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Ms. Toad

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Thu Jan 31, 2019, 06:37 PM Jan 2019

A place Harris will need to grow (or, I hope, already has) [View all]

History as a prosecutor: jailing and fining the parents of children with excessive absences

Here we see the limits of the “prosecutorial mindset”. Like the old slogan “when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail,” when all you have is the ability to bring criminal charges, everything looks like a crime.

Harris looked at the problem of perpetual truancy and believed she ought to start locking up parents. A humane progressive looks at the problem and asks: why do absences actually occur? Truancy occurs disproportionately among children whose parents are poor and less-educated, and among children who don’t feel safe at school, who have to work or support their families, who have mental and physical health issues, and who are in unstable living situations.

Given the social reality, the idea of fining or jailing parents over student absences is both cruel and unwise. It targets the poorest and most desperate parents, and it doesn’t actually address the root causes.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/31/kamala-harris-laughed-jailing-parents-truancy

Does anyone know what Harris's position currently is - and whether she has renounced her prior position/actions?

(A quick search suggests her position has not changed - which I find troubling)
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Yes, I find it very troubling, but also the fact that she seemed actually giddy with joy about it. vsrazdem Jan 2019 #1
I'm willing to put the giddiness on the tape down to politics Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #4
Another misleading hit piece.. Callado119 Jan 2019 #2
The article is based on her own words and policy decisions Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #3
I'm sure only white wealthy San Franciscans were jailed and fined. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #5
I'm sure you'll be relieved to hear that no SF parents were. ehrnst Feb 2019 #10
Nonsense Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #23
Can you cite where she campaigned for the Truancy law? ehrnst Feb 2019 #11
Here you go Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #12
Thank you. I understand she jailed no parents, and waived any fines if they ehrnst Feb 2019 #13
Sam Seder's thoughts with the video. aidbo Jan 2019 #6
Thank you - Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #7
You're welcome, of course. Left is best! aidbo Jan 2019 #8
No parents were jailed. in every case, she cut a deal, and waived the fine. ehrnst Feb 2019 #9
Honestly I'm glad the truancy issues are being addressed nini Feb 2019 #14
Arresting and charging a homeless mom of 3 who is working 2 jobs to make ends meet Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #21
There's a difference between unexcused and excused absences nini Feb 2019 #22
Sometimes truancy happens because a parent doesn't give a damn dsc Feb 2019 #15
And because the accusations have been about her "building a career on jailing black parents" ehrnst Feb 2019 #16
And she also arrested a homeless mother of three, working two full-time jobs Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #17
she threatened the first with jail dsc Feb 2019 #18
These are the circumstances: ehrnst Feb 2019 #24
This is a great lesson in why we need to study Montesquieu and limited government Bucky Feb 2019 #19
Perfectly stated. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #20
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