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In reply to the discussion: Anti-vaxers kill another child [View all]Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)41. Similar results in an Aussie study of the outbreaks there.
The difference seemed linked to the acellular pertussis vaccine losing effectiveness much more quickly than the wholecell vaccine.
And this from a CDC director:
In a media phone call that day, Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the CDCs National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, went over the reason for the 20-year-old switch that may have fueled these rising rates of disease. She said:
Wholecell pertussis vaccines are widely used in many parts of the world. But in the U.S., we have not been using them since 1997 The wholecell pertussis vaccines had a fairly high rate of minor and short-term side effects like fever and pain and swelling at the injection site. Those were fairly common reactions. And the acellular pertussis vaccines have a lower rate of the fever and transient side effects. There were also rare, but serious neurologic adverse reactions, including chronic neurologic problems that occurred among children that recently received wholecell vaccines. Studies have not been consistent about whether the vaccine actually caused those chronic neurologic problems. Yet there was substantial public concern about them and not just in the U.S., but in other countries. That led to a concerted effort to develop a vaccine with an improved safety profile.
Schuchat added:
In young children, we think that within a couple of years of vaccination the Dtap series is 95 percent protection. Five years later after the series, we think it wanes to 70 percent. That going down from 95 percent effectiveness to 70 percent may be why we see this increase in the older children or young teens.
Wholecell pertussis vaccines are widely used in many parts of the world. But in the U.S., we have not been using them since 1997 The wholecell pertussis vaccines had a fairly high rate of minor and short-term side effects like fever and pain and swelling at the injection site. Those were fairly common reactions. And the acellular pertussis vaccines have a lower rate of the fever and transient side effects. There were also rare, but serious neurologic adverse reactions, including chronic neurologic problems that occurred among children that recently received wholecell vaccines. Studies have not been consistent about whether the vaccine actually caused those chronic neurologic problems. Yet there was substantial public concern about them and not just in the U.S., but in other countries. That led to a concerted effort to develop a vaccine with an improved safety profile.
Schuchat added:
In young children, we think that within a couple of years of vaccination the Dtap series is 95 percent protection. Five years later after the series, we think it wanes to 70 percent. That going down from 95 percent effectiveness to 70 percent may be why we see this increase in the older children or young teens.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/08/pertussis-vax-effectiveness/
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The infant could have easily caught the pertussis from a vaccinated child.
FedUpWithIt All
Aug 2012
#1
"The longer you went from your last vaccine, the greater your risk of disease,"
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#4
You sound as hysterical about this as the anti-vaxer do about autism and vaxes.
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#6
I have, as have others and yet you seem stuck in the same mud re: this article.
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#29
the person accusing others of being murderers is telling others to stay classy?
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#56
Hysterical? Really? Holy shit, you need to seek a less stressful message board!
11 Bravo
Aug 2012
#33
What didn't you understand? "majority of cases were in fully vaccinated children"
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#55
It says nothing about it being anti-vax, but that the child was too young for full vax.
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#2
Please point to where in that paragraph, it points to anti-vaxers causing this child's illness?
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#5
Yes, however, most folks are never given boosters, day care workers would be hard pressed
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#17
"Anti vaxxers make me so very angry" Agreed, and they put us all at risk. Its really selfish, IMO.
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#9
It was enough to bring about the reemrgence of nearly eradicated childhood diseases.
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#15
Two years ago. We have a 3year old and my spouse is a public school teacher.
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#34
Rejecting science in favor of superstition must have one heck of an evolutionary advantage
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#24
This kind of reasonable thought is unacceptable. First, it removes an issue as a candidate for
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#52
The majority of those getting sick are up-to-date with their immunizations, which kind of goes
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#54