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In reply to the discussion: Anti-vaxers kill another child [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)48. So we could resolve this by lying?
The problem is, doctors and researchers refuse to admit that YES, in some cases, a child might die from a vaccine.
False. The adverse reaction rate is published. It's also a requirement for FDA approval. And at least in the only sample I have (our daughter) they explicitly tell us what to look for in an adverse reaction and a normal reaction. And then they hand us a sheet reiterating what the vaccine does, what reaction to expect and what to watch for an adverse reaction.
Now, it's quite possible you're talking about doctors who aren't good at being doctors. But the problem isn't the vaccines.
And YES, in some cases, a certain segment of children might develop autism as a result of certain vaccines
So we should just outright lie now? There are exactly 0 known cases of vaccine-induced autism. If you want to prove vaccines cause autism, there's a Nobel prize waiting for your successful research.
from what I've read, it's children with pre-existing conditions, such as mitochondrial defects?
I don't recommend reading anti-vax sites for scientific information. Because they don't have any. You'll note they've moved on to "mitochondrial defects" now that Mercury as the cause is quite impossible.
Wouldn't it be so much better to admit those things, and then allow testing for the pre-existing conditions to put parents' minds at ease?
No, because you are "admitting" something that is not true.
Oh, and before you ask, the reason the number of autism diagnoses is skyrocketing is the number of conditions that are now labeled autism. We're up a child who's "shy" is autistic. Couple that with increased awareness and suddenly there's tons of autistic kids.
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The infant could have easily caught the pertussis from a vaccinated child.
FedUpWithIt All
Aug 2012
#1
"The longer you went from your last vaccine, the greater your risk of disease,"
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#4
You sound as hysterical about this as the anti-vaxer do about autism and vaxes.
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#6
I have, as have others and yet you seem stuck in the same mud re: this article.
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#29
the person accusing others of being murderers is telling others to stay classy?
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#56
Hysterical? Really? Holy shit, you need to seek a less stressful message board!
11 Bravo
Aug 2012
#33
What didn't you understand? "majority of cases were in fully vaccinated children"
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#55
It says nothing about it being anti-vax, but that the child was too young for full vax.
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#2
Please point to where in that paragraph, it points to anti-vaxers causing this child's illness?
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#5
Yes, however, most folks are never given boosters, day care workers would be hard pressed
Lionessa
Aug 2012
#17
"Anti vaxxers make me so very angry" Agreed, and they put us all at risk. Its really selfish, IMO.
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#9
It was enough to bring about the reemrgence of nearly eradicated childhood diseases.
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#15
Two years ago. We have a 3year old and my spouse is a public school teacher.
cleanhippie
Aug 2012
#34
Rejecting science in favor of superstition must have one heck of an evolutionary advantage
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#24
This kind of reasonable thought is unacceptable. First, it removes an issue as a candidate for
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#52
The majority of those getting sick are up-to-date with their immunizations, which kind of goes
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#54