution RZM Aug 2012 #99

What if it is true? We should just shut up? Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #120

According to the rules... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #126

If you don't like the opinion, you can complain to the Swedish newspaper that published it struggle4progress Aug 2012 #90

Just to let you know: You give away your bias so badly... Bonobo Aug 2012 #95

It's thoughtful of you to say so, I suppose, but I'm not hiding my views struggle4progress Aug 2012 #96

Less a question of "views", more a question of "state of mind". nt Bonobo Aug 2012 #98

it's not a "swedish" view, it's a "right-wing swedish" view. it's aftonbladt. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #114

Aftonbladet is one of the older newspapers in Sweden. The history of the newspaper struggle4progress Aug 2012 #133

i know it belongs to a 'labor group'. i'm judging it on its behavior -- tabloid sensationalism, HiPointDem Aug 2012 #139

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #84

I wish I could unrec. nt. polly7 Aug 2012 #100

The US National Defense Authorization Act is not a conspiracy theory. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #104

I wouldn't be surprised if they sent a drone after Assange. Zalatix Aug 2012 #112

Walking into a U.S. trap would be stupidity. cali Aug 2012 #111

Should there be a Romney Attorney General Next year.. cyclezealot Aug 2012 #121

K&R OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #122

He's nuts treestar Aug 2012 #127

And your qualifications to make this diagnosis are? hobbit709 Aug 2012 #132

Common sense treestar Aug 2012 #158

LOL tama Aug 2012 #166

What charges? Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #168

You don't get out much in the real world do you. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #171

Asking the US authorities to "bring it on" Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #163

Look what happens when very powerful people are exposed KansDem Aug 2012 #136

FAIL for transparency of intent Matariki Aug 2012 #137

Fail. Alduin Aug 2012 #144

Assange offered to be questioned by Swedish authorities in the UK yurbud Aug 2012 #150

So what? Assange is wanted for a Swedish criminal process, at a stage that the UK courts have agreed struggle4progress Aug 2012 #155

if you can't win on the issues, turn to petty gossip and personal attacks yurbud Aug 2012 #151

For example: accusing the Swedish women in this case of being extreme feminists or CIA agents. struggle4progress Aug 2012 #178

so...Great Britain suddenly got religion on sex crimes and decided questioning suspects yurbud Aug 2012 #207

Perhaps I missed a point here or there.... djean111 Aug 2012 #152

Disagree. Unrec. Taverner Aug 2012 #157

Are you serious? Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #159

Wow! I wasn't a fan of unrec's. But in this case... This post is deserving of one. 20score Aug 2012 #161

"Santa Assange's country house Christmas" has sad photos showing how Julian has suffered struggle4progress Aug 2012 #179

I think that it is wonderful that kind and compassionate well to do folks, Zorra Aug 2012 #193

Doesn't Julian's suffering just bring tears to your eyes? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #194

Wow. That's like, really, really, sad. Zorra Aug 2012 #196

Yep. You won't see him w/o his shirt...the yellow stripe shows. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #164

The Yellow Stripe? HangOnKids Aug 2012 #200

Another Swedish opinion tama Aug 2012 #165

That ends any possibility of you receiving further attention from me. I hope others also drop you. sibelian Aug 2012 #169

Since many here jump up and down, accusing the Swedish prosecutors of prostituting struggle4progress Aug 2012 #174

Assange is indeed a coward Zorro Aug 2012 #170

^^^This is NOT me!^^^ I am Zorra. With an "A" on the end. The female counterpart of the Zorra Aug 2012 #191

No. Assange is a hero, standing up to Big Brother, War Inc. Octafish Aug 2012 #175

I agree. Overseas Aug 2012 #187

Again? brush Aug 2012 #176

Quelle horreur! An anti-Assange article from a Swedish paper! I fear I may swoon! struggle4progress Aug 2012 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #186

silly H2O Man Aug 2012 #188

To fear extradition to a country that has tossed out habeas corpus is not cowardly. It's sensible. Overseas Aug 2012 #189

He'd be extradited to the US and sent to GITMO or worse if he went to Sweden. Assange is no fool. Erose999 Aug 2012 #208