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In reply to the discussion: Can someone explain to me what Julian Assange has been charged with in the US [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)There are treaties and EU matters. I'm certainly not one to know what their laws are over there. There is a warrant of some kind, AFAIK. Odd to have one without charges, but, it's Europe. Sweden kicked this to the UK who has signed a treaty. Not because of Assange, it wasn't invented for him.
I'm not sure why the UK says he skipped bail and they want to take him in. There was a fund drive, remember? So Assange and his attorneys certainly screwed the UK on that one, I guess.
On what charges? Do people in Europe make bail over not volunteering to talk? I admit being confused as I only know a bit about American law, that applies on our shores, between our own citizens. You have to be arraigned to post bail. And the charges are WHAT in the UK?
Right now this drama is playing out and we don't know if it's about Assange or Wikileaks, but the latter is important to the public, not Julian. The world wants the dirty laundry exposed, in hope of that knowledge leading to.. Not sure what they expect... a New Age?
The USA could charge him because of the Bradley Manning matter. If Assange HIMSELF can be proven responsible. It's possible that Manning is counting on Assange or Wikileaks to help his case. I truly hate what has happened to Manning.
But is it about Assange? Wikileaks, like Anonymous, has no CEO, no owner. It's a lof connections on the world wide web. It's ten times worse than a corporation as far as proving who is in control. They are not incorporated, AFAIK.
Corporations are arranged to do good and bad things for the owners, share holders, employees whatever. Is there a profit being made by Wikileaks? They aren't chartered anywhere, are they?
They don't even own a web address, they go around the world and move their data. They don't even own their servers but they are allowed to operate on servers in different countries. That is the closest they come to a physical address.
Just what is this thing, a group of whistle blowers, journalists who have been brushed off by corporate media? Those voices must be heard to give us the information we need to change our lives.
There is the money angle, the BofA issue on another thread. That's really sexy, sure enough, the favorite villains of the day, the 'banksters.' When we look for them, those who talk about it go back centuries and I won't even say the names of who they say is responsible because it's all CT. The secret villains who run the world and always have, etc.
I'd really like the USA to come out and make an official statement. We have not had any at all. Just people popping off, people close to the case, and Assange saying the UK and USA are out to get him for what appears to be public relations, not a real cause.
This may get settled in a few weeks as this story continues. It may drag out for years. I wonder what we're missing while we follow it. We've got the GOP and the Christian Nationalists taking over state after state and all eyes are on London.